Checked out the sci-fi masterpiece that is Inception?

[Skykid]

DiCaprio delivered in that role.

There's nothing wrong with DiCaprio, he can act, he's just a bit limited in range. But a lot of actors are always the same, even some that are really good (like Nicholson and DeNiro.)

Never sure why DiCaprio gets such a bad rap, I've never seen him give a piss poor performance.

[NOAH]

Haven't seen "Inception" yet, but "Memento" was incredible. The Batman flicks were okay, I really was only interested in them because of Nolan's name. Since seeing "Memento" long ago I've been interested in seeing anything Nolan makes, kinda like my interest in Fernando Meirelles after watching "City of God".

[CMoon]

Inception definitely has a thematic connection to Memento, while production wise it is similar to TDK.

[RGC]

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[emphatic]

DeCaprio was awesome in Basketball Diaries. Heartbreaking performance. He's also great in Woody Allen's Celebrity. I mean, it's not like he's limited like Nic Cage.

[1up]

avoided this topic till I saw the movie. I went yesterday and I loved it. I dont really think it was that difficult to comprehend, but it left itself open to conversation afterwards.

Like the last scene... *Spoilers ahead*






The top, did it keep spinning or did it drop?
I believe that all of it (the whole movie) was Cobb dreaming. Why? Because his 'token' was not his. It was Mals'. He did not know the 'weight' of it, and with being so paranoid about being awake or not, and believing that 'his' top layer, was where he was awake, that might make his subconcious convinced that this was the reality and make the top fall over.

the top at the end was a cheap trick to get people talking. They did the same thing in xmen 3 with the chess piece

[Skykid]

But even Matt Damon was a geezer in Departed!

Nah man, he couldn't get it up.

Honestly though, I don't think much to Matt Damon. Not really an actor as such.

[boagman]

Saw it tonight for the second time, and it was *still* fantastic. To the naysayers: I have no idea what would please you, but if you can't respect a film this good, you're either just too hard to please, too self-important, or both. Get over yourselves.

And BTW, I paid full price both times. Totally worth it.

[Warp_Rattler]

SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER (as if you'd have read this far if you hadn't seen the movie).

The top, did it keep spinning or did it drop?
I believe that all of it (the whole movie) was Cobb dreaming. Why? Because his 'token' was not his. It was Mals'. He did not know the 'weight' of it, and with being so paranoid about being awake or not, and believing that 'his' top layer, was where he was awake, that might make his subconcious convinced that this was the reality and make the top fall over.

the top at the end was a cheap trick to get people talking. They did the same thing in xmen 3 with the chess piece

I don't really think the top was a cheap trick at all. X-Men 3, yes, because it was basically "Just so you know, we're totally making a sequel, okay?" I think Inception's ending was a bit more solid--it's definitely something you can interpret within the scope of the film itself, and not just one of those stoned, "Whoa, man, what if..." sort of discussion points.

I've seen a few different places on the Internet where people mentioned the top as an indication he was dreaming the whole time (the entire film), but I couldn't really find the textual support to back that idea up--especially if you start suggesting that the subconscious alters a dream's reality in a way other than by populating it with dream people.

I think he's still dreaming, and here's why: In the first half of the film, every time he wakes up from a dream, he spins the top, and the top falls down. The last time we see him spin the top is after waking up from testing out the compound that Yusef formulates. Cobb is in the bathroom, splashing water on his face, he goes to spin the top and is interrupted by Saito. He drops it. That's the last time we see him attempt to verify his reality, and he is unable to do so.
And why are his kids, at the end, still about the same ages and in the same position outside when he comes to greet them? (To be fair, this might not be significant; my friend noted that IMDB has two sets of kids, of different ages, playing Cobb's children, so maybe I wasn't paying as close attention as I thought).
Also, in the first half of the film, he's so desperate to always see the outcome of the spin, but in the end the top is almost an afterthought. My take was that he just didn't care anymore--he'd come to a sort of closure with his wife and was at a place where he could finally see his kids again. Whether that place was a dream or reality didn't seem to matter.

I suppose that's why I think so highly of the film. I thought Cobb and his struggles created an excellent character, and it was rewarding to see a resolution for him at the end. But even on my first viewing I doubted that resolution was the real thing, but found myself wondering if it even mattered as long as the character was in a place where he finally had some peace. I think that's the mark of a good story, (film or literature) when some aspect of the narrative gives you something to consider when you're finished.

[CMoon]

The top isn't cobb's totem.

Edit: Hasn't that bitch Skykid seen this movie yet. He needs to sit his ass down in a theatre and watch this shit.

[Skykid]

Edit: Hasn't that bitch Skykid seen this movie yet. He needs to sit his ass down in a theatre and watch this shit.

Yo fool! Why do you keep bringing me back into this thread?

You better quit pushing me or I might actually go and watch it just so I can tear it to pieces and make a mockery of people who confuse overly complicated precocious Hollywood drivel as some kind of new wave artistic breakthrough.

I can already tell you from the trailer Leo DiCaprio is too fucking fat for his role and the kid from 3rd Rock From the Sun is too embarrassingly miscast to be credible - how's that for a start?

[Warp_Rattler]

The top isn't cobb's totem.

It is after he takes it from the trashed hotel room. The totems aren't imbued with magical properties, they're just physical items only the owner is supposed to be able to tell from a fake. The danger of sharing is that you could become trapped in a dream/the subconscious of another person who knows the properties of the item as well. This is probably not an issue if the other person is dead.

[CMoon]

The top isn't cobb's totem.

It is after he takes it from the trashed hotel room. The totems aren't imbued with magical properties, they're just physical items only the owner is supposed to be able to tell from a fake. The danger of sharing is that you could become trapped in a dream/the subconscious of another person who knows the properties of the item as well. This is probably not an issue if the other person is dead.

Cobb's totem is his kids faces (well, maybe...) and that's why when he sees them at the end, he knows it isn't a dream.

[CMoon]

Leo DiCaprio is too fucking fat for his role

This is the major problem with the film. All of the special effects have to be worked around how fucking fat Decaprio is.

[TLB]

Why Cobb is not as old as Saito is not something I completely understand. I think it has something to do with how self-awareness (This is a dream, not reality.)

I suspect that since it is a dream, the dreamer must have some choice as to how they perceive themselves. I say this because we always see Cobb and Mal in limbo as young except in one scene that shows them as old. The scene suggested to me that while they had effectively been in limbo for decades, they did not see themselves as old, so in the other scenes, they always perceive themselves as young.

If that's the case, then whatever age Saito and Cobb appear later on is pretty much up to the dreamer.

C'MON GUISE.


I'M GETTIN' READY TO SPOIL SOME SHIT BE READY FOR THIS






We all have to be so pro about movies but we can't realize that saito was dead for like five minutes before leo da lion followed him down??? srsly guise??? recall that time goes fucking insane every level you go down, so saito had been down there for like fuckin' ever and shit.



that said, i dunno whether leo's still asleep. really couldn't say for sure. leo uses the trick of "HOW DID U GET HERE?! U DONT REMEMBER CUS UR DREAMING LOL!!!" on ariadne when he's first showing her shit about dreams and stuff. well, we don't know where half the damn movie comes from by that token, either. so, whatever.

K DONE SPOILIN HAVE FUN GUYS




and do people really find this movie hard to get on your first go? 's really not, especially if your eyes are open. my aunt thought it was shitty afterward, but she fell asleep for at least half of the movie, so she has no idea what's goin' on.

personally, i almost died of adrenaline poisoning, but i didn't think it was all that great. all the characters and drama between them, people getting shot and what have you...well, seemed a little bit too drama-ey for a movie where everyone is fucking asleep, and they know it, lol. definitely worth a watch if you like getting coked up on nature's speed, but...


anyhow, this has been a message from m3tall1ca, the other Tom. (hi skykid!!!! :) :) :) !!!!)

PS drunken starsailor did you get banned from icy's forums and decide to rage over it? you try to act like icy does over random shit and your english fucking blows. you're like a parody of icycalm, lol.

[Skykid]

i didn't think it was all that great.

You go girl!

anyhow, this has been a message from m3tall1ca, the other Tom. (hi skykid!!!! !!!!)

Hi! :waves:

Can you stop being so good at Cyvern btw?

[TLB]

Now that its STGT week is over, I'll probably never play it again :3

As for Xexex, I can't even find a single good replay, so it looks like I'm screwed >_>



hey guys where's inception's superplay, i can't seem to figure out how it scores so high

[Skykid]

hey guys where's inception's superplay, i can't seem to figure out how it scores so high

Ah shit, sorry guys, but that was all win. Had to say it. I'll go now and consider actually watching the movie at some point.

[emphatic]

I'll go now and consider actually watching the movie at some point.

So, can we at least expect that you've actually seen it next time you post here? (this is a trap btw).

[DEL]

I'll save Skykid the trouble. I saw it in the cinema last night and its just another Matrix type film.
7/10 EDIT:-6.8/10
End of story.

[CMoon]

I'll save Skykid the trouble. I saw it in the cinema last night and its just another Matrix type film.
7/10 EDIT:-6.8/10
End of story.

Dude, you can't let Skykid off the hook so easy at this point. He's got a whole summer worth of anti-hype built up. It it's two turds talking it will be better than his expectations. He has to see it at this point!

[DEL]

Well I've gotta agree that you shouldn't post comments about a film before you've actually seen it. So yeah.

Maybe he just loves winding everyone up

As for the movie, the concept is pretty preposterous and the actual Mission is very preposterous. A multi millionnaire would simply kill his competitor, rather than attempt the Mission in this film.

[Skykid]

Well I've gotta agree that you shouldn't post comments about a film before you've actually seen it. So yeah.

Maybe he just loves winding everyone up

I was more critiquing the director than the film. I never made any direct comments about the films content (really) but I have it from reliable sources that it's exactly as I expect, and exactly as DEL found it to be. No surprises.

For some reason this has been built up like I think it's the worst film ever. At this rate I'll probably enjoy it! My biggest problem with the thread from the start is the word 'masterpiece'. Nolan just isn't capable of producing one yet, no matter how good Memento was.

Emph you win.

[DEL]

I have to agree with Skykid about this certainly not being a masterpiece. Its certainly watchable but no masterpiece.

[emphatic]

Emph you win.

*gives DEL a secret high five*

[GaijinPunch]

but I have it from reliable sources that it's exactly as I expect, and exactly as DEL found it to be.

Do you let people taste your food for you too?

[CMoon]

Guys, I just want to give you all a big thumbs up on a job well done.

Now that Inception is, for the most part out of the theaters we can probably let Skykid know that in fact the movie was a super-hot 3 hour porno. And when it wasn't a porno, it was an amazing space shooter film with lasers and gigantic explosions. Basically tits and lasers for three hours strait. I don't know how we kept skykid from seeing the laser-tit masterpiece, especially the 3D IMAX versions, but now he's gonna have to see it on home video.

Again, great job everybody!

[Ed Oscuro]

Edit: Hasn't that bitch Skykid seen this movie yet. He needs to sit his ass down in a theatre and watch this shit.

Yo fool! Why do you keep bringing me back into this thread?

Didn't know there was a Forum option to subscribe to your name being brought up in a thread...

but I have it from reliable sources that it's exactly as I expect, and exactly as DEL found it to be.

Do you let people taste your food for you too?

DEL taco?

Leo DiCaprio is too fucking fat for his role

This is the major problem with the film. All of the special effects have to be worked around how fucking fat Decaprio is.

lol, I almost missed this gem, thanks. Kind of like how LotR almost got ruined by how tall John Rhys-Davies is, hmm?

[linko9]

Finally got around to seeing this film. I really liked it, but there's one problem I can't get over. As Ed said, once you accept the (admittedly silly) ground rules, everything makes sense... except one thing. It's made clear that if you die in the heavily-sedated dream state, you gots to do the limbo. Fair enough. However, how do Leo and Cisco-girl get to limbo? By going into a dream... within the 3rd layer of a dream... which was already stated to be impossible with the tools they were working with (even 3 layers was supposed to be tough). Why do they enter limbo when they go into a 4th dream layer? That is what happened, isn't it? Maybe I'm just retarded and I missed something. I hope that's the case, and someone can fill me in. Very nice film anyway.

I've never really payed much attention to directors before, so I've never noticed the existence of this Nolan chappy before, but I knew this movie had to be done by the same guy that did the Prestige. Very similar atmosphere, etc. I must say I was surprised to learn he did the two recent Batman movies as well.

[DEL]

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