Espgaluda II

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Dumbass question:
Selecting between original and arranged OST is done in the first main screen option menu before you select which version of the game you play. Your options are All Original, All Arrange, and Normal <?>, which only gives you the remixed tracks for Black Label I think. Once you have selected a game mode the sound menu has is darkened simply to let you know which music will play... kinda lame, but that seems to be the way it works.

About the included OST - I had my hopes up for a double disc OST similar to the one Futari included, the pack in left me wishing it was the full lineup of tracks, and my favorite remixes were left out as well. Oh well, better luck next time I suppose.
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You can't just "try" Omake

I half heartedly was playing it and next thing you know it's the 3rd stage

I was shocked when I finally lost my first life, then I went through and 1cc'd it

I'm sure there's something there to the scoring system, but like I said earlier, I think I'll stick the 360 mode right now

The additional modes though keep the game interesting by giving you so much variety.
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-Tried to play arrange mode but I feel like an idiot cause I can't get my score anywhere near that 100000000 default highscore.
-Prefer Black Label to Original at the moment though I have absolutely no idea what I'm supposed to be doing in either. Everytime I try to do that Kakusei Plus or whatever I run out of gems and get huge swarms of bullets to dodge for my trouble. The superplays made it look so supereasy.
-For Original I said "fuck it" and play that mode on Overdrive only. I get my ass kicked about the same or even slightly less than when the bullets are flying at normal speed.
-Omake I'm so busy staring at huge multipliers that I don't even know if I'm doing anything wrong...nor do I care.
-I'm so hopelessly lost in all of the modes.
-I'm loving every minute of it.
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-Tried to play arrange mode but I feel like an idiot cause I can't get my score anywhere near that 100000000 default highscore.
Don't worry too much about high score in Arrange until you 1CC it a bunch. By doing so you'll increase the rank which allows for more points. Keep in mind that by 1CC the game by using 1P you'll increase regular mode rank, and with 2P (hit "back button" at title screen) you'll increase the kakusei rank. Once your playing at rank 5*5 you should be able to reach 100million no problem, try hitting 1billion!

Nothing made sense to me when I started playing too, helps to stick with one mode for a couple days to get the feel for it.
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Can anybody lay out the strengths and weaknesses of each character for me?

I was playing as Seseri for a little bit in Black Label, and it seemed like she was a lot less powerful than Tateha, but I still managed to get a really high score. So I was wondering if she had a better chaining bar to cope with dealing less damage, or if her shot does more damage than her laser, or any of those things. Maybe I just had a particularly good run, I dunno.
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My copy arrived today, so I'm hoping to check it out later tonight. Is this region-free, or do I need to pull out the import console?
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Special World wrote:Can anybody lay out the strengths and weaknesses of each character for me?

I was playing as Seseri for a little bit in Black Label, and it seemed like she was a lot less powerful than Tateha, but I still managed to get a really high score. So I was wondering if she had a better chaining bar to cope with dealing less damage, or if her shot does more damage than her laser, or any of those things. Maybe I just had a particularly good run, I dunno.
Seseri =/= Tateha > Ageha > Asagi

Seseri's kakusei is really strong, but difficult to control (down = up). Tateha's kakusei's autofire is extremely strong, easier to control with too. Ageha's laser does the most damage in that category, but his kakusei is weak. Asagi's kakusei's laser is strong, but everything else about her is weak.
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@_@

so what about when theyre not in kakusei mode?
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professor ganson wrote:My copy arrived today, so I'm hoping to check it out later tonight. Is this region-free, or do I need to pull out the import console?
Region-free if you got the SE, region-locked if you got the LE.
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Special World wrote:@_@

so what about when theyre not in kakusei mode?
Ageha > Seseri =/= Tateha > Asagi
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Special World wrote:Can anybody lay out the strengths and weaknesses of each character for me?

I was playing as Seseri for a little bit in Black Label, and it seemed like she was a lot less powerful than Tateha, but I still managed to get a really high score. So I was wondering if she had a better chaining bar to cope with dealing less damage, or if her shot does more damage than her laser, or any of those things. Maybe I just had a particularly good run, I dunno.
XBOX 350 mode: I prefer Ageha for this because you need to be able to move around to get up close for the point blank shots to get extra gems. The strong laser is good for when you're getting pushed back to the bottom of the screen and need to take out a big enemy.

Black Label: You've gotta go with Seseri for this I think. I believe she gets extra gems from enemies and produces more suicide bullets that move faster. Her kakusei laser is badass so you'll take out the bosses nice and fast in over mode.

Omake!: I like Tateha for this one because you don't need to be zooming around the screen and the wide shot is helpful for hitting enemies on one side of the screen while you're trying to buzz bullets to turn red on the other side of the screen.
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Why would I want to be in over mode in BL?

Over Mode is something I havent really thought about at all.

But I did think Seseri was getting more stuff, so I guess Ill give her more of a shot.

I dont actually go into Kakusei during boss battles in BL, I assume that's a sin of some sort?
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Regular Over mode drops the chain meter slowly. Zetsushikai Over causes the needle bullets to spawn which you can cancel to snarf up a bunch of extra gems when you are out.

Also keep in mind the characters are very different between the regular game and BL mode.
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drunkninja24 wrote:
professor ganson wrote:My copy arrived today, so I'm hoping to check it out later tonight. Is this region-free, or do I need to pull out the import console?
Region-free if you got the SE, region-locked if you got the LE.
Ah, that's right. Huge thanks for the reminder!
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Gwyrgyn Blood wrote:Regular Over mode drops the chain meter slowly. Zetsushikai Over causes the needle bullets to spawn which you can cancel to snarf up a bunch of extra gems when you are out.

Also keep in mind the characters are very different between the regular game and BL mode.
Black Label: Okay so do I ideally want to kill a bunch of shit before the boss, then go into kakusei mode to slow depletion of my meter so I can retain my combo for the boss and get more points? And then I guess exit Kakusei over right when I'm about to kill the boss?

I wish I had my xbox hooked up right now so I could just view replays -_-

Then again I sorta wanna get a feel for it myself, just with a little guidance.
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Special World wrote: Black Label: Okay so do I ideally want to kill a bunch of shit before the boss, then go into kakusei mode to slow depletion of my meter so I can retain my combo for the boss and get more points? And then I guess exit Kakusei over right when I'm about to kill the boss?

I wish I had my xbox hooked up right now so I could just view replays -_-

Then again I sorta wanna get a feel for it myself, just with a little guidance.
You don't HAVE to exit Over mode, you'll cancel the bullets even in it. Something that works is to just cruise into the boss in Over and stay in it the whole time. You just won't get the gems you would in Normal mode, or all the extra cancel points you would for Kakusei mode. Mess around with it and see what works best.

I'll also mention that some patterns are actually a lot easier in Over mode than in normal mode!
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I thought you didnt get gems and gold in Over mode

but I guess that doesnt matter in some situations...

fuck man this game is so much stuff.

I'm considering beating novice to unlock omake but I at least wanna get to the last level. So far I can only reach Stage 5 :\

Dont wanna play arrange to do it either.
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Special World wrote:I thought you didnt get gems and gold in Over mode.
The modes operate a little differently during boss fights.
Kakusei = Bullets cancel and you get a ton of extra cancels/gold.
Over = Bullets cancel as in Normal Mode, chain meter drains really fucking slow.
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Well fuck me that's good to know :D

Okay so playing as Seseri in BL has given me even more (!) respect for this game. I play her basically completely opposite of how I played Ageha. And for a scrolling shooter, that is fucking awesome news.

However, this leads to one huge problem. I can absolutely dominate my 1st level scores, and I'm almost able to get the first extend on stage 1. However, it tapers off a little bit after that. The reason is that level 1 has those awesome enemies that you can de-shell so they spew out spiral waves of suicide bullets. The levels after that have move smaller enemies and the larger enemies dont work as well as those guys. And from what I can tell, Seseri loses a lot more gems that Ageha does from shooting enemies (does Ageha even lose any gems from shooting things in K mode?) and I can't keep up the frenzy from the first level. That area in level 2 with all the enemies helps if I mow down the smaller guys but leave the huge guys open for Kakusei, but I dont think I get as many points there as I would with Ageha. And then by the end of stage 3 I'm pretty much at the same score as Ageha would have at that point. Any tips to get around this? Am I missing something obvious or is it just a fact of life?

At any rate, fuck yeah ESPgaluda 2.

Also thanks for answering all of my questions Gwyrgyn, Elixir, and Dmauro!
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playing casually i've reached 1 billion with rank 0

i'm such a monster of arrange modes
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Just got home and there it was laying on my doorstep. Just had a quick first go, but oh boy what is this different compared to the original ESPGaluda. I think it would take me lots of time to even survive the first bit, let alone 1cc it.
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This chaining bar is soooooooo fickle.
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Anyone else still waiting on their Standard Edition to arrive...?
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Zweihander wrote:Anyone else still waiting on their Standard Edition to arrive...?
Hopefully not, but try here:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30158
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Is there a generally accepted best time to level up your kakusei in 360 mode?
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I would think that unless you're using the tutorial glitch, you should throw yourself into over mode as soon as you start. It's pretty easy to get your gems back to the default levels since you'll be mostly done by the time anything significant appears.
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I go into over during the stage 1 midboss seeing as I use up all my gems in zetsushikai on those first four flying turrets and won't be able to get much out of the others if I bomb the midboss.
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Special World wrote:Is there a generally accepted best time to level up your kakusei in 360 mode?
The #1 replay for 360 mode shows that YOZ switches and stays in over mode towards the end of stage 1 before destroying the last big cannon (just after he reaches 50 million points!!!), so I'd try doing that if I were you.
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Amazing game. While I have enjoyed Death Smiles a bit more, this one is just crazy.
Best mode IMO is Black Label by far. I think I love Yagawa (if BL is his mode).
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