also, I recently read that some professor had a theory why we on earth percieved the universe as expanding. He said that our solar system might be in a black hole. interesting stuff, but I cant find a link to save my life
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http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=324331up wrote:
also, I recently read that some professor had a theory why we on earth percieved the universe as expanding. He said that our solar system might be in a black hole. interesting stuff, but I cant find a link to save my life
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* Gravity - mainly this applies to large animals. Drop a mouse down a mineshaft, and it is stunned. Drop a man, he is broken. Drop a horse, and it will splash. But large crawlies are affected as well - sea scorpions can be bigger than land spiders thanks to the support of water. (Compare also the size of elephants and whales.) The legendary five-foot wide spider probably doesn't exist, considering how slow coconut crabs have to waddle. BTW: Rotten horse corpses are great catapult ammunition when you've got a city to siege.1up wrote:what determines the size of animals, humans etc. here on earth? gravity, size of the planet or something else?
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Or maybe the fact that we've seen about... oh... nothing of the big picture.Everywhere we look at is just dead rocks, but for some reason Earth has perfect conditions for life and a huge variety of it. Seems too contrived to happen by chance.
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Nah, it was alien dna...f*cking slut *cries BP Oil tears*gct wrote:You sure it wasn't robot DNA?
But not actually observed. We have no real clue whether worm holes exist or not.GaijinPunch wrote: worm holes are at least mathematically proven
There is some murmuring in the science community of the return of the Steady State Universe; apparently the idea is picking up in popularity again; though I'll admit the big bang is so thoroughly entrenched in my mind I'm having problems imagining the alternative (actually, both are hard to imagine.)and there was at least one case when space-time itself traveled faster than the speed of light (the first .0000000000000001 or so second after the Big Bang). Now, whether any of that can be manipulated again... not for a while, if ever.
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See, I can't figure this argument out. Just this year, the Craig Venter Institute made their own synthetic bacteria. Now it isn't the same as inventing life from scratch, but we're basically steps away from being able to engineer life the way we want it; and with the versatility of bacteria (IE extremophiles, etc.), the range of what is biologically possible should be well beyond what we've seen in any living plants or animals. This is something -we- can very much imagine right now; it's barely even science fiction.UnscathedFlyingObject wrote:Earth is probably just some kind of giant Zoo created by extraterrestrials for their amusement.
Actually there's Europa (as pointed out earlier), but even Mars looks like it might have once have had conditions suitable for life. Basically you've put the cart before the horse. Life is here, on earth, because the conditions -are- ideal, and like an oasis in the desert, these conditions are rare should be statistically common enough we find them elsewhere. Time is also an issue; it's worth noting that for a good chunk of earth's history it was not ideal for organisms like us.Everywhere we look at is just dead rocks, but for some reason Earth has perfect conditions for life and a huge variety of it. Seems too contrived to happen by chance.
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Eugenics: you know it's right!
Well I can only guess what scope you are thinking of here, but I was referring to the alteration of the atmosphere by the earliest cyanobacteria, changing the concentration of gases to include a large amount of oxygen through photosynthesis.UnscathedFlyingObject wrote:So how did Earth became habitable?
This begs the question though: Where did the aliens come from? Who terraformed their planet and put them there?It makes sense that aliens terraformed Earth and populated it with all sorts of living things.
SHMUP sale page.Randorama wrote:ban CMoon for being a closet Jerry Falwell cockmonster/Ann Coulter fan, Nijska a bronie (ack! The horror!), and Ed Oscuro being unable to post 100-word arguments without writing 3-pages posts.
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Dude. A hot robotic ass needs ventilation. Given that metal absorbs and conducts heat, exhausts are a necessity.Jockel wrote:If that jacket is made out of solid metal, i'd say it's highly impractical.
And what does the grill on her ass mean? Does she let out robot-farts?
Indeed.Specineff wrote:Dude. A hot robotic ass needs ventilation. Given that metal absorbs and conducts heat, exhausts are a necessity.Jockel wrote:If that jacket is made out of solid metal, i'd say it's highly impractical.
And what does the grill on her ass mean? Does she let out robot-farts?
Fo shizzle. I think the best we've observed for spacetime not being flat is gravity. Who the hell else knows what's going to happen though. It's an exciting time.CMoon wrote: But not actually observed. We have no real clue whether worm holes exist or not.
Weird. Got a link? I find that interesting... and somewhat strange since the have spent so much time convincing everyone that not only is it expanding, but expanding at an accelerated rate which makes absolutely no sense w/o dark matter.There is some murmuring in the science community of the return of the Steady State Universe; apparently the idea is picking up in popularity again; though I'll admit the big bang is so thoroughly entrenched in my mind I'm having problems imagining the alternative (actually, both are hard to imagine.)
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So what created the bacteria? Are you saying we come from bacteria? Can a big explosion really create life? I have seen my share of things blowing up, but I have yet to see any animals popping out from them.CMoon wrote:Well I can only guess what scope you are thinking of here, but I was referring to the alteration of the atmosphere by the earliest cyanobacteria, changing the concentration of gases to include a large amount of oxygen through photosynthesis.UnscathedFlyingObject wrote:So how did Earth became habitable?
This begs the question though: Where did the aliens come from? Who terraformed their planet and put them there?It makes sense that aliens terraformed Earth and populated it with all sorts of living things.
I like Sci-Fi as much as the next person, but why do I need some outside, unobserved, unexplained force (aliens) to make a world and place life here if it can just as well be explained by mundane natural forces that we can observe every day?
Not at that magnitude. The problem is you're trying to fathom everything on a human scale, which is simply, impossible. Everything to us is microscopic in comparison to most other things in the universe. Singularities for example, are quite a hard concept to wrap your head around, beyond the whole "nothing can escape from them" thing... and we actually know a lot about them. They are zero mass with infinite gravity... how the fuck does that work?!UnscathedFlyingObject wrote: So what created the bacteria? Are you saying we come from bacteria? Can a big explosion really create life? I have seen my share of things blowing up, but I have yet to see any animals popping out from them.
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I... sure as hell hope we did. Considering, you know, DNA being made up of the same sort of stuff. Alien genetic information has a good chance of not being identical to the type of stuff life here is made of.UnscathedFlyingObject wrote:Are you saying we come from bacteria?
I thought that oxygen was a by-product of bacterias. Originally I mean.CMoon wrote:
Well I can only guess what scope you are thinking of here, but I was referring to the alteration of the atmosphere by the earliest cyanobacteria, changing the concentration of gases to include a large amount of oxygen through photosynthesis.
I'm with you on this, and no, unfortunately no link. It was dropped by a researcher I know on another forum who said there was going to be an upcoming publication about it in Nature. Either way, it doesn't really fit my very limited understanding of how the universe works. I brought it up mostly because it goes to show that the people researching this haven't necessarily accepted quite a number of things that we often assume are more or less fact.GaijinPunch wrote:Weird. Got a link? I find that interesting... and somewhat strange since the have spent so much time convincing everyone that not only is it expanding, but expanding at an accelerated rate which makes absolutely no sense w/o dark matter.CMoon wrote: There is some murmuring in the science community of the return of the Steady State Universe; apparently the idea is picking up in popularity again; though I'll admit the big bang is so thoroughly entrenched in my mind I'm having problems imagining the alternative (actually, both are hard to imagine.)
SHMUP sale page.Randorama wrote:ban CMoon for being a closet Jerry Falwell cockmonster/Ann Coulter fan, Nijska a bronie (ack! The horror!), and Ed Oscuro being unable to post 100-word arguments without writing 3-pages posts.
Eugenics: you know it's right!
I probably didn't explain this well. Yes, the early photosynthesizers would have been breaking down CO2 and polluting the atmosphere with O2. Of course, it opens the door for modern cellular respiration.Octopod wrote:I thought that oxygen was a by-product of bacterias. Originally I mean.CMoon wrote:
Well I can only guess what scope you are thinking of here, but I was referring to the alteration of the atmosphere by the earliest cyanobacteria, changing the concentration of gases to include a large amount of oxygen through photosynthesis.
SHMUP sale page.Randorama wrote:ban CMoon for being a closet Jerry Falwell cockmonster/Ann Coulter fan, Nijska a bronie (ack! The horror!), and Ed Oscuro being unable to post 100-word arguments without writing 3-pages posts.
Eugenics: you know it's right!
First, I'm starting to worry that we're derailing the current alien thread. Origins and Evolution threads have typically done poorly here and I don't want to get someone else's thread shut down.UnscathedFlyingObject wrote: So what created the bacteria? Are you saying we come from bacteria? Can a big explosion really create life? I have seen my share of things blowing up, but I have yet to see any animals popping out from them.
SHMUP sale page.Randorama wrote:ban CMoon for being a closet Jerry Falwell cockmonster/Ann Coulter fan, Nijska a bronie (ack! The horror!), and Ed Oscuro being unable to post 100-word arguments without writing 3-pages posts.
Eugenics: you know it's right!
I've... had pages from the Epona Project thing open in my browser for days and my eyes keep falling off the screen whenever I tab to it.... does, does that kind of count?Randorama wrote:Maybe it is just me, or does anyone else finds some of the 'serious' arguments way too pretentious?
RegalSin wrote:New PowerPuff Girls. They all have evil pornstart eyelashes.
BryanM wrote: I've... had pages from the Epona Project thing open in my browser for days and my eyes keep falling off the screen whenever I tab to it.... does, does that kind of count?
Indeed... but assuming they *don't* want to meet us is equally baseless. Assuming there is intelligent life out there, we can only assume it's similar to us in some sort of ways... IE, would of course follow the laws of physics, but that's about all we know for sure (at the moment). For all we know, all intelligent life are in a galactic contest of hide and go seek, with everyone being determined to win.The only thing I wonder, why 'aliens' should bother to contact us? Personally, I think that "if aliens exist, then they want to contact us" is indeed a big conditional or, more precisely, it simplifies a lot things, to put it in mild terms. Some of us are really curious about other (intelligent) life forms but, why some different life form should *think* in such a way that they want to bother contacting someone else outside their world?
You only have to read a few posts here think that.(I am serious, I am not a biologist and I really don't believe in 'Intelligence').
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