The best version of MAME, all things considered?

[unsane]

Also, more Naomi progress: http://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2009/05/06/texture-fixes/

Border Down and the fabled Ikaruga on the horizon, nice.

[MadScientist]

David Haywood's blog;

"I’ve decided to call it a day as far as MAME development is concerned..."

http://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2009/05/1 ... -it-a-day/

There goes the Naomi progress...

[`Throwdown]

I use MAME 0.129, have download the hiscores.dat and create a "hi" folder... for what reason or what do I need to do to get all my shmups to record my high scores and keep them? Kinda pointless playing shmups and never having a hi-score... lol

Im sure this has been asked/clearified somewhere, but I'd like to find out whatever way. :/

[captpain]

I have a zillion different versions on my HDD and if one doesn't work or doesn't have a feature I need, I just switch to another.

It's nice to have a bunch of them ready because people use different versions for replays, also.

[redeyeguy_KIO]

Hmm.. interesting info here.

I pretty much use nfba or ggpofba for most shmups; if no other choice, I just stick to MAME 0.131.

[Momijitsuki]

I've been using MAME32 0.103u3 for the longest time now. I've had no problems with it, really, so I stick with it.

[Dale]

I can't get Battle Garrega or Kingdom Grand Prix to work in any of the versions of mame. I have every rom for each game.

[Mortificator]

Are they passing audit?

[captpain]

I can't get Battle Garrega or Kingdom Grand Prix to work in any of the versions of mame. I have every rom for each game.

Tried wolfmame 0.99? Raine will work for sure, also.

[Dale]

Thanks for the tip.

[`Throwdown]

So no one here keeps high scores on their MAME shmups or what?

[edo]

I use MAME 0.129, have download the hiscores.dat and create a "hi" folder... for what reason or what do I need to do to get all my shmups to record my high scores and keep them? Kinda pointless playing shmups and never having a hi-score... lol

Im sure this has been asked/clearified somewhere, but I'd like to find out whatever way. :/

Support for hiscore.dat was discontinued a long time ago. If you want to use the unofficial hiscore.dat, you will need to use an unofficial mame build, such as MAMEUIFX. The forum there should contain all the information you need.

[jonny5]

mame32ui or whatever its called now still has high score functions, at least up until .128, but it only saves scores for games that had save functions on the arcade hardware

[Mortificator]

For games that can't save their high scores natively, just make a save state after you finish playing and load that when you start next time. Rinse, repeat.

[Aguraki]

hi everyone I am a silent reader of this forum but today I need some help.

I'm playing a lot with MAME and want to practice donpachi a bit more but it seems only WOLFMAME 0.99 allows save states on this game.
Problem is I can't make donpachi work on this WOLFMAME 0.99 as it says "prg.u29" and "u58.bin" are not found.

I've searched everywhere and couldn't find these anywhere.
Donpachi loads on WOLFMAME-137 but no save states allowed there.

I have tried so many different versions I have quite lost hope there,and I can't see myself making any progress without save states now.

Any help?

thx

edit:ahah I just found the missing files shortly after posting this.
Is this me or WOLFMAME 0.99 graphics are a bit off?

[Ixmucane2]

I'm playing a lot with MAME and want to practice donpachi a bit more but it seems only WOLFMAME 0.99 allows save states on this game.

You don't need WolfMAME for practice, and if you want to record your performance you can use the current WolfMAME, with current ROM versions to reduce maintenance trouble.
You can practice with other no-frills MAME versions that have save states, like the current official command-line binaries or MAMEUI; for example, the reduced lag hack from the other thread around here is inappropriate because you would get used to its subtly different response.

[jonny5]

I'm playing a lot with MAME and want to practice donpachi a bit more but it seems only WOLFMAME 0.99 allows save states on this game.

the reduced lag hack from the other thread around here is inappropriate because you would get used to its subtly different response.

what?

why would you want to play anything other than the version with the least amount of input lag?

the different 'response' in emulation is input lag....the lagless hack removes some input lag, making it closer to the actual PCB....

i find it odd having laggy emulation as the 'standard' of how a game is meant to play

[ncp]

You mentioned this in another thread, but I've still never seen any testing to say whether or not the PCBs had input lag themselves. I was under the impression it was intentionally added to later versions of MAME to reproduce PCB input lag, but I have nothing to really base this on aside from "why the fuck would they add input lag to their own program if not to properly emulate?"

[jonny5]

You mentioned this in another thread, but I've still never seen any testing to say whether or not the PCBs had input lag themselves. I was under the impression it was intentionally added to later versions of MAME to reproduce PCB input lag, but I have nothing to really base this on aside from "why the fuck would they add input lag to their own program if not to properly emulate?"

that sounds wrong...i dont think they 'added' input delay....that would be foolish

im comparing mame to playing on the actual pcb's....there is input delay in mame that is not there on the pcb ....some worse then others....

try playing progear or guwange in mame, then play the pcb....huge difference

even with the lagless mame, i dont think its perfect 1:1 with the pcb....but its noticeably better

[Ixmucane2]

I'm playing a lot with MAME and want to practice donpachi a bit more but it seems only WOLFMAME 0.99 allows save states on this game.

the reduced lag hack from the other thread around here is inappropriate because you would get used to its subtly different response.

what?

why would you want to play anything other than the version with the least amount of input lag?

No question that lower lag is better, but I assumed he meant to use WolfMAME to record replays, submit high scores etc.: practicing on something markedly different wouldn't be good.

[Aguraki]

No question that lower lag is better, but I assumed he meant to use WolfMAME to record replays, submit high scores etc.: practicing on something markedly different wouldn't be good.

yes I'm not a great player (only 1CC donpachi to 1-4 so far) but without save states it wasn't easy to improve,having to start from 1-1 everytime.
Also I didn't find the way to make it work with laglessMAME yet but I tried with guwange and honestly at my level the difference isn't important.
For casual players wolfmame and mame are really enough imo.

Anyway looking forward to post some scores one day as I'm hooked at this moment into shmups-)

1 more thing:anyone have tips about settings in WOLFMAME?
I used the defaults settings for graphics but don't know if people change anything?

[Obiwanshinobi]

Also I didn't find the way to make it work with laglessMAME yet but I tried with guwange and honestly at my level the difference isn't important.

Like, for real? I'm by no means expert, but found Guwange much improved. It just feels better (more responsive).

[Aguraki]

Also I didn't find the way to make it work with laglessMAME yet but I tried with guwange and honestly at my level the difference isn't important.

Like, for real? I'm by no means expert, but found Guwange much improved. It just feels better (more responsive).

well I've tried it real quick and didn't play guwange a lot at first so I can't tell.
But from a casual player that have never 1cc any shmups(well I think I've done some on PCE but it was 20 years ago-/) the difference aren't that clear.
However I understand the purpose of it and will prob end playing on these if I ever intend anything serious(which I doubt since I seem to suck at shmups or just am too old and didn't developp the corrects skills to play them).

[clp]

Also I didn't find the way to make it work with laglessMAME yet but I tried with guwange and honestly at my level the difference isn't important.

Like, for real? I'm by no means expert, but found Guwange much improved. It just feels better (more responsive).

well I've tried it real quick and didn't play guwange a lot at first so I can't tell.
But from a casual player that have never 1cc any shmups(well I think I've done some on PCE but it was 20 years ago-/) the difference aren't that clear.
However I understand the purpose of it and will prob end playing on these if I ever intend anything serious(which I doubt since I seem to suck at shmups or just am too old and didn't developp the corrects skills to play them).

EVERYONE sucks at shmups at first bro good old practice will bring you up to speed all in good time .