If you could 1CC a game.....

[Tigershark]

If you could choose one game of the following to go for the 1CC which would it be and why?

I am aware there may be better games but I'm basing this on games I own and would love to 1CC. For example I have many Cave games but I'd love to 1CC Dodonpachi. I'm particularly interested in hearing peoples' views who have actually 1CCd more than one of these games.

The games (in no particular order):

1. Radiant Silvergun
2. Battle Garegga
3. Zero Gunner 2 (oh so close but no cigar)
4. Trizeal
5. Ikaruga (I have the DC version)
6. Dodonpachi (I have the PSX Version)

[Danbo]

i have cleared bgaregga and ddonpach and my opinion, is that you should clear garegga! it's a hard game but it's really worth it!

[Tigershark]

Great. And your reasons why?

[lgb]

DoDonPachi first loop is easy. Do that.

[Kollision]

Easier ones are obviously Zero Gunner 2 and Trizeal.

[Danbo]

Great. And your reasons why?

- really Really good music, killer graphics, the game has a really cool "atmosphere" to it that's really lacking from dodonpachi or other games, even artistic masterpiece "I Ka Ru Ga"
- a relaly complex and rewarding game to get into if you like getting high scores and wierd tricky shit
- a very hard game as i said, and hard in ways that will constantly surprise you
- you will get mad cred with your friends and girls for clearing battle garegga

its probably not the ideal choice for a first 1cc but its definitely my favourite out of those 6 games. it's not for everyone, but if it is for you, then you'll love it. never mind people saying do the easiest one, they're just being children. you must Gain the courage to be a man and clear garegga

[lgb]

I'd definitely say Ikaruga has that "atmosphere"... and he just wants to 1CC it. You know this...

[Tigershark]

At Danbo: Great reply. Thanks.

Best I've done is get to the end of the fourth level by which time I'd chewed the inside of my cheeks off. I agree a great game but bloody hard. Rank is a real bastard. I think to complete it I'd have to play no other games at all except for this one months on end.

[Danbo]

it took me about 2 months to 1cc greg, playing a credit or two more or less each day, but i already had a few 1ccs under my belt, so bear that in mind. you might get discouraged - stage 6 is a very discouraging place!

ddp is the go-to for the cheap and easy 1cc, but i still have to recommend garegga because it's amazing. and if you haven't even played stage 5 you are really missing out!

[drunkninja24]

I'm working on DDP myself right now, picked up the PCB a while back. I can get to Stage 6, but I lose it about halfway through (also doesn't help that nearly every time I make it to Stage 6, I always wind up having stupid deaths way back from earlier stages that I've no-missed previously that keep me from having lives to progress with).

[CptRansom]

Getting the 1-ALL in DDP is so easy even *I* did it. You get like, what, 25 bombs? Just no-miss no-bomb through stage 3 (shouldn't take more than a day and a half of practice) and then BOMBSPAM.

[Kollision]

shit
I feel like shit when you all say 1CCing DDP is easy.

[Ruldra]

Go for Dodonpachi. Pick the C-S ship and try not to die with bombs in stock. A couple of weeks should get the job done.

Battle Garegga will require a lot more effort but it's also doable.

[Matsunaga]

It's not "that" easy to clear DDP, I've done it but it gets pretty damn hard near the end. I would love to 1cc Garegga, that and Bakraid are at the top of my list right now. I've been to the 5th level boss a few times in BG, I still have a lot of work to do.

[Danbo]

shit
I feel like shit when you all say 1CCing DDP is easy.

"shmup easy"

[BulletMagnet]

I'd choose to 1CC Garegga, if only for the spectacle of the head of every Raizing fan on this board exploding once they found out.

[emphatic]

I'd go for Garegga as well. It's just so awesome. I don't have a DDP 1CC yet (I haven't played it much at all ) but I got my Holy Grail 1CC just two days ago (Ketsui) and it felt awesome.

[Deca]

Definitely Garegga, that game has the strongest atmosphere and aesthetic of any stg I've ever played. I was all about getting DDP until I found out there were two loops and the absurd requirements for Hibachi. I've sorta been working on the first loop, consistently reaching stage 5 with too many bombs in 4

Ikaruga and Radiant Silvergun do nothing for me. Garegga is definitely my personal long-term STG goal.

[Ruldra]

The problem with Garegga is, first you'll have to take a good read at the ST thread to learn how to play it properly. By the time you attempt the 1cc you should have all the game mechanics in your head already.

Then you need to learn how to consistently chain medals during your run so you keep those extends coming. That's gonna take a lot of practice too.

That's why I recommend DDP first, there's no weird mechanics to worry about. Just pick your ship and shoot stuff.

[Subterranean Sun]

Go with Garegga or Ikaruga. Playing DDP for 1cc is pretty pointless since you can never say you "beat" a pachi game without smashing all available loops and TLB, which is likely an impossible challenge.

[ShmupSamurai]

Thunder Force III- I came close to it once.....

[Tigershark]

So, Garegga for kudos then?

I played it last night for the first time since the last competition here and after a few goes got to the third stage. It's the end of the third/fourth that's the killer - literally. But I suppose that's why it's in one of my 6 because it would be great to do it (as with all the others). I could have added Batsugun in there too but for me it didn't have the soul of the other games I've listed that I have. Eyebrows may be raised at that last comment given my inclusion of Trizeal, but there's something about that game that floats my boat. Always get killed stupidly on the mothership end boss on the third level(?) or is it the fourth?

I was really getting into Futari 1.5 but the third level when playing for score is just plain stupid and it's put me off. Espagaluda II has only had a few plays for no good reason save that I haven't bothered getting into it yet.

Anyway, thanks for the comments. Interesting that there are few for for ZG2.

Too many shooters and not enough time.

[Kollision]

I was the only one who mentioned Zero Gunner 2 and Trizeal
in a forum with so much Cave/Raizing fandom that was to be expected though

[Tigershark]

Indeed you did but your reasoning was that they were easy. Any other reasons?

[Skykid]

Lol, go for Garegga man! I'll check back in two years to find out if you did it.

Seriously though, that game is hard as nails. Go for Dodonpachi, you'll have it finished in no time at all (B-shot type) and you'll have loads of fun doing it.

[Kollision]

Indeed you did but your reasoning was that they were easy. Any other reasons?

Well, they were the only ones in your list I have already 1CCed.

Zero Gunner 2 is great fun and its arena style is a welcome break from the usual vert/hori shooters we're always playing.
Trizeal is very old school and despite a boring 1st stage it just gets better and better as you reach the end. I love the fight against the 4th boss. The shaft stage (5th) is a challenge in itself with all those Ikaruga-like cubes.

If you enjoy puzzling through stuff you'll be fine with Ikaruga, but this game just gets on my nerves.
It's beautiful yet highly unnerving because I can't dissociate playing for fun from playing for score. And I get angry at the game all the time.
I think Radiant Silvergun is better than Ikaruga because it allows you *time* to think about your chaining (meaning it's slow[er] paced and more friendly to beginners). However it's an epic undertaking and you should be aware of that before standing up to the task.

DoDonPachi is a bit like Ikaruga with the chaining love/hate relationship, but it's always intense and after a while chaining becomes second nature to surviving, at least for mere mortals like me.

As for Garegga, I never played it seriously, this game gives me the creeps. But I will play it someday.

[TLB]

Go for Garegga, it's not as hard as people say once you know how to score to extend to suicide. Apart from that, it's fucking awesome.

Otherwise I'd consider Ikaruga or the first loop of Zero Gunner 2. I hate Ikaruga for some reason. As beautiful as it is and as cool as the bosses are, it still rubs me very much in the wrong way. If you wanted to "1CC" Zero Gunner 2 you'd have to 2-ALL it, same with DDP.

As Skykid said, B-S is the bomb for DDP. I 1-ALLed DDP with B-S after drinking a glass of whiskey and watching The One. It was kind of awesome.
The reasons for B-S being awesome are mostly that the hitbox makes a ton of sense and you have an insanely thick shot that, for most enemies, is as effective as a laser, but requires less speed-changes. There isn't a whole lot of difference between laser powers, so don't worry about B-S's laser being crippled or anything. People like shoe will tell you "use c-s and spam shot for gigantic slowdownses" but if you don't like the hitbox, you're going to die, and you're not going to like it.

I guess I did just say I wouldn't play DDP, but there's some nice information for you

[Matsunaga]

Do you have any 1cc's yet? Just saying, I wouldn't try and make Garegga my first 1cc, it's way too hard, you might burn yourself out. I would start with Batsugun, that shouldn't take more than a week or two, then move on to DDP or Galuda.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

I suppose DDP can be easy or hard, easy if you totally ignore scoring and chaining, hard if your the sort of gamer (like me) who cant seem to stop chaining even when trying to 1CC.

If you're the latter type like me then i highly sugest going for the 1CC as soon as you can before you learn any scoring techniques, cos once you start follow those chaining paths it can be hard stop doing them.

Its quite odd for me though, as im usually quite a disiplined player when 1CCing or whatever. But theres something about DDP that makes all disipline go out of the window.

[KindGrind]

Do you have any 1cc's yet? Just saying, I wouldn't try and make Garegga my first 1cc, it's way too hard, you might burn yourself out. I would start with Batsugun, that shouldn't take more than a week or two, then move on to DDP or Galuda.

QFT.

Although Galuda is a good candidate, the last boss in itself is much harder than the rest of the game.

Also, Icky is probably the easiest 1cc in the list.