Espgaluda II

[dog$]

OK, so we're still in the "watch the videos you dumbass" phase. Maybe I should have wrote the initial post to say "I've watched the videos a million times and I don't perfectly understand what's going on in them", because if I did that I would still be in the same state as I'm in now and that would still lead to me coming here to ask questions.

But it is too late for that.

Everything you need to know to develop your own strats is already in the strategy guide on these forums.

I disagree to an extent. The guide has very detailed information about how all the game's functions work but, outside of boss battles and how to do certain specific things like find the extend or the gold fountain, gives no basis behind when to do anything in any given situation at all.

If you have questions about specific aspects in the guide, it would best to pose those in the strategy thread.

I don't have any questions about the guide. It's well written and clear to understand. Moreover, I thought it would be better for this kind of conversation to be kept out of the strategy thread. I don't think anyone wants to read a twenty post exchange of "watch the videos you dumbass" versus "I want discussion about what's going on in the videos because I'm not comprehending what's going on in them" in that thread. That's what drove me to post here.

you're no Clover TAC and odds are you never will be.

Thanks for pointing that out. I had no idea.

I used to try and throw in a few big words here and there to seem "smart" but instead I came off as being pompous and arrogant

So my questions would be more valid if I only used monosyllabic words? OK, I'll keep that in mind.

Well, sorry for wasting everyone's time. I think it's fair to say that nobody wants this conversation to continue so I won't persist after this post.

[roker]

So my questions would be more valid if I only used monosyllabic words?

You'd be taken more seriously if you spoke like people do everyday

[orange]

ah yes legendary shooting game forum 'system11'

[Pirate1019]

ah yes legendary shooting game forum 'system11'

Where elitists go because shmups are serious business.

[Plasmo]

So my questions would be more valid if I only used monosyllabic words? OK, I'll keep that in mind.

Hey stop using these big words. What's a monosyllabic?!

It's the internet, write like you would talk to people with an IQ under 80 and you'll be fine. Otherwise you're arrogant.

I don't have any questions about the guide. It's well written and clear to understand. Moreover, I thought it would be better for this kind of conversation to be kept out of the strategy thread. I don't think anyone wants to read a twenty post exchange of "watch the videos you dumbass" versus "I want discussion about what's going on in the videos because I'm not comprehending what's going on in them" in that thread. That's what drove me to post here.

You should avoid this kind of conversation of course, but why can't you specify your question a bit so that it would actually fit for the strategy topic?
example questions:

How do I approach this boss?
How can I get X amount of gold from these enemies?
Where should I use zetsushikai mode in stage X?

Of course these questions could be answered from watching a vid alone, but they are specific enough to be answered by people in prose again.

[chempop]

Of course these questions could be answered from watching a vid alone, but they are specific enough to be answered by people in prose again.

Am I the only person who enjoys figuring out strategy by actually playing the game and trying different tactics? Sure, I can only hit 10mil on stage one and barely breaking 100mil on a credit, but I'm able to enjoy my own progress without having to mimic a superplay. Eventually I may decide to look at a video for some reference and tips but not for the first couple months I am still learning the game at my own pace.

The ESPgaluda2 strat board needs division between Omake, Arrange, 360/arcade, and Blacklable anyway, its a mess last time I checked.

[Tigershark]

Am I the only person who enjoys figuring out strategy by actually playing the game and trying different tactics?

There's a topic on that question alone.

It must be right that Cave don't expect you to get the rules straight away and therefore to "pay and learn".

And criticising someone for writing correctly rather than in text speak or colloquially is petty. I prefer the former than the latter but there's room for both on the forums. The poor chap only has 9 posts to his name and what a nice welcome we gave him.

[roker]

And criticising someone for writing correctly rather than in text speak or colloquially is petty. I prefer the former than the latter but there's room for both on the forums. The poor chap only has 9 posts to his name and what a nice welcome we gave him.

I'm sorry dude. "Correctly" as you're stating is subjective. His writing was hindering his ability to communicate well. It's superfluous and lacks rhythm.

Nobody told him to leave. Then again, this is the internets. It's serious business.

[roker]

Would anyone hold it against me if I said I've enjoyed ESPGaluda II more than Ketsui so far?

[Chacranajxy]

Alright, I finally ordered the game from NCSX... glad I was able to get the first print so I can have the soundtrack. It's been a long time since I've really put any time into a shmup, so I'm expecting to get rim-rocked.

[Plasmo]

Am I the only person who enjoys figuring out strategy by actually playing the game and trying different tactics? Sure, I can only hit 10mil on stage one and barely breaking 100mil on a credit, but I'm able to enjoy my own progress without having to mimic a superplay. Eventually I may decide to look at a video for some reference and tips but not for the first couple months I am still learning the game at my own pace.

It's rarely about mimicking the moves, it's more about understanding the game. Some of the strategies shown in superplay DVD's for example, would peobably take years to find out on your own. Why not watch the replay and enjoy the game a thousand times more AND get a good score?
If you don't watch any videos, maybe that's the reason why your score is so low. But if you're enjoying the game there's nothing wrong with that, of course. After all, this should be the main motivation to keep going.
I wouldn't fully enjoy a game, if I couldn't get a high score at the same time. That's why I watch replays, simple as that.

[msm]

i watch replays and still get rubbish scores, still enjoy it though ^ as said that's what it's all about

For 360 mode, my current high score for Stage 1 is like 4M or something. Meanwhile I'm reading that people can get at least 30/40M and some can get beyond 60M in the same stage. If I can't get 1/15th the score of some of the best players, then clearly there's some major misunderstanding I have of the game.

i only get ~4m on stage 1 too, but anyway, one of the things you're probably missing are the enemies that you shoot a little then leave them alone and they spew out loads of bullets that you can use for lots of gold/points. explaining what these look like is tricky for me, (like people have already said it's much easier to undersatnd if you watch videoes) they tend to come down from the top in groups of 3 in a sort of triangle formation, one on the right side of the screen then left then right (or visa versa?).

[GaijinPunch]

I disagree to an extent. The guide has very detailed information about how all the game's functions work but, outside of boss battles and how to do certain specific things like find the extend or the gold fountain, gives no basis behind when to do anything in any given situation at all.

There are at least two reasons why it doesn't tell you "when" to do everything

1: B/c then it would be a strategy walkthru, and let's face it, walkthru's are fucking lame as shit.
2: The strategy guide was written as different scoring patterns were emerging, so the highest scoring pattern was always changing. Besides, pulling off the highest scoring patterns is extremely hard.

[Icarus]

OK, so we're still in the "watch the videos you dumbass" phase. Maybe I should have wrote the initial post to say "I've watched the videos a million times and I don't perfectly understand what's going on in them", because if I did that I would still be in the same state as I'm in now and that would still lead to me coming here to ask questions.

If you're having problems understanding the system, then take a look at a simplified explanation starting here (and for an answer to your comments on watching replays, read my post at the top of the linked page).

I disagree to an extent. The guide has very detailed information about how all the game's functions work but, outside of boss battles and how to do certain specific things like find the extend or the gold fountain, gives no basis behind when to do anything in any given situation at all.

Espgaluda 2 has a very free system that lets you pick and choose scoring strategies, especially compared to something restrictive like Dodonpachi Daioujou. I personally know of three different routes to handle stage1, and all of them can score over 40mil, but after practicing them for a few days, out of the three methods I can only score consistently over 40mil with one of them.

Therefore, in summary, while a point-by-point guide to advanced scoring techniques would be of some use to many, in effect it'd be quite useless to you, if you're lacking in the basic skills of system knowledge and fluid control required to execute them.

For a player just starting out with Espgaluda 2, it would be more beneficial to play with custom strategies, to try and get a feel for how to juggle all the main control modes (Normal, Kakusei, Zetsushikai and Over) before you start to look up more advanced techniques like pulling 40mil+ from stage1.

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[Skyline]

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[Plasmo]

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[roker]

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WE MUST FIGHT!

[heavy liquid]

Video of the iPhone version of Espgaluda II:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU_mEzgc ... r_embedded

And a bit more info on the iPhone version:

http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2010/04/cav ... to.php?utm

Likely the biggest for the iPhone in some time now (the platform has been pretty quiet lately: shoot'em-up specialist Cave will release an iPhone edition of its bullet hell arcade/Xbox 360 game Espgaluda II this Saturday with a "special commemorative" of $4.99, which will increase to $8.99 shortly after the game's launch.

Espgaluda II features the arcade remake, and iPhone mode that introduces a new "Awakening Pulse" technique, three difficulty levels, three control options, three playable characters with different strengths and weaknesses, and OpenFeint support for achievements and online rankings.

Before those of you who bought your iPhone back in 2007 clear your weekend schedule to devote April 10-11 to playing the hectic shoot'em-up, you should note that Espgaluda II is designed to be played on 3GS handsets and the 32/64GB iPod Touch models. You can find more information and media on the game at Espgaluda II's recently launched site.

[Square King]

34/64 gb ipods only? So my baby 8gb can't handle the shmup love? I am disappoint.

[jonny5]

34/64 gb ipods only? So my baby 8gb can't handle the shmup love? I am disappoint.

ya...thats kinda lame....not that i was all that interested in playing a danmaku game with a touchscreen....

[heavy liquid]

True, not sure how great a touchscreen version would be. Still, for $5 bucks I'd try it out... if I had a 32/64GB iTouch.

[dmauro]

Not surprised it's 3G only. But also excited that I have a 3rd gen iTouch even though I know the controls are going to be awful.

[MrPopo]

Not surprised it's 3G only. But also excited that I have a 3rd gen iTouch even though I know the controls are going to be awful.

I'm assuming that the old iPhone/iPod Touch is limited by the older hardware. I wonder if the game explicitly locks out old ones or of it just chugs. If it chugs it might still be worth downloading just as a novelty.

[Jockel]

First generation iPhone here

[heavy liquid]

Not surprised it's 3G only. But also excited that I have a 3rd gen iTouch even though I know the controls are going to be awful.

I'm assuming that the old iPhone/iPod Touch is limited by the older hardware. I wonder if the game explicitly locks out old ones or of it just chugs. If it chugs it might still be worth downloading just as a novelty.

If it's like their other software, it'll be locked. You'll be able to buy it, but you won't be able to sync it and put it on an older iTouch.