The E3 2010 Thread

[Ghegs]

I can't be the only who thought the 3DS was a gimmicky device that doesn't bring anything new to the table gameplay-wise and as such is pointless...can I? Everybody seems to be throwing their money at Nintendo already. Which is nothing new, I guess.

What I did like:

Metal Gear Solid: Rising, Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit and especially Hard Corps: Uprising are high on my "do want"-list. Lara Croft: Guardian of Light looked surprisingly cool, what little footage I saw of Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 looked good and Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings was intriguing. I did like the first game. Not sure about Castlevania: Harmony of Despair, need to play the trial before making any decisions. Portal 2, of course, but I'm not sure if my PC can handle that.

[moozooh]

Don't forget that native 3DS titles also benefit from the console's increased performance capabilities. Not sure how much, though, there are speculations that it may be comparable to PSP, although I doubt it.

[Lordstar]

My eyes have this thing where they go out of focus often (most the time when im reading black print on white comes to mind there are other combniations) I would need to have a long hard play of a 3DS to see if it effects my eyes in a way as where im having to force a refocus everry couple of mins.

[Ghegs]

Don't forget that native 3DS titles also benefit from the console's increased performance capabilities. Not sure how much, though, there are speculations that it may be comparable to PSP, although I doubt it.

I didn't know the otherwise increased capabilities, actually. But it doesn't surprise me, Nintendo's done the same thing before while still claiming that the system isn't the true successor to their previous handheld. So I guess "3DS Only!"-titles can be expected.

[Vexorg]

My eyes have this thing where they go out of focus often (most the time when im reading black print on white comes to mind there are other combniations) I would need to have a long hard play of a 3DS to see if it effects my eyes in a way as where im having to force a refocus everry couple of mins.

I've got a bad eye (Keratoconus, which should eventually be fixable but I function just fine with the other eye so I've never really done anything about it) so the 3D is basically useless for me anyway. At least it can be turned off relatively easily.

[xris]

The Scott Pilgrim game looks like a really fun beatemup, absolutly love the look of it.
Necromachina, need to demo this.
Castlevania, maybe.
Glad there's stuff to play multi with rlf's coming soon.

[Acid King]

Rayman Origins

Add this to my list. That looks awesome.

[drunkninja24]

Don't forget that native 3DS titles also benefit from the console's increased performance capabilities. Not sure how much, though, there are speculations that it may be comparable to PSP, although I doubt it.

I didn't know the otherwise increased capabilities, actually. But it doesn't surprise me, Nintendo's done the same thing before while still claiming that the system isn't the true successor to their previous handheld. So I guess "3DS Only!"-titles can be expected.

Well, yeah. It's a whole new system, not simply a DS redesign.

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

This E3 wasn't too bad. There were quite a few decent looking games:

Metal Gear Solid Rising (if they manage to get an editor)
Never Dead (from the creator of Silent Hill)
Vanquish
God of War Ghost of Sparta
Twisted Metal (you don't see a good car combat game every day)
The Third Birthday (return of Parasite Eve? awesum)
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Metroid Other M
Dead Space 2
Devil's Third
El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron
Time Crisis: Rizing Storm (TC4 and Deastorm Pirates included. Hell yeah)
Marvel vs Capcom 3
Castlevania Lords of Shadow
Rayman Origins (sweet ass 2D)

Half of the list will probably not satisfy me, but a game that does happens infrequently.

[Jonathan Ingram]

Never Dead (from the creator of Silent Hill)

Silent Hill creator is Keiichiro Toyama and he`s been heading Team Siren at Sony for the past ten years or so. Never Dead is developed by Rebellion. It`s a UK based dev, I think.

[neorichieb1971]

I can't be the only who thought the 3DS was a gimmicky device that doesn't bring anything new to the table gameplay-wise and as such is pointless...can I? Everybody seems to be throwing their money at Nintendo already. Which is nothing new, I guess.

Baby step formulas in the handheld market make me sick. Its like as soon as the latest iteration comes out the last one is obsolete in the eyes of traders. Who wants a NDS now? Nobody? It won't be long before Nintendo bring out another one, probably at next years E3.

I was hoping for a Wii + with HDMI upscaling going on so that my TV doesn't make the Wii look like a cube. I refuse to buy a wii game for that very reason. Nintendo depress me, they lost my respect somewhere between cube and now in the living room. As for the handheld market, its a landfill market as I explained above.

[Drum]

Don't forget that native 3DS titles also benefit from the console's increased performance capabilities. Not sure how much, though, there are speculations that it may be comparable to PSP, although I doubt it.

I didn't know the otherwise increased capabilities, actually. But it doesn't surprise me, Nintendo's done the same thing before while still claiming that the system isn't the true successor to their previous handheld.

Sheesh. If you had even glanced at a single video or screenshot or any writeup of the system you would know that. Also, Nintendo said - in pretty much exactly those words - that the system is the true successor to their previous handheld.

So I guess "3DS Only!"-titles can be expected.

There is a list of announced/planned games, including a MGS3 port and a Contra game.

[Drum]

Oh, list time. Stuff I think looks pretty cool (wasn't necessarily shown at E3):

Portal 2
Bulletstorm
The Last Guardian
Kirby's Epic Yarn
Necromachina
Journey
Zelda
El Shaddai
Marvel vs Capcom 3
King of Fighters XIII
Metroid Other M
Okamiden
Dead Rising 2
Steel Diver
Fallout New Vegas
Otomedius Excellent (maybe)

[BulletMagnet]

So I guess "3DS Only!"-titles can be expected.

And if it follows in the footsteps of the DSi, they'll be region-locked as well...has there been any word on whether this is the case?

I haven't kept up too closely with E3, and I've got no particular love for the "3D" trend of late, but if the system has enough good games on it (considering the amount of early support it's got lined up, the law of averages has to factor in there someplace) I'll be tempted to buy, eventually...for now I'll wait and see.

[Ed Oscuro]

Wait, Nintendo is releasing yet another handheld? So soon after the DSi? Sorry Nintendo, not buying (unless they prove it's going to be supported long term). You release hardware for years, not months.

And region locked - ehh, another reason to be skeptical. Losing BC, losing a lot of stuff really, makes this less fun than it should be.

[kengou]

Silent Hill creator is Keiichiro Toyama and he`s been heading Team Siren at Sony for the past ten years or so. Never Dead is developed by Rebellion. It`s a UK based dev, I think.

Rebellion is also a pretty terrible developer. The only good game they have to their credit is the original Alien vs Predator from 1999. I wouldn't expect much out of them; all their recent games have been awful.

As for E3, the one surprise for me was Vanquish. I hate cover-based 3rd-person shooters because of how boring they all are, but Vanquish looked like a ton of fun from the videos I saw. It had a little more substance and intensity than 'sit there and shoot at stuff'.

I'm also keeping an eye on the new Front Mission game. I'm hoping it will be a little closer to mechwarrior than armored core, but we'll see.

[CMoon]

As for E3, the one surprise for me was Vanquish.

As well you should, it's by platinum games. I'm not in love with every game they've made, but they've all been worth checking out. The aesthetic here isn't really my thing, but the gameplay videos do make it clear there's a bit more going on here.

[Ghegs]

Sheesh. If you had even glanced at a single video or screenshot or any writeup of the system you would know that. Also, Nintendo said - in pretty much exactly those words - that the system is the true successor to their previous handheld.

Don't assume things. Admittedly I haven't followed the system that closely, but all the videos/articles I've stumbled upon have only been gushing about the 3D effect. That the system is officially the true successor makes it even worse in my eyes. Like neorichieb1971 and Ed Oscuro already pointed at, it's way too soon and it's such a small improvement over the NDS that calling it the "next big handheld system" is practically an insult.

[MrMonkeyMan]

Come on, it's been 6 years since the DS was released. For comparison the Gameboy Advance only had 3 years before the DS came out.

Besides, the 3DS is a lot more powerful than the DS. It's not just a DS with a fancy 3D screen.

[Elixir]

Come on, it's been 6 years since the DS was released. For comparison the Gameboy Advance only had 3 years before the DS came out.

Besides, the 3DS is a lot more powerful than the DS. It's not just a DS with a fancy 3D screen.

You're forgetting about the DS Lite, DSi, and DSi XL they all released in between to keep the yearly profits high.

I just can't get into handhelds for some reason, despite owning a PSP, DS Lite and DSi.

[Jockel]

it's way too soon and it's such a small improvement over the NDS that calling it the "next big handheld system" is practically an insult.

Yeah, right.



Wait, what?

[Drum]

Sheesh. If you had even glanced at a single video or screenshot or any writeup of the system you would know that. Also, Nintendo said - in pretty much exactly those words - that the system is the true successor to their previous handheld.

Don't assume things. Admittedly I haven't followed the system that closely, but all the videos/articles I've stumbled upon have only been gushing about the 3D effect. That the system is officially the true successor makes it even worse in my eyes. Like neorichieb1971 and Ed Oscuro already pointed at, it's way too soon and it's such a small improvement over the NDS that calling it the "next big handheld system" is practically an insult.

I'm assuming things? The 3DS has an analog stick, motion controls and power roughly comparable to a PS2/Gamecube/Wii (we don't know exactly how much grunt it has - few full games have been shown so far and the most complete-looking game, Kid Icarus, looks very PSP-level - but the Resident Evil and Metal Gear demos are definitely in advance of that). The fact that it has a DSi-like camera and internal storage from the get-go also means those features will actually be used, unlike the (imo) redundant and obviously stop-gap DSi.

What sort of features would, to you, make this a 'true' upgrade?

RE: Handhelds:

I was really big into handhelds with the GBA and at the start of the gen with PSP/DS. I was not at all impressed with the stuff being released on consoles early this gen, and handhelds picked up the slack.
Then I discovered the PC indie scene and consoles got a lot better (even though the good games seem spread out, which is frustrating - and expensive), and handheld releases seemed to get less interesting. 3DS really caught my attention, though - but there aren't all that many exciting games revealed just yet.

[Jonathan Ingram]

Why do games for a handheld that likely isn`t coming out until 2011 barely look any better than games for a six years old handheld? Nintendo... never change. Hopefully Sony is working on PSP2, because I just can`t get myself excited for anything from Nintendo these days. PSP2 with Demon`s Souls and Monster Hunter at launch would be killer.

[neorichieb1971]

PSP2 needs to address a couple of things for me. The analog and dpads need to be changed. I would also like a handheld that is comfortable to hold over many hours. So grips, like those on a dual shock controller should be introduced. I can't play handhelds when i'm holding the console and pressing the buttons at the same time. I feel like I need it on my lap. Mind they will probably keep DS3 compatibility for it via USB or bluetooth.

[Ganelon]

Losing BC, losing a lot of stuff really, makes this less fun than it should be.

Huh? Nintendo already announced that the 3DS would be fully compatible with DS and DS-i titles: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2010/100323e.pdf

Nothing has been announced on region restrictions though although it's probably a given. A huge shame considering 1/4 of my DS library consists of JP games. Guess I may have to splurge twice.

Overall, there were quite a few 3DS games I wanted to get, from Ridge Racer (looks to be a new installment with classic mechanics) to Chocobo Racing 3D. Also will get SSFIV 3D, DOA 3D, and Samurai Warriors 3D if they have new characters and aren't just dumbed down ports offering 3D. 3D is definitely the future of 3D games so I'm pumped. On the console end, I was sort of disappointed nobody picked up the Armored Core 5 game for the US yet.

[evil_ash_xero]

it's way too soon and it's such a small improvement over the NDS that calling it the "next big handheld system" is practically an insult.

Yeah, right.

Ah, The Boss. What a fight.

[BulletMagnet]

3D is definitely the future of 3D games

I'm inclined to agree.

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

Gametrailers made a video with the biggest mess-ups from the show:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-20 ... 4?type=flv

Konami's conference was pure hilarity. I'm suspecting Konami cheaped out and sent their devs to present their games instead of hiring some competent presenters to save a couple bucks, which is fine and dandy, if their English wasn't so BAD.

[BIL]

I kinda dug the soft porn tunes Konami licensed from Cinemax for their pre-conference music.

[chempop]

I'm pretty negative towards the state of modern gaming, but I actually thought this years E3 was one of the best in a long time. Sure there are countless sequels that are redundant and expected, but there were some real hits too - even for a niche gamer as myself.

- Child of Eden (can't express how happy I am for this)
- El Shaddai (loved the artwork and colors, reminded me a bit of Mark of Kri with the animations)
- Kid Ikarus (great mix of aerial combat a al Sin and Punishment and exploration)
- Hard Corps (nifty throwback here)

As far as the 3DS and Nintendo's portable market in general - they know what they are doing. What I like about their strategy is that they DO support the handhelds for a significant duration. Some people love buying each and every updated system, me personally, I only got the first GBA and the original DS which I'm content with - but I definitely know people who need the most recent everything. Nintendo caters to both type of consumers and the 3DS is certainly a next gen handheld.