Censorship in shmups

Battletoad · Post by **Battletoad** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:45 pm

Couldn´t find a topic to this... uh topic.
This thread can be used for every censorship issue in shooters.

I recently found out that the PAL version of Gunbird 2 (Dreamcast) has the multiplayer endigs from Ayne with any other character cut out. Well actually not cut out, but the rape pictures are just a black screen with the text. Now I´m just curious... does anybody know if the US version is uncensored? I especially want to know this because I´m making some entries for a German games database.

antron · Post by **antron** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:13 pm

I hope they censor the character selection screen of Pink Sweets if it gets a 360 port.

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:47 pm

antron wrote:I hope they censor the character selection screen of Pink Sweets if it gets a 360 port.

NO.

antron · Post by **antron** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:15 pm

ncp wrote:
antron wrote:I hope they censor the character selection screen of Pink Sweets if it gets a 360 port.
NO.

do you live in Japan?

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:26 pm

robthebanks · Post by **robthebanks** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:32 pm

Battletoad wrote:I especially want to know this because I´m making some entries for a German games database.

Suuuurrrre. Your secret is safe with us.

captpain · Post by **captpain** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:05 pm

I need to find games like this for a ... project i am doing you see because um

Battletoad · Post by **Battletoad** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:12 pm

Yeah whatever...

Just if anybody knows about it wants to test it (2 player mode can be done by 1 player), I will appreciate it. If not, no problem.
I´d also like to get the uncensored version sometime and I´d prefer US over JAP for this game.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:17 pm

PS2 port of Ibara is a grade-A offender in this category.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:20 pm

antron wrote:I hope they censor the character selection screen of Pink Sweets if it gets a 360 port.

Wait, what...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTr6osYut2c

I don't see anything offensive on the character select screen. Are you high?

antron · Post by **antron** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:59 pm

Zweihander wrote:
antron wrote:I hope they censor the character selection screen of Pink Sweets if it gets a 360 port.
Wait, what...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTr6osYut2c

I don't see anything offensive on the character select screen. Are you high?

yes, yes I am. Make that Muchi Much Pork. thanks

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:07 am

BUT BUT BUT FAT LOLIS!!111

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:32 am

I have no idea what caused the T rating in Gradius 5.
Yet still...green blood.

I don't get it.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:33 am

DJ Incompetent wrote:I have no idea what caused the T rating in Gradius 5.

I don't get it.

What the hell?

God · Post by **God** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:55 am

There is a sperm-to-eyeball switcheroo in R-Type 3.

I have no idea what caused the T rating in Gradius 5.
Yet still...green blood.

I don't get it.

Doesn't look cartoony enough. Seems like PG is the minimum rating for anything live action.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:04 am

Pretty much, the sole disclaimer is "Mild Fantasy Violence"...

BTW, "hell" and "damn" aren't enough to get a Teen rating since Eternal Eyes (a somewhat cartoonish SRPG) got through just fine for Everyone even with those words in its script. I guess ESRB mostly subscribes to the 7 dirty words before slapping on a "Strong Language."

BIL · Post by **BIL** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:31 pm

What perplexes me more about Gradius V's T rating is, R-Type Final got an E. Maybe GV's "space poon" level > Final's coupling silhouettes. Then again Silent Hill 2 didn't receive a disclaimer for sexual content, so maybe the ESRB are just retarded. And I don't give a shit about them either way tbh.

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:47 pm

Gradius V is rated 3+ in the UK. I would say that's because PEGI are sensible but they gave XII Stag a 12+ rating and Gunbird Special Edition is 7+ despite containing quite a few references to paedophilia.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:23 pm

Castle Shikigami II got an E despite some references to sex or other adult-ish things.

Maybe the ESRB couldn't tell because of that hack translation though.

Zero Gunner · Post by **Zero Gunner** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:08 pm

Zweihander wrote:
antron wrote:I hope they censor the character selection screen of Pink Sweets if it gets a 360 port.
Wait, what...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTr6osYut2c

I don't see anything offensive on the character select screen. Are you high?

I think he means the character select screen seen here (at about 29 seconds):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTIFrDfDbio

...to which I also say NO! Cave character art is often poor but this is pure sexy in the Masamune Shirow/ Hyung-tae Kim kind of way and I say LEAVE IT BE SCHOOL BOY!

Now I want a 360 port immediately! With an LE that includes shooting-action-ronrey-love pillow-get!!!

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:18 pm

Cave character art is often poor

not seeing how junya inoue, tomoyuki kotani, haccan, etc is "often poor"

Zero Gunner · Post by **Zero Gunner** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:33 pm

lgb wrote:
Cave character art is often poor
not seeing how junya inoue, tomoyuki kotani, haccan, etc is "often poor"

Some of it is very nice (like Ibara) but then there's instances of this....

Ugghhh. People can calm down for crying out loud. There's no need to circle the wagons and defend the sacred cow! Good grief....

Observer · Post by **Observer** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:57 am

Come on, people, I keep seeing Ketsui's poster bashed all over. I mean, that's the manliest thing Cave ever did, a proper tribute to Cho Aniki and probably their last scream of masculinity and macho attempts before they sunk deep into dangerous terrain, jumping the bandwagon (years later) after Card Captor Sakura dealt severe damage to people in Planet Japan. Or something like that. Or nothing like that.

Ok, don't take that seriously 'cause it isn't.

If we are talking of silly censorship/alteration, in RayCrisis there is a boss called "Sem-slut" and that was changed to "Sem-strut" for the western releases. Not a big deal really.

I wonder how they would handle something like Artesneit stuff... both the hentai stuff and the H.R. Giger weirdness.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:01 am

Observer wrote:I mean, that's the manliest thing Cave ever did, a proper tribute to Cho Aniki

I don't think I'd be able to contain my joy if they ever actually did this.

To actually semi-contribute to the topic, it's not a "pure" shmup, but if memory serves the original Japanese release of "Pocky and Rocky" on the SNES featured a possibly-topless harpy boss (a bit tough to tell from the sprite), which was changed to a rather silly-looking armored knight with bird legs and pink wings in the US version.

BIL · Post by **BIL** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:11 am

^Reminds me of this ugly sprite retouch from the EU Gokujou Parodius (SS Deluxe Pack).

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:27 am

(See infamous character portrait on the right)

"PROPORTIONS? WHAT ARE THOSE?"

esreveR · Post by **esreveR** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:58 pm

BIL wrote:What perplexes me more about Gradius V's T rating is, R-Type Final got an E. Maybe GV's "space poon" level > Final's coupling silhouettes. Then again Silent Hill 2 didn't receive a disclaimer for sexual content, so maybe the ESRB are just retarded. And I don't give a shit about them either way tbh.

They probably weren't leet enough to get to the end of Final.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:52 am

Zero Gunner wrote:

...what is wrong here

is this another "ZUN art is bad" thing

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:15 am

lgb wrote:...what is wrong here

is this another "ZUN art is bad" thing

My guess is the shitty proportions.

And ZUN's art is objectively bad. He must feel like shit to see so many people on Pixiv draw his characters better than he ever could. Maybe he should stop the whole "drinking + character sketch + put sketch in game" thing.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:58 pm

Zweihander wrote:ZUN's art is objectively bad

can someone please explain this

am I really the only person who doesn't see what the problem is

no actually I can explain it just fine

the "problem" with both this poster and ZUN art is that people are in love with proportions, in art. hahahahahaha

it's not some three-year-old drawing with a box of crayons here (deviantart)

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