NTSC-J Xbox 360 owner's manual

[bcass]

Mamorukun is 1.39GB. You can ascertain the size of any XBLA title by going to its Marketplace download page. You should also note that those sizes do not include DLC sizes. Again, these can be ascertained from the Marketplace download pages.

[dieKatze88]

Adding:

- Do I need to upgrade my HDD? Will all the shmups fit on a HDD of x size?

As of September 2010, these are the sizes of installed 360 shmups, from smallest to largest (under construction):

Raiden IV: 378 MB
Raiden Fighters Aces: 477 MB
ESPGaluda II: 659 MB
Ketsui Kizunajigokutachi Extra: 848 MB
Mushihimesama Futari: 1100 MB
DeathSmiles II X: 1200 MB
Shikigami no Shiro III: 1400 MB
Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label Extra: 2300 MB
Shooting Love 200X: 3000 MB
DeathSmiles: 3100 MB
Otomedius G: 3500 MB

Total: 17,962 MB (17.9 GB). A 20 GB is only around 13400 MB (13.4 GB), so in order to install all shmups, a larger HDD would be required. This list doesn't include XBLA titles.


If anyone can add to this list, feel free. I've only added the games which I own. I still need sizes for Mamorukun, Senko and Senko DUO, Strike Witches and uh.. most XBLA titles, I guess.

That Otomedius size seems low to me. I'll check it later

I also have all the Otomedius DLC, so I can give you the sizing on that.

[bcass]

I also have all the Otomedius DLC

You have our deepest sympathies.

[dieKatze88]

I also have all the Otomedius DLC

You have our deepest sympathies.

haha. You're funny. I actually like that game.

[njiska]

I also have all the Otomedius DLC

You have our deepest sympathies.

haha. You're funny. I actually like that game.

Yeah but paying the price for that DLC had to hurt didn't it?

[dieKatze88]

Yeah but paying the price for that DLC had to hurt didn't it?

Actually I used Amazon.jp and a friend to get the cards at a slight discount price, so it wasn't much worse than it would have been if I had done it with US points.

Amazon.jp sells the like, 5000 yen cards for something like 3800 to 4200 on average (it varies week to week, kinda like the US 50 dollar card drifts between 35 and 42 dollars week to week)

It wasn't TOO bad that way. only about 110 USD in total. The large investment was the controller.

Edit:
The compression on installing games is better than I thought. I know Otomedius G comes across as 6gb or so as an ISO file (Ive been working on tearing the game apart)

Otomedius Gorgeous (Installed 360 Game) - 3.3gb

Saved Games:
I have an 884kb Saved game
I have a 3mb Saved game
I have a 192kb Saved game.
I can't read Japanese, so I'll take a picture later.

Marketplace Content:
School Girl Versions of the girls - 12 mb
Anoa Music pack - 210 mb
Eurl Music pack - 165 mb
Emon 5 Music pack - 235 mb
Madoka Music Pack - 164 mb
Diol Music Pack - 200 mb
Tita Music Pack - 216 mb
Esmeralda + Poini Music Pack - 207 mb
Esmeralda + Poini Coon (Listed Together, don't know why) - 52 mb
Update for Arcade Otomedius to GGG:J:A:A:2008041801 (Which if my Otomedius kit is to be believed, is the latest version of the software) - 36 mb
Moai Head Stage - 47 mb

The Xbox says a total of 4.8gb for the whole mess.

[Elixir]

Oh, so it is 3.3gb. I guess it rounds up to the nearest hundred if you have any DLC slightly over 100mb.

[nZero]

I'm getting different sizes for installed games than you, in some cases by quite a bit. Without DLC, Deathsmiles is only 2.0GB and Futari is only 815MB (plus any save files & replays)

[brentsg]

Honestly I don't see why the size of installed games is that important. It doesn't seem worth the bother to post.

[dieKatze88]

Honestly I don't see why the size of installed games is that important. It doesn't seem worth the bother to post.

its good for games like Otomedius Gorgeous which load pathetically slow from DVD and way too fast from Hard Disk.

[emphatic]

If the install size differs from different users by that much, it must be because of dashboard version differences, right? It can't be some stupid game save data for different accounts?

[Rupert H]

Yeah, the new dashboard as of around eight months ago (?) drastically reduced game install sizes. If you're finding your install is too big just delete it and re-install with the new dash.

[brentsg]

Honestly I don't see why the size of installed games is that important. It doesn't seem worth the bother to post.

its good for games like Otomedius Gorgeous which load pathetically slow from DVD and way too fast from Hard Disk.

I understand why installing games to the hard drive is important.

I do not understand why compiling a list of their respective install sizes on a fansite is important. It seems like busy work to me.

[PsychoGun]

most of the cave 360 shmups are tiny under the newest dash. And raiden 4 and aces are like under 500mb each. the biggest install i've seen is shooting love, it's near 4 gigs, no fucking clue why.

i have every 360 shmup I own installed on a 16gb flash drive, just keep the DLC on your HDD and you're good to go with a shit load of installs.

[dieKatze88]

Honestly I don't see why the size of installed games is that important. It doesn't seem worth the bother to post.

its good for games like Otomedius Gorgeous which load pathetically slow from DVD and way too fast from Hard Disk.

I understand why installing games to the hard drive is important.

I do not understand why compiling a list of their respective install sizes on a fansite is important. It seems like busy work to me.

Well, it depends on what you want to do with your 360. If you're out to play EVERY single game, then a single 16gb flash drive or 20gb hard disk is going to be cutting it close, especially with the release of Otomedius Excellent looming which I'm sure Konami will find SOME WAY to make it the full 8.5 GB of a dual layer DVD. Having this list will better let people plan what they do for storage on the Xbox 360, especially if they have an older unit and are planning on upgrading to a newer unit (like I am) which has a whole new hard disk bay, and isn't really compatible with older drives.

[Elixir]

These should be correct:

- Raiden IV: 377 MB
- Raiden Fighters Aces: 477 MB
- ESPGaluda II: 657 MB
- Ketsui Kizunajigokutachi Extra: 846 MB
- Mushihimesama Futari: 815 MB
- DeathSmiles II X: 1200 MB
- Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta: 1390 MB
- Shikigami no Shiro III: 1400 MB
- Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label Extra: 2300 MB
- Shooting Love 200X: 3000 MB
- DeathSmiles: 2000 MB
- Otomedius G: 3300 MB

Total: 17,762 MB (17.7 GB).

All tate'd shmups total 11,262 MB.

Anyone have Strike Witches?

[bad-joey]

Just got my ntsc-j 360 from Play-Asia. (yay!) This has probably been said before, but the powersupply has an UK plug on it. I'm from mainland Europe, so I just bought a plug adapter and it works perfect. I have the asia version btw.

[Elixir]

In the meantime, I'm going to try and get someone in Japan to buy a GoD title using my Japanese account, then I'm going to try the redownload option back in my country to see if that method works.

So what became of this?

[bcass]

Nothing. I ended-up not needing to do it as I got the proxies working.

[E. Randy Dupre]

Just a heads-up, but my Japanese machine died about ten minutes ago - the GPU's packed up, the screen's a mess of blurred patches, low res patches and pink blotches. It worked for about thirty seconds after I turned it off and on again, then the same thing happened once more. I bought it at the same time that Raiden Fighters Aces came out, so about two and a half years ago, and it hadn't been used half as much as my (also dead) PAL unit.

This was supposedly the more reliable hardware revision...

[Elixir]

Since the last time I checked account registration was over a year ago, I thought I'd do it again. Damn, I have like, 20 accounts now, haha.

Anyway, the new Japanese account registration method is below.

Updated 3/10/10

Account registration is now even easier.

From the "My Xbox" column, select "System Settings"
Select "Console Settings"
Select "Language and Locale"
Change the "Locale" to "Japan"
Change the "Language" to whatever
Exit out of this, move to Game Marketplace
Press A, choose Yes, and the account creation process will start (net connection required)
Choose "Sign me up"
Enter your e-mail address
Enter your password, twice
Choose whether to save your password
Choose a secret question and answer (can be anything)
Enter your date of birth (can be anything, but a birthdate over 18 is recommended)
The "Verify Information" page will come up, if everything is correct, continue
Terms of Service will be in Japanese, hit Accept
Another page, hit Continue
A "Gold Subscription" page will appear, choose "I don't want a Gold membership."
It will say "You're eligible for (and in Japanese): 1 month of free Xbox Live Gold.
Hit "Continue"
It will now ask you to add credit card information, choose "No, add it later"
--- (unless you want to try your credit card)
Enter your last name, first name, and phone number. They can be anything
Next page is the partnership page, if you wish to opt out entirely, just hit Continue.
Choose Gamerzone
Next page should show your email, birth date, 1 month of Gold (in Japanese) along with partnership choices
Hit "Continue"
Choose a gamertag. This is permanent and will cost 800 MS points in order to change again, so be mindful of what you choose.
After signing up, choose an avatar.
--- If you don't want an avatar, press the 360 button on your controller, then Y, then choose "Yes".

Congratulations on your new JP account! If the Marketplace is showing things in Japanese like ゲームマーケットプレイス, your account is Japanese.

[dieKatze88]

The new dashboard update is out and here's some things:

Either the rounding mechanism changed or installed games got a little bigger. Otomedius Gorgeous grew to 3400mb (not a big change) but overall the dashboard is much faster. I'm wondering if the change in size in Otomedius will reflect a change in performance (I haven't tested yet)

In other news, Otomedius Gorgeous is now a Games On Demand title and is available for 2600 Yen. It's posted that way on Xbox.com, I don't know what the cost in MSP is, although I'm sure it's not great.

It's also 200mb smaller than the installed game version.

There's one really big change. The browse alphabetically option in the Game Marketplace has changed so all the various characters are now laid out in one large horizontal line. This can be tough if you had memorized where certain things are. It certainly does not help the barrier to entry for Xbox 360 importing.

Overall the software is a SHITLOAD faster. That half a second of delay where the Xbox would waste your time when you were doing anything appears to be gone.

[emphatic]

The new dashboard update is out

Cheers!

[drunkninja24]

Sorry if this question had been answered already, tried browsing through the thread but couldn't find a direct answer.

I'm considering picking up a new J360 that isn't banned from Live like my current one is (mainly cause I want to be able to download the DFK 1.51 mode and get the DOJ patch if it ever sees the light of day). Anyway, are XBLA games region-coded at all? I'm thinking of transferring all my stuff from my current NA console to the new one and using it to play most of my stuff with (still planning on keeping my NA system for some games that are locked to NA). It sounds like all I would need to do is make sure I'm logged into my US account when I play my XBLA stuff, but I want to make sure.

[moozooh]

As far as I understand, they are not region-locked, but not all of them are available on every marketplace. It's a matter of having the right account, which is not a huge problem at all.

[DarthBoMan]

Hey shmupers,

Need some help here... Got an ASIA 360 with a Japanese LIVE-account (as well as a Swedish and a Hong Kong-account). As far as I understand, the points are region locked so I bought japanese points from Play Asia.

But when I try to redeem the code using the Japanese account all I get is a message that the code is invalid?

Any pointers as to what I have done wrong would be appreciated.

Cheers!

EDIT - Apparently Play Asia sent me a faulty code. Got a new one and will try again tonight.

[Elixir]

Huge update. Adjusted the layout drastically, added links for all shmups, added links for direct download of Japanese Microsoft Points, and also realized that the Japanese Xbox chart from Xbox.com has been scrapped. I guess Microsoft think most Japanese with Xbox 360s don't care about original Xbox titles.

[drunkninja24]

Okay, still looking around at what's available. It seems I can find Asian consoles for a bit less money, but I would need a step-up converter for the power supply (110-220V). Does anyone know what type of power sockets the Asian 360 models use on their power cords?

[StarCreator]

If you don't want to deal with the step-up converter (and depending on the input tolerance of the Asian brick, you might not have to), you can use an American power brick as long as it isn't for a newer hardware revision.

[njiska]

Okay, still looking around at what's available. It seems I can find Asian consoles for a bit less money, but I would need a step-up converter for the power supply (110-220V). Does anyone know what type of power sockets the Asian 360 models use on their power cords?

Then check this shit out http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907635

The PSU has the same basic design in all countries. However, the unit is smaller in countries that use 110-volt electricity.

* The 110-127V power supply measures 8.42 x 3.03 x 2.13 inches (approximately 21.4 x 7.7 x 5.4 cm).
* The 220-240V power supply measures 8.62 x 3.03 x 2.13 inches (approximately 21.9 x 7.7 x 5.4 cm).

The PSU should be 220-240V as all countries in the Asia region use that standard apart from Taiwan (see table). So you'll either need a converter or you'll need a 100-127V PSU. Asia appears to have a mix of cables. If it's sold in Hong Kong they should be Type D. I think.