I'm sick of seeing games with guns and bald space marines!!

[neorichieb1971]

Perhaps, as a co worker as already told me.. Get a Wii. The problem is, everytime I've played a Wii the controller put me off and the games to my mind were abysmal. Although I would state the obvious that they are all waggle and mini games. 480p puts me off as well. I really want to play the latest marios. I want a 1080p update damn it.

[Obiwanshinobi]

480p puts me off as well. I really want to play the latest marios. I want a 1080p update damn it.

Don't you just need a CRT SDTV? If so, get yourself one while they're still around. I'm not joking. The screenshots of Rune Factory Frontier I saw looked better to me than most stuff on so called HD consoles, but I wouldn't expect it to look that hot on an LCD. Do the lightgun games on Wii even work with an LCD and actual lightgun?

[Acid King]

The problem is, everytime I've played a Wii the controller put me off and the games to my mind were abysmal. .

The new classic controllers are pretty swell.

[dcharlie]

Do the lightgun games on Wii even work with an LCD and actual lightgun?

yes, because the light gun games on wii still use the controller so it's still using the IR sensor.

House of the Dead Overkill is pretty good too!

[EPS21]

I'm gonna admit, I'm enjoying a game that features bald space marines very much right now; Starcraft II

That guy sure is featured a lot in the menus and crap. you'd never know it in game though being zoomed out so far

[sjewkestheloon]

Yawn.

Plenty of games out there without. Just play those instead.

It's like people complaining about bad chart RNB, simple answer is to not listen to the fucking chart show.

[Ed Oscuro]

Update to thread idea:

I'm sick of seeing single player games turned into multiplayer!

Rargh,even Dino D-Day has fallen prey to this trend.

[Drum]

I think it's a case of be careful what you wish for. Few years ago everybody was saying DEVELOPERS PUT CO-OP IN YOUR GAMES. I was excited about it because it seemed like it would be a return to co-op games like in arcades - a new co-op renaissance. Now it's all NOT LIKE THAT YOU'RE RUINING SINGLEPLAYER. Halo/Gears on the westside and Monster Hunter on the eastside have a lot to answer for.
I still like the idea of co-op but I guess I'd prefer it in 'dinky' pick-up-and-play games like Bubble Bobble/bmups/run n guns etc.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Online co-op works like a charm in the likes of Diablo. On consoles the original BG: Dark Alliance got the local co-op right. By the way, the ladies tend to enjoy this kind of co-op.

[Octopod]

I much prefer space marines to shit anime.

[Drum]

Online co-op works like a charm in the likes of Diablo. On consoles the original BG: Dark Alliance got the local co-op right. By the way, the ladies tend to enjoy this kind of co-op.

I really can't stand Diablo - I just think everything about it is terrible and I can't see why anybody likes it. Costume Quest is an online co-op game coming out soon that looks rad, I will be getting that (unless it sucks).

[Ed Oscuro]

I think it's a case of be careful what you wish for. Few years ago everybody was saying DEVELOPERS PUT CO-OP IN YOUR GAMES. I was excited about it because it seemed like it would be a return to co-op games like in arcades - a new co-op renaissance. Now it's all NOT LIKE THAT YOU'RE RUINING SINGLEPLAYER. Halo/Gears on the westside and Monster Hunter on the eastside have a lot to answer for.
I still like the idea of co-op but I guess I'd prefer it in 'dinky' pick-up-and-play games like Bubble Bobble/bmups/run n guns etc.

True point, but I meant straight MP. The call for straight multiplayer came a looong time ago. If there were more co-op games I'd be fine...a lot of it is that developers go "ehh we can't make a singleplayer episode anymore, too expensive"

[Obiwanshinobi]

I really can't stand Diablo - I just think everything about it is terrible and I can't see why anybody likes it.

The music.

[drauch]

Online co-op works like a charm in the likes of Diablo. On consoles the original BG: Dark Alliance got the local co-op right. By the way, the ladies tend to enjoy this kind of co-op.

I really can't stand Diablo - I just think everything about it is terrible and I can't see why anybody likes it. Costume Quest is an online co-op game coming out soon that looks rad, I will be getting that (unless it sucks).

Whoa whoa WHOA. I don't understand. I mean, I could understand simply not liking the Diablo series, but to say it is terrible and not being able to understand why people like it is beyond words. The dark fantasy storyline is fantastic; the voice acting is superb, as is the CGI movies; the gameplay is extremely customizable and addictive; the game plays excellent; on-line support and multiplayer is phenomenal; I could go on and on. If we're talking D2 here, it's been played for 10 years and still has an excellent on-line community. That's pretty awesome, if you ask me. And yeah, the music is great.

[Drum]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybBe5gEvZXY

The worst boss fight ever made. Just a big damage sponge that can keep pace with you, and the secret to beating him (the only way, really) is to ... exploit the AI so it's just how clear to the player how bad it is? Or, if you chose a different character, stand in place and alternate between clicking the potion button and hacking at him for ten minutes. Laughable.

[Obiwanshinobi]

I fail to be amused.

[Drum]

Well, terrible ... however you want to put it. That is objectively lousy game design and I hope like hell nobody is going to step up and defend it. The rest of the game I just found tedious and unpleasant, but not outright bad (I know what I said earlier, shush). I love Nethack and Spelunky, fwiw. I am going to drop this now - no troll - but damn.

[Obiwanshinobi]

None of my encounters with Butcher (as a Warrior indeed) looked like that by the way (or lasted this long while we're at it). In 1.00 singleplayer he was piss easy. Recently I fought him in co-op (that's what Diablo is all about for me these days) and used to twat the likes of him with a hefty firewall. Exploiting the AI in this game is fun, and the co-op is downright mesmerising (provided you play it in a good company).
The Butcher was all talk if you ask me. Certainly not the selling point of the game.

That is objectively lousy game design and I hope like hell nobody is going to step up and defend it.

Um, you don't even HAVE to fight him. Diablo being randomised, sometimes you encounter rampant difficulty spikes, but there's always workaround available. Like, "move on and come back later". I'm not defending that bossfight as such (masterpiece of game design it was not), but don't recall it being that much pain either.

[Ed Oscuro]

I stopped off in the original Diablo, as a ranger, after meeting some succubi. Ranged shit = boned.

I didn't meet The Butcher but I remember somebody saying it was one of the most memorable boss appearances they could think of. Quite apart from game design, but that counts for something.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Oh, the Butcher was memorable. His room alone was particulary graphic for its time (before Sanitarium, Silent Hill and all that). There was just nothing refined about him, gameplay-wise.
To unlock The Butcher, as well as some other quests, you need to talk to the townsfolk.

[Ed Oscuro]

To unlock The Butcher, as well as some other quests, you need to talk to the townsfolk.

I didn't get that far

Wonder if I still have the save hiding somewhere. And your post reminds me that I ought to play Sanitarium sometime...not especially wanting to open a new copy though

[drauch]

Oh, the Butcher was memorable. His room alone was particulary graphic for its time (before Sanitarium, Silent Hill and all that). There was just nothing refined about him, gameplay-wise.
To unlock The Butcher, as well as some other quests, you need to talk to the townsfolk.

Aye, yeah I loved the Butcher. Very memorable and graphic indeed! I can't watch that video because my internet is too terrible. No point in arguing, but I think the Diablo series is fantastic.

[ROBOTRON]

Better bald that those fagots in the NFL with their stupid sissy braids.

[CMoon]

Update to thread idea:

I'm sick of seeing single player games turned into multiplayer!

QFT

For instance, people are crying out for Vanquish to be multiplayer. Really, STFU.

[Khan]

I think it's a case of be careful what you wish for. Few years ago everybody was saying DEVELOPERS PUT CO-OP IN YOUR GAMES. I was excited about it because it seemed like it would be a return to co-op games like in arcades - a new co-op renaissance. Now it's all NOT LIKE THAT YOU'RE RUINING SINGLEPLAYER. Halo/Gears on the westside and Monster Hunter on the eastside have a lot to answer for.
I still like the idea of co-op but I guess I'd prefer it in 'dinky' pick-up-and-play games like Bubble Bobble/bmups/run n guns etc.

Totally agree, I think the main reason why co-op imo was needed was because of the lack of true 2d beat em ups this genre or two atleast it feels that way for me, I mean we had streets of rage 2 and castle crashers+ttmnt on xbox Live but alot more is needed instead of old games we need devs and publishers with balls who will shift their focus into the brawler genre and give us a serious dose of "beating up the bad guys with your friends" syndrome.

The most fun ive ever had in a game was getting toghether with my brother/sister and playing a brawler till the early morning...........good times.

Now im stuck playing fps games because they have co-op multi and in the process ive met 80% total jerks and 10% who are good objective players who rarely play anymore then 10% who play and who have my gun by their side anytime they wish.