DOJ on PGM2

thegreathopper · Post by **thegreathopper** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:18 am

Just received this Email from Excellent. $900 complete kit.

legztec · Post by **legztec** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:25 am

got that tooo but thought it was two separate items...
no price though

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:01 pm

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:52 pm

I don't think any Cave completionist is insane enough to pay that much for the original DOJ. It's not even Black Label.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:58 pm

legztec wrote:got that tooo but thought it was two separate items...
no price though

No, you can see in the original email the pic of the PGM cart is a closeup of Shotia against the DOJ ship. And I'm assuming thegreathopper emailed them back asking how much.

Perhaps this is to satisfy operators who's original DOJ boards are breaking due to the battery leaking. Only thing is that price is way too much considering you can get a used BL for much less than that.

pixeljunkie · Post by **pixeljunkie** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:51 pm

anxious for more details to emerge on this

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:03 pm

According to the flyer, the title is: Dodonpachi Daioujou Tamashi

So does an extra kanji constitute a gameplay/scoring revision?

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:08 pm

crosses fingers for puzzle game

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:21 pm

Kiken wrote: So does an extra kanji constitute a gameplay/scoring revision?

no, but in true CAVE fashion that added kanji will cost you an extra $700

pixeljunkie · Post by **pixeljunkie** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:26 pm

sven666 wrote:
Kiken wrote: So does an extra kanji constitute a gameplay/scoring revision?
no, but in true CAVE fashion that added kanji will cost you an extra $700

"another version"

THE · Post by **THE** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:03 pm

Damn, I'm a sucker for cartridges, but I already have DOJ/ESPG/Ketsui on PCB.
But it would be awesome if they put out, DOJ: BL, ESPG Arrange and Ketsui X on PGM2...I would hit that.

eckart · Post by **eckart** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:29 pm

Best news of the year.

thegreathopper · Post by **thegreathopper** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:31 pm

Dave_K. wrote:
legztec wrote:got that tooo but thought it was two separate items...
no price though
No, you can see in the original email the pic of the PGM cart is a closeup of Shotia against the DOJ ship. And I'm assuming thegreathopper emailed them back asking how much.

Yes I emailed them back $900 + shipping.

pixeljunkie · Post by **pixeljunkie** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:31 pm

according to ECL:

"It almost the same only a bit different for the before Cave DDP DOJ, some parts graphic and pellet more power"

soooo, $900 for something that is still in the market for $300? Makes sense to me!

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:11 pm

pixeljunkie wrote:according to ECL:

"It almost the same only a bit different for the before Cave DDP DOJ, some parts graphic and pellet more power"

soooo, $900 for something that is still in the market for $300? Makes sense to me!

...I guess you've never seen Cave's black labels?

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:20 pm

ncp wrote:
pixeljunkie wrote:according to ECL:

"It almost the same only a bit different for the before Cave DDP DOJ, some parts graphic and pellet more power"

soooo, $900 for something that is still in the market for $300? Makes sense to me!
...I guess you've never seen Cave's black labels?

I'm curious to hear exactly what on this one is different. I don't have much experience with the other black labels- but in the case of Ibara it is night and day between black and vanilla.

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:46 am

Well, specifically DOJ BL had very minor changes, yet the board costs a fortune, like over twice as much (3x?) as a regular DOJ board.

pixeljunkie · Post by **pixeljunkie** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:58 pm

ncp wrote:Well, specifically DOJ BL had very minor changes, yet the board costs a fortune, like over twice as much (3x?) as a regular DOJ board.

yeah, but you also get that sweet suicide battery too

AKRATEN · Post by **AKRATEN** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:13 pm

its another bee storm?

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:01 am

pixeljunkie wrote:
ncp wrote:Well, specifically DOJ BL had very minor changes, yet the board costs a fortune, like over twice as much (3x?) as a regular DOJ board.
yeah, but you also get that sweet suicide battery too

pixeljunkie · Post by **pixeljunkie** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:35 pm

anyone dig up any new info on this one yet? Someone here HAS to have gotten it.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:44 pm

AKRATEN wrote:its another bee storm?

DDP 2... 2

Incoming IGS bootleg-athon.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:48 pm

Kiken wrote:
AKRATEN wrote:its another bee storm?

DDP 2... 2

Incoming IGS bootleg-athon.

I know that was just a jab at IGS, but seriously, its not bootleg. They legally licensed DDP from Cave to create their own version, and fanboys get all upset because of the 2 in the title, and that it looks like the original, but doesn't play like it. No shit sherlock, its an arranged version.

So it looks to me like IGS is doing the same thing here with DOJ, they obviously licensed it, their IGS logo is in the upper left of the flyer, and no mention of Cave. I for one welcome any arranged versions, wether or not it confirms to IKD's anal chaining mechanics.

Post by **nZero** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:19 pm

DDP2 is one of my favorite 'pachi's just from the few times I got to sit down with it at the MD shmupmeets

I'm actually really interested to see what IGS can do with the assets from DOJ.

charlie chong · Post by **charlie chong** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:21 pm

so after all that it's another igs arrangeathon

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:38 pm

900 dollars though. Why? Does it come with a loli real doll?

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:59 pm

I think calling DDP2 an "arranged version" is a bit weird. It was an original game, different levels (stage backgrounds were similar but the enemy layouts are completely different), scoring, shot types, bullet patterns, etc, the only thing in common were the enemy sprites and name... This DOJ seems like it's going to be an arranged version though.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:15 pm

I'm interested in one. But i'm not biting the bullet first haha.

brentsg · Post by **brentsg** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:39 am

I talked with Fannie on IM a bit.

This price includes the PGM2 board and the cart. (uhh sorry just saw that in the OP)

I asked if it plays the same as the original DOJ and I got this: "almost the same only some picture and the more power".

One way to interpret this would be that this revision has better graphics. Some picture sounds like graphics to me. More power, I think would refer to the PGM2 hardware.

Someone should buy this.

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:01 am

brentsg wrote:More power, I think would refer to the PGM2 hardware.

Earlier post said this:

"It almost the same only a bit different for the before Cave DDP DOJ, some parts graphic and pellet more power"

Sounds like more shot power, which would not be entirely unexpected of an arranged version.

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