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PC Engine Fan X! wrote:For shmup-o,

There isn't any switch on board viletim's Scart to Jamma adapter to swtich your Excellena's monitor to the correct orientation. You'd have to check on the monitor's chassis board perhaps to see if it is possible to flip monitor screen orientation to your liking. It's odd to hear that your monitor tates clockwise rather the traditional anti-clockwise of say like an Egret 29 or an Egret II's proper tate setup. Most candy cabs do tate in the proper orientation, of course, but there are a few oddball ones that don't do so.

FYI: Some console based shmup titles do have a "flip" option listed in the Options screen to flip the screen 180 degrees in the opposite direction if you do have such a monitor that tates clockwise issue. And vice versa with some arcade shmup PCBs as well with the handy "flip" screen orientation option.

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Thanks! I asked Dave_K about it and he mentioned that the Namco candy cabs rotate clockwise to allow for the older Namco PCBs that rotated that way. Makes sense! I didn't even know it was an issue until now because I figured out how to flip all of my PCBs!!
neorichieb1971 wrote:Take the monitor off its stand, rotate the swivel, put monitor back on, then its the right way round.


That was what Dave_K did as well - I think I'm going to try to extend the wires first, then disassemble if it doesn't work.

Thanks guys, sorry for going off topic!
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I've tested the scart to jamma adapter with other amplifier and the buzzing sound is always here :cry:

Do you think that the adapter can be faulty?
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The adapter sounds faulty.
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Just got mine set up with my dreamcast.
The adapter rules. I suggest anyone interested in this to pick one up. Worth every penny. Thanks so much!
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dpful wrote:Just got mine set up with my dreamcast.
The adapter rules. I suggest anyone interested in this to pick one up. Worth every penny. Thanks so much!

Dpful, have you tested the stereo output with an amplifier? How is the sound? Did your hear a buzzing sound coming out from the speakers?

I've sound problem with my adapter, perhaps i'm not the only one having this awful sound ... :( .
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jfs wrote:I've tested the scart to jamma adapter with other amplifier and the buzzing sound is always here :cry:

Do you think that the adapter can be faulty?

does your cab have a switch to choose between JAMMA or RCA/amplifier? maybe both are being fed to your speakers.

also, what other amplifier are you using to test? a home stereo?
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My cab is a EGRET 3 and yes there's a switch for mono or stereo via RCA . I'm using dreamcast and atomiswave slot (modified with rca out) and the sound is very good without this awful "Buzz".

I've tested with my egret 3 and with a home amplifier and the result is the same...
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No, I'm just using the cabs speaker (mono)- sound is great. I'll try and check out the RCA's and see what happens... could something be too near your power supply? that could cause a buzz. things for troubleshooting buzz, if you havn't already thought of them:

Position of wires, components, stuff to close to other stuff.
connection (if something was coming back through the jamma harness from the cab that was messing it up?)
levels? if you've got the stereo to high and the volume on the converter too low
grounding probs- if the cab and the amp are on different plugs, I had a buzz problem in my studio for a long time and found that an amp had a plug installed with the polarity switched.
Power supply shooting funny juice.

If there's any wall plugs in the mix that can be plugged in in reverse (sometimes the monitor is on a plug like that), that might help. Of course, I suppose it could be your converter, but I think audio buzz is usually the result of things besides the amp (bad juice, position, or bad grounding). You could expiriment with grounding-- hold a wire between the converter's ground and other grounds- or the outside of the RCA plug and different grounds (like the cab body).
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dpful wrote:Power supply shooting funny juice.
i wonder if the supply isn't putting out good 12V because the 5V isn't fully loaded.

jfs, have you tried the white power resistor on the 5V rail (bridge 5V and ground with it)
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antron wrote:
dpful wrote:Power supply shooting funny juice.
i wonder if the supply isn't putting out good 12V because the 5V isn't fully loaded.

jfs, have you tried the white power resistor on the 5V rail (bridge 5V and ground with it)

No, not tried the white power resistor! I will try it tomorrow...
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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!! the sound works great now!!


Just because a faulty rca audio cable! :x :x

Thank you for your help guys. :D
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Ok got mine now, tried hooking up my Wii and US SNES via chinch to scart adapter (using obviously the scart plug, not the rgb one)...
sound gets through to the cab, but no picture with both.

Am i just doing something wrong or could i have a faulty adapter?
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Jockel wrote:Ok got mine now, tried hooking up my Wii and US SNES via chinch to scart adapter (using obviously the scart plug, not the rgb one)...
sound gets through to the cab, but no picture with both.
What's a 'chinch to scart adapter'?
Jockel wrote:Am i just doing something wrong or could i have a faulty adapter?
If your adapter is faulty it would be the first...
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Jockel wrote:Ok got mine now, tried hooking up my Wii and US SNES via chinch to scart adapter (using obviously the scart plug, not the rgb one)...
sound gets through to the cab, but no picture with both.

Am i just doing something wrong or could i have a faulty adapter?
Dude, chinch to scart adapter is composite and NOT rgb. Get a proper RGB cable and it will work fine.
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THE wrote:
Jockel wrote:Ok got mine now, tried hooking up my Wii and US SNES via chinch to scart adapter (using obviously the scart plug, not the rgb one)...
sound gets through to the cab, but no picture with both.

Am i just doing something wrong or could i have a faulty adapter?
Dude, chinch to scart adapter is composite and NOT rgb. Get a proper RGB cable and it will work fine.
Yeah i assumed since there are two ports (one labeled scart, the other labeled RGB) it should work with the non-rgb port.

@viletim: does composite to scart sound more logical to you? in germany a lot of people are calling composite cables "chinch". sorry for the confusion.
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Jockel,

It's an RGB video amplifier, not a composite video decoder. Beleive me, you don't want to use composite video when RGB video is a option. Some new RGB SCART cables should not be difficult to find.
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Just me being stupid again. I'll report back once i get bloody RGB cables.
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Jockel, you can have my rgb-cable for the testing bit... (If needed)
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i already ordered one off the net, but yeah be my guest if... you wanna be my guest... uhm...
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OK my RGB cable reached me now, it's def. an RGB Signal (tested with my TV) - but its still not working with the adapter.
Not even sound this time around.
Any other ideas what could be wrong?
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Jockel wrote:OK my RGB cable reached me now, it's def. an RGB Signal (tested with my TV) - but its still not working with the adapter.
Not even sound this time around.
Any other ideas what could be wrong?
does it work with any consoles you've tried? are you using the power resistor?
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So far i just tried it with the 360 RGB cable, and the Wii via Composite (stupid, i know- but at least sound worked).
Other than that, no RGB cables available :/
Screw the HD age and it's digital cables. ^^"

And sorry, what power resistor? I'm pretty noobish at this "electronics" stuff. ;D
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Jockel wrote:So far i just tried it with the 360 RGB cable, and the Wii via Composite (stupid, i know- but at least sound worked).
Other than that, no RGB cables available :/
Screw the HD age and it's digital cables. ^^"

And sorry, what power resistor? I'm pretty noobish at this "electronics" stuff. ;D
did the 360 work?

was there a little white ceramic thing with two wires sticking out in the packaging with the adapter?
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antron wrote:did the 360 work?

was there a little white ceramic thing with two wires sticking out in the packaging with the adapter?
360 works and the cable is too.
uhm and no there was no ceramic thingie... i'll have to kill my girlfriend if she threw it away.
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Jockel wrote:
antron wrote:did the 360 work?

was there a little white ceramic thing with two wires sticking out in the packaging with the adapter?
360 works and the cable is too.
uhm and no there was no ceramic thingie... i'll have to kill my girlfriend if she threw it away.

if the 360 works then you don't need the power resistor.

you said you tested the new SNES SCART cable with your TV to see that it was a RGB signal. how do you know, does the TV indicate RGB mode, or can you tell by the quality?

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where did you get the SNES RGB cable? If it's a European cable, it may not work with a US console:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/eviltim/ ... t.htm#snes

I bet yours is a Euro cable, as the US one was probably never even sold.
If you can get a PAL Gamecube SCART cable try that, it is very similar to what the US SNES would be.
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Jockel wrote:uhm and no there was no ceramic thingie... i'll have to kill my girlfriend if she threw it away.
You wouldn't dare if she was a hottie, right? And still no pics of her face to go along with her fine figure? Gotta say you have a cool sense of humor. Just ask viletim for another white ceramic resistor and all will be good. ^_~

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antron wrote:
Jockel wrote:
antron wrote:did the 360 work?

was there a little white ceramic thing with two wires sticking out in the packaging with the adapter?
360 works and the cable is too.
uhm and no there was no ceramic thingie... i'll have to kill my girlfriend if she threw it away.

if the 360 works then you don't need the power resistor.

you said you tested the new SNES SCART cable with your TV to see that it was a RGB signal. how do you know, does the TV indicate RGB mode, or can you tell by the quality?

edit:
where did you get the SNES RGB cable? If it's a European cable, it may not work with a US console:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/eviltim/ ... t.htm#snes

I bet yours is a Euro cable, as the US one was probably never even sold.
If you can get a PAL Gamecube SCART cable try that, it is very similar to what the US SNES would be.
I think you misread that or i wasn't stating it clear enough > i ran both the SNES and the Wii through composite to scart adapters and both sent sound. the 360 however doesn't even send sound, but the cable and the box are fine.
The TV automatically switches to any RGB source if it gets a signal- it does not when it's just a composite signal.
Plus i can check it in the TV settings, so no doubt my xbox360 cable sends RGB.

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Jockel wrote:the 360 however doesn't even send sound, but the cable and the box are fine.

I see. what's "the box"?
also, is it an official 360 SCART cable?
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antron wrote:
Jockel wrote:the 360 however doesn't even send sound, but the cable and the box are fine.

I see. what's "the box"?
also, is it an official 360 SCART cable?
Is that "you're" girlfriend's "box", Jockel?
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antron wrote:
Jockel wrote:the 360 however doesn't even send sound, but the cable and the box are fine.

I see. what's "the box"?
also, is it an official 360 SCART cable?
Eggsbawks 360 is "the box".
Nope its not the official 360 SCART cable, it's an RGB cable made by HAMA.
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