LG W2246PM 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor {Tateable}

[Ride88]

LG W2246PM 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor {Tateable}

Just seen this , if anygood for anyone here .

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/14259727/ ... oduct.html
http://lgcommercial.com/content/downloa ... 016_PR.pdf

REMARKABLE DFC 30000:1 RATIO
5MS RESPONSE TIME
BUILT-IN SPEAKERS
TILT ADJUSTABLE STAND
INTEGRATED f-ENGINE
(picture-quality enhancing chip)
VESA™ COMPLIANTWALLMOUNT
EPA ENERGY STAR ® 5.0QUALIFIED

[Ed Oscuro]

I don't see anything on The Google about its input lag, other than a 'user' review on the page for another product (site tricks Google) and some stuff in Polish. I don't even see basic information like its panel type (Twisted Nematic, H-IPS, S-IPS, whatever). The product PDF mentions a "INTEGRATED f-ENGINE (picture-quality enhancing chip)" which surely will make the panel slower; you will want to turn that off if possible when gaming, I'm sure. It is probably a TN though - relatively fast, cheap, but also low quality.

For what it's worth, my SyncMaster 107t served me pretty well for a few years (I've finally retired it off to somebody else, I hand-calibrated it for gamma recently and it seems to be doing fine) but I hardly ever used the rotate function (which was the aspect that sealed my decision to buy it, along with the 1600x1200 resolution and 4:3 format) due to the horrible inconsistent color throughout the screen. Even sitting right in front of it there is a notable (though not life-ending) difference between the color at one part and another. The viewing angle is very restricted, and turned on its side one part of the screen is already starting to invert to the polarized image. Sitting at a normal desktop distance from it, the resolution and size were adequate in landscape (normal) mode to MAME on.

My thought currently is not to buy a monitor for general purpose that also serves as an arcade gaming monitor. If it's just a PC work and gaming monitor, it'll probably be OK, but already there are differences between most "gaming" and "pro" monitors that you have to make severe compromises to color and accuracy or to speed (or spend a lot of money). LG's advertising is very basic, though, and doesn't specify the intended use of the panel, so without more info it seems like guesswork. It looks like it's not totally crap though.

[gray117]

er ... lol the lg website says tn

Anyway, TN panels that tate very badly do not usually come with tiltable mounts: finally could be a TN panel suitable for tate [apparently they exist - I've been trying to bug some av contacts on this recently]? ... That being said I wouldn't buy before seeing...

Picture enhancing chip means f-all - every lcd has one of some type... the blurb on this is just about contrast/color management - nothing outstanding, makes me think they're just trying to talk up some standard tech - especially on a cpu monitor where faithful color reproduction is more of an issue - pretty sure it won't greatly effect lag...

[Ed Oscuro]

er ... lol the lg website says tn

Do you have a link, please? I didn't see anything earlier. I still don't see anything here. I looked at the product sheet, actually, the PR sheet (double and triple checked twice now) which beyond the basic features (size, resolution) is really just marketing drivel (we have a special name for the electronics every manufacturer puts in their panels, the FCC won't confiscate your monitor, LG complies with international standards, yadda yadda). I don't doubt that it's a TN panel (it's certainly not IPS at this price and some of the specific features like viewing angle count out some technologies as well); it's more the point that there's not a lot of details, not a lot of user testimony. I know the gaming sites like to review panels outside most peoples' budgets but this one doesn't seem to have much of a following.

My experience leads me to disagree with what you're saying about monitors with a pivoting (not tilt) base usually having TN panels without horrible color and brightness shfits. I bought a 204B (also TN, designed in roughly 2005) partly for its rotating panel and never could stand to use it rotated to portrait / single page mode. Even viewing it head-on in the normal configuration, color and intensity shift is starting to become visible. (I'm typing on it right now.)

LG's site and the PR sheet specify the W2246SM / PM 19" and 22" have a 170 / 160 degree viewing angle, and the 160 degree seems to be the specification for the 22" PM model (that or they've split up vertical and horizontal angles which could be the case; they were lazy in either case). That is either exactly the same or just ten degrees more than the 204B, which would help the problem but might not make it disappear entirely. I think it's beyond being supercritical on my part; with the vibrant colors of arcade games (either through MAME or via an upscaler) the color shifting on a rotated 160 degree viewable panel like the 204B WILL drive people nuts, if LG is measuring this like Samsung did with the 204B. This panel is nearly half a decade newer than the 204B, but it's also just about as expensive as the 204B is still today (cheaper than the 204B was in 2006).

I'm not ready to say "too good to be true;" I'd like to see some more information. Perhaps the panel is sourced by LG for some third party monitor manufacturers.

[gray117]

http://www.lg.com/uk/it-products/monito ... 2246PM.jsp

^ specifications tab -> panel type

[Ed Oscuro]

Oh boy, regional sites. Thank goodness somebody linked it before pretending it was there for all the world to see.

Next time you could save us all some time by linking directly to it.

p.s. It's probably crap for rotating.

[ZOM]

Who in their right mind puts a TN panel on a pivot stand? The vertical viewing angle is just too narrow on those things.
Is this really common practice for some manufacturers?

[Ed Oscuro]

I assume it's done to give "full page" displays for programmers and other users of text where color and brightness consistency is not the main consideration. It's still pretty sad, I think...