XRGB-3

[Chacranajxy]

Huh? There's english firmware for the XRGB-3?

[Konsolkongen]

Yes akumajo got through to the Micomsoft people who made an english firmware based on the translation on the Wiki. Works really well.

http://www.micomsoft.co.jp/xrgb-3.htm

[Chacranajxy]

Wow. That's fantastic. While I won't feel quite as awesome navigating a menu I can actually read, it'll be nice to have an idea of what I'm actually doing without referring to a translation guide.

[sanni]

Need some help here, please.
I now have a XRGB-2. I also have a jap. N64 which was RGB modded by Wolfsoft, it also has a cable with build in rgb booster. TV is TH42PX80.
Now my problem is that the screen looks dull, the colors look faded. I want more color.

I set my TV to maximum color and contrast, that helped a little but it's lacking the wow-effect.
In the menu of the XRGB I found settings for black, blue, green, gamma and brightness but saturation is not there.

Also the power switch on my XRGB is broken, you have to keep pressing it all the way down if you want it to stay on. As soon as you let go the XRGB turns of but the switch remains in "ON" position. Any idea how to fix that?

[Chacranajxy]

So I finally got an RGB cable for my Playstation 2, and I hooked it up to the XRGB. It probably would be great, except that the screen is basically entirely green. How does one fix that problem? I'd fuck around with the PS2's settings, but I don't actually have a controller with me for the time being...

[speedlolita]

So I finally got an RGB cable for my Playstation 2, and I hooked it up to the XRGB. It probably would be great, except that the screen is basically entirely green. How does one fix that problem? I'd fuck around with the PS2's settings, but I don't actually have a controller with me for the time being...

Don't worry about that, it's a menu option.

You just need to set the video output of the PlayStation via the system menu to RGB from component.

[Chacranajxy]

So I finally got an RGB cable for my Playstation 2, and I hooked it up to the XRGB. It probably would be great, except that the screen is basically entirely green. How does one fix that problem? I'd fuck around with the PS2's settings, but I don't actually have a controller with me for the time being...

Don't worry about that, it's a menu option.

You just need to set the video output of the PlayStation via the system menu to RGB from component.

Cool. That's what I figured it was, but problems like this are rarely so simple.

But from what I could tell, the output seemed a lot clearer than it did over component. Which would be great.

[speedlolita]

It should be RGB is awesome.

Being in europe we get it natively.

[Konsolkongen]

Would it be possible to add a rotate screen option to the B0 mode of the XRGB-3? Personally i can TATE my screen all day long but for everyone else who can't this would be a very nice feature i think

[RGB32E]

Would it be possible to add a rotate screen option to the B0 mode of the XRGB-3? Personally i can TATE my screen all day long but for everyone else who can't this would be a very nice feature i think

That would be a cool feature! I know that most of the commercial Panasonic plasmas have that feature built into the display itself! I haven't tried out the feature, since I do not own such a model (nor any other plasma - I "strongly dislike" phosphor lag). Also, the black level rises on Panasonic plasmas (2~4x) upon inital usage (funny video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE3Mp89xHOg

I would think a tated PVM or candy cab would be ideal....

[Konsolkongen]

Lol great stuff

[akumajo]

hi guys

dont know if you noticed but fixed firmware is available since a few days (D2zoom bug fix)

D2ZOOM was changed to PSP.

http://www.micomsoft.co.jp/xrgb3_update ... 2eRev2.exe

[RGB32E]

While this is a little bit off topic, I think this device was incorrectly reviewed... though Fudoh could properly test (via black magic bridge):
http://kotaku.com/5505009/wii-upscaler- ... definition

Seems like a promising device, but the evaluation was completely tarded... lets see if you guys can spot the holes!

The best way I've found to play the Wii on my XBR8 is by converting the component output to RGBHV (via Extron CVC300), and finally to the PC input.

[Fudoh]

highly unimpressive review indeed. I really can't tell any difference from the comparison screenshots (different black levels aside). I'm more amazed at the fact that they even try to built a Wii-dedicated 1080p upscaling chip into a cable than over the fact that it hardly does anything for the picture.

I hardly play any Wii, but when I do I've got a hard time to figure out the best way to connect it. I've switched a lot between running through a DVDO upscaler, through the Optoma, through the XRGB and directly into the display through a YUV-VGA transcoder. The results somehow differ from game to game and it's hard to decide which looks best. Eventually I always wonder again what Nintendo did to the video encoder. The Wii's 480p signal im simply among the worst any system can go. The graphics are ridden by jaggies and fuzzy edges. Really no comparison to a PS2's 480p signal or a DC via VGA.

[Konsolkongen]

A while ago i compared the video signal from the Wii and GameCube both running F-Zero GX in 480p using original component cables.

GameCube: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/ ... 1269984687
Wii: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/ ... 1269984709

The picture from the GameCube is great, probably the best component from last generation. The Wii's picture is washed out and there is a noticeable ghosting/shadows on the left side of the menu boxes.

[RGB32E]

A while ago i compared the video signal from the Wii and GameCube both running F-Zero GX in 480p using original component cables.

GameCube: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/ ... 1269984687
Wii: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/ ... 1269984709

The picture from the GameCube is great, probably the best component from last generation. The Wii's picture is washed out and there is a noticeable ghosting/shadows on the left side of the menu boxes.

Well... I know that a RGB modded component cable (GCN @480p) looks like crap on my XBR8 for some reason... on a CRT it's just fine.

[SGGG2]

A while ago i compared the video signal from the Wii and GameCube both running F-Zero GX in 480p using original component cables.

GameCube: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/ ... 1269984687
Wii: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/ ... 1269984709

Is that running through the Optoma? Looks fantastic. Gamecube component @ 480p is total crap directly to my TV, the XRGB transcoding is okay, I guess -- the HD Box Pro does a decent job, though.

Strangely enough, my experience with GC HD has been the exact opposite of yours. The Xbox looks the best, followed by PS2, the Gamecube is less detailed and washed out.

[Chacranajxy]

So for the original Xbox, I've still got composite cables. They suck. Would it be smarter to get RGB or component cables for that? I really want to play through Jet Set Radio Future and Orta again...

[Fudoh]

Get component cables, so you can set your XBox to 480p.

[Konsolkongen]

Is that running through the Optoma?

No that was just directly to my tv. Running it through the Optoma looks better but i didn't have mine at the time and now i don't own a Wii anymore.

[RGB32E]

No that was just directly to my tv. Running it through the Optoma looks better but i didn't have mine at the time and now i don't own a Wii anymore.

OT but, you might find yourself getting another Wii once M:OM is released! (That's when I'll start using mine!)

[Konsolkongen]

Liked the GBA games but i never did bother to complete Metroid Prime. Right now i'm struggling to get through Super Metroid on the SNES which seems like a good game but there is nothing really that keeps me coming back.

Needless to say i think that the Castlevania series is a lot better. Just completed Order of Ecclesia a few weeks ago. That was a great game

I can't see myself buying a Wii until it has gone cheap and retro. There is just so much malware and so few good games that it's unbelievable. Sorry if i upset anyone by saying that

[Konsolkongen]

Can someone explain to me why i can't get a picture from my Saturn in 480i@60Hz using the Optoma and S-video cables? It works fine when i switch to 50Hz. I'm guessing it has something to do with my Saturn being European but i don't get why exactly this is an issue as it works fine on the XRGB-3.

[Fudoh]

The Optoma probably only knows real NTSC and real PAL. The signal you get from your modded Saturn is a mix of both. Resolution is NTSC, but the color carrier frequency is that of a PAL system. Sometimes it's called PAL60. If you use RGB instead it should work. But is it worth it ? Which Saturn games running in 480i are worth playing ?

[Konsolkongen]

DecAthlete, Virtua Fighter 2 and Fighters MegaMix. Unfortunately the timing is almost impossible to get right in DecAthlete because of the deinterlacing delay. You are right the cable switching isn't worth it but i was just testing the S-video quality on the Optoma and found it strange that it didn't work. What you say makes perfect sense though.

I don't know if this is related or not but the few times i have tested the composhite inputs on the XRGB-3 the picture has been black and white only. Tried with a fully modified EU SNES and a modified JAP MegaDrive 1 both set to 60Hz. Again this is not really important but if the composhite picture is a little better than usual (doesn't cause eye cancer) it might be worth using when i get a Famicom. Swapping the videochip from the Playchoice seems a bit overkill to get RGB, but it might be necessary one day

[Fudoh]

Tried with a fully modified EU SNES and a modified JAP MegaDrive 1 both set to 60Hz

your EU SNES definitly has the same problem. No idea about the japanese MD1 though. Do you maybe have an Asian PAL version instead of a real japanese one ? Those have been around in huge numbers in Europe in the late 80s and early 90s.

Swapping the videochip from the Playchoice seems a bit overkill to get RGB, but it might be necessary one day

Na, do this! It's really worth it.

[Konsolkongen]

No the MegaDrive is definitely Japanese. I had it sent from a guy in Japan a few years ago

[Konsolkongen]

I know i've been going off topic for a while now But is this really the size of the NES videochip?
http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?PH ... 3#msg10933

That shouldn't be too hard to remove and swap with the other one

[Fudoh]

yes, it's giant. Very easy to solder. What do you expect from an early 80s graphics processor

[Konsolkongen]

I was expecting some surface mounted tiny thing. People always make such a big deal about this mod, and really its not too different from region modding a Mega CD. Only difference is you have to be careful not to ruin the video chip from the Playchoice when removing it. I'm gonna try this mod sometime

I'm guessing the video chip is the same size in the japanese Famicom right?