Ikaruga on what?

TheRealNeoGeo · Post by **TheRealNeoGeo** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:06 pm

I was wondering if there is a big difference between Ikaruga on Dreamcast vs the arcade. Is there any difference?

D · Post by D » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:08 pm

TheRealNeoGeo wrote:I was wondering if there is a big difference between Ikaruga on Dreamcast vs the arcade. Is there any difference?

arcade = dreamcast
difference = none

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:10 pm

The arcade version is a little more prown to slow down. Other than that, a line of text at the stage summary screen was changed:

NAOMI:
Your Score This Stage

Dreamcast:
Your Score This Chapter

TheRealNeoGeo · Post by **TheRealNeoGeo** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:17 pm

OK. Also, what VGA box suits a LCD monitor (or any CRT monitor) for the dreamcast.
BTW, any difference between ikaruga on Gamecube vs dreamcast?

Accutron · Post by **Accutron** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:31 pm

US gamecube version features...

-on-screen chain counter
-conquest mode
-extra horizontal screen setting
-less slowdown than the DC version
-inferior graphics and sound
-music in chapter 1 is misaligned by about a second
-chapter texts have been removed

The Japanese gamecube version retains the chapter texts.

The PAL gamecube version has frameskipping and a homing missile bug that affects scoring possibilities.

The DC version is essentially identical to the NAOMI version, but with less slowdown.

TheRealNeoGeo · Post by **TheRealNeoGeo** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:33 pm

So if I want ac close to arcade as possible then DC is best huh?

Accutron · Post by **Accutron** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:48 pm

Yes. Most consider the DC version arcade perfect (minor slowdown differences aside). I should also mention that all of the console versions have prototype mode and practice mode, and the DC version has a chain counter, but it's on the VMU screen.

TheRealNeoGeo · Post by **TheRealNeoGeo** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:36 pm

OK, thanks a lot. Also, does anyone know anything about the vga box for DC?

fraggore · Post by **fraggore** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:06 pm

i got one the dc looks very nice on a crt monitor as for a tft very sharp butt they dont scroll things as nice as a crt.
some of the dc games are not vga compatable bot most of them are.
worth getting one tho i use mine alot the games look like they do on a arcade monitor very sweet

druuna · Post by **druuna** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:14 pm

I'm using this one....it's perfect on my LCD

And cheap too.

http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... eName=WDVW

TheRealNeoGeo · Post by **TheRealNeoGeo** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:54 pm

Thanks for the good responce!

druuna
What LCD-screen do you use? I have a Dell 17", will that work?

dbish · Post by **dbish** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:12 pm

Whoa, graphics are worse on gcn? Really? Didn't know that. Also, I'm planning on buying the hori digitial pad for gamecube. Anyone have impressions on it? The tiny default pad is starting to hurt my thumb after long gaming sessions.

it290 · Post by **it290** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:42 pm

I have both the DC and Cube versions of Ikaruga, and if there's any difference in the graphics, I haven't noticed it. Although the DC version looks better when using a VGA monitor, obviously.

I also have the Hori pad. It's a good little pad, certainly miles better than the regular GC pad for Ikaruga. Still, I can't give it all good marks. The buttons, especially the B button, are a bit mushy in the tactile feedback department, and I would have been much happier if Hori had altered the button layout to an SNES style layout. It's an improvement over the GC pad, but if you have, say, a good Playstation joystick, or even just a DualShock 2, I think you'd be better off just getting a converter for that.

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:53 pm

Well, I've had the luck of playing Ikaruga for GC on Big Screen TV, as well as Dreamcast on Flatscreen Monitor, suffice it to DC Version tends to be more rendered and less built for TV, however, I've noted less polygon breakdown in the GC Version in certain areas (the clouds that pass over your head in the transition from 1-2 to 1-3, and some parts of the high speed portions of 3-2), of course, that's just my observation. And considering how rare Ikaruga is to begin with, I'd say get what you can get.

japtor · Post by **japtor** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:10 am

accutron pretty much got everything. just to clear up the 'inferior graphics' part, its mainly noticeable on the first chapter, along with the sound differences for that matter (the slightly off sound sync).

gc has a softer output image and differences in the cloud overlay in chapter 1. the softer image isnt bad or anything, but its not as good when playing tated imo. if youre gonna be playing yoko, the gc image looks better and is more playable because its softer. dc one looks way bright and too sharp, and doesnt show the full image (cuts off top/bottom), the extra gc mode shows everything. otherwise the gc one doesnt slow down that ive seen, other than on boss explosions where it tries to fake it, and does it badly (way too slow). one last thing, dc one in yoko slows down less than in tate, which slows down less than the naomi version as mentioned. slowdown isnt really an issue unless youve gotten used to one version to begin with.

anyways go with what blade said, just get what you can. the differences arent big enough to really matter if youve never played it. but now that i see the original post again, yeah dc is closest to the naomi one.

al138 · Post by **al138** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:03 pm

While the DC version is an excellent purchase, I really prefer the Gamecube version. The lack of slowdown, combined with a superior controller layout makes the GC version a pleasure to play. It's also a little easier to find.

Accutron · Post by **Accutron** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:19 pm

Ikaurga isn't very rare. It's certainly not so rare that you need a 'take what you can get' mentality. It's had five releases in three regions, all of which are readily available on eBay.

The audiovisual differences between the DC version and GC version aren't severe, but they are certainly noticeable in a side-by-side comparison. The best way I can describe it is that the GC version's graphics and audio are 'muffled' in comparison to the DC version.

It should also be mentioned that the GC version is plagued with various audio bugs and will occasionally freeze. The DC version does not experience these problems.

TheRealNeoGeo · Post by **TheRealNeoGeo** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:03 pm

Can somebody answer if they know what VGA-box to use with a dreamcast on a Dell 17TFT monitor please?

rcgrant · Post by **rcgrant** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:15 pm

TheRealNeoGeo wrote:Can somebody answer if they know what VGA-box to use with a dreamcast on a Dell 17TFT monitor please?

Preferably a Sega VGA box, like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

TheRealNeoGeo · Post by **TheRealNeoGeo** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:44 pm

rcgrant
Thanks! But will it work on my TFT you think?
I am also going to buy a japanese Dreamcast, is there something I must know (is for example the R7 dreamcast better in any way that the ordinary one)?

Accutron · Post by **Accutron** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:16 pm

TheRealNeoGeo wrote:I am also going to buy a japanese Dreamcast, is there something I must know (is for example the R7 dreamcast better in any way that the ordinary one)?

The R7 Dreamcast is more expensive, black, and has a big ugly R7 logo on the lid and controller. It's collectible.

japtor · Post by **japtor** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:29 pm

But will it work on my TFT you think?

should work fine, assuming it can display 640x480 over vga (which pretty much any computer monitor can do). quality varies between lcds, may look decent to sorta crappy depending on the scaling it does. you can switch your computer to 640x480 to see how it handles it i guess.

but for tate mode, ikaruga only has one option, counter clockwise. all the dell lcds ive seen only rotate clockwise. if you dont plan on rotating your lcd to play, you should be fine. but if you want to tate, youll probably have to detach the screen from the base (if you even have one of the rotating ones).

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