Rambling shmups talk

[kid aphex]

this week, our entire show is dedicated to shmups, and filled with talk guaranteed to enrage a few heads around here. first part of the show is up, and the others will be posted later this week.

for fans of shmup music, listen with headphones

www.podcast198x.com

[Square King]

Awesome. Gotta say that I've disagreed with you guys on many points in previous podcasts, but I'll definitely give this one a spin.

[kid aphex]

Awesome. Gotta say that I've disagreed with you guys on many points in previous podcasts, but I'll definitely give this one a spin.

thats most of the fun with podcasts

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Im just about to listen to it now. I give my Thx cos anything about shmups is appreciated

[mrtie]

Pretty good listen so far, but you really need to let the inhuman sadistic evil of Raizing games seep into your heart.

[kid aphex]

man, i wish i could, particularly batrider...because its one of the coolest looking shmups ive ever seen
occasionally i credit feed it just to see all the art /shame

[TrevHead (TVR)]

ive just finished listening to it, youve got a pritty good podcast there. Its got a good banter between you 2. Ive subbed it and put links to it aswell.

Is there any other shmups podcasts out there? what im idealy after is 2 or more ppl descussing shmups in a detailed way. Like delving into the scoring mechanics of a certain game or descussing their viewpoint on chaining, cheap deaths etc, basically the more indepth topics that come up on this forum. Ive yet to listen to anything like this for shmups which is a shame imo.

[kid aphex]

ive just finished listening to it, youve got a pritty good podcast there. Its got a good banter between you 2. Ive subbed it and put links to it aswell.

Is there any other shmups podcasts out there? what im idealy after is 2 or more ppl descussing shmups in a detailed way. Like delving into the scoring mechanics of a certain game or descussing their viewpoint on chaining, cheap deaths etc, basically the more indepth topics that come up on this forum. Ive yet to listen to anything like this for shmups which is a shame imo.

unfortunately, i dont know of any either. sean and i typically delve into pretty esoteric aspects of games...which, if you continue listening to the rest of the shmup podcast, you'll find plenty of examples of. i am not the best shmup player ever...but when new releases come out, i try to talk about them in as much detail as possible---particularly indie developed shmups, as they're typically free and drop more often than big name products. the more well-known vg podcasts aren't very hardcore...as elitist as that sounds, and as undefinable as it is

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Sure ive nothing wrong with podcast / blogs which talk about shmups in a more general sense. If its intresing (which your podcast from what ive heard so far is) then im happy that the topic is about shmups since there are so few podcasts or good blogs that talk about it

[Rob]

Enjoyed this. You covered a lot of different things in mostly chronological order - are the following two continuing with recent releases, or will you be skipping around?

[kid aphex]

it continues in mostly chronological order for the next part, and in the third one we talk about where the genre is headed and where we'd like to see it go

[BulletMagnet]

I don't usually listen to podcasts and such, but I couldn't resist the prospect of hearing someone talk about shmups for an hour and a half straight - looking forward to the next part.

[Gozer]

A nice surprise this week with a shmup only podcast.

I'm glad to hear that one of you is a big fan of Layer Section. It's definitely my favorite Saturn shooter. I've never got a chance to play Raystorm yet. I'm just gonna wait for the HD release.

You two got me into wanting to buy Silpheed and Blazing Lazers now.

I have a feeling you two are going to be discussing G.rev in the next part.

[EPS21]

BIG DIRTY TONKA TRUCK TOAPLAN

[Square King]

I have a feeling you two are going to be discussing G.rev in the next part.

And Treasure.

[Danbo]

Cool thing, I hope you give more time for talking about Raizing/Yagawa games in the next parts because there's quite a bit to talk about technically there.

Where are the other parts, anyway?

[kid aphex]

part 2 is up now...sadly, not much Raizing love
its just a result of personal preference---its by no means an ULTRA THOROUGH look into the genre
still, hope you all enjoy it

[kid aphex]

ps, i refer to treasure as Cave by mistake, when discussing the parade of bosses that is radiant silvergun

[Udderdude]

ps, i refer to treasure as Cave by mistake, when discussing the parade of bosses that is radiant silvergun

You do know we're going to have to kill you now, right? >_>

[Voxbox]

I really enjoyed the second part. It was full of love for great games.

Too little Raizing though, and you never mentioned the fish-theme as one of the most awesome things about Daruis.

[captpain]

Why did you have to call Ikaruga the Beautiful Masterpiece of the shmup genre? Christ's sake, what is it with even small-scale gaming media and that piece of shit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAO6akjqdg forever and ever

[Danbo]

The line "You either do or you don't see the beauty in something that is sorrowful" does not belong in a shmup podcast

[kid aphex]

Why did you have to call Ikaruga the Beautiful Masterpiece of the shmup genre? Christ's sake, what is it with even small-scale gaming media and that piece of shit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAO6akjqdg forever and ever

if a game, as art, touches me emotionally ... i've got to say something about it
gameplay aside, ikaruga, to me, is transcendental
opinions --- relax

[Rob]

I like how you praised the graphics in Mars Matrix. Everyone says it's ugly.

[clp]

Why did you have to call Ikaruga the Beautiful Masterpiece of the shmup genre? Christ's sake, what is it with even small-scale gaming media and that piece of shit?

+over 9000

[Voxbox]

gameplay aside, ikaruga, to me, is transcendental

Absolutley. The presentation is just incredible, and the way it ties into the gameplay is just fantastic.
The game is a masterpiece, but that doesn't mean that it's the pinnacle of the genre at all. The gameplay and scoring system is so tight and well thought out that it borders on the puzzle genre, making it even more niched than shmups in general.

[replayme]

ive just finished listening to it, youve got a pritty good podcast there. Its got a good banter between you 2. Ive subbed it and put links to it aswell.

Is there any other shmups podcasts out there? what im idealy after is 2 or more ppl descussing shmups in a detailed way. Like delving into the scoring mechanics of a certain game or descussing their viewpoint on chaining, cheap deaths etc, basically the more indepth topics that come up on this forum. Ive yet to listen to anything like this for shmups which is a shame imo.

unfortunately, i dont know of any either. sean and i typically delve into pretty esoteric aspects of games...which, if you continue listening to the rest of the shmup podcast, you'll find plenty of examples of. i am not the best shmup player ever...but when new releases come out, i try to talk about them in as much detail as possible---particularly indie developed shmups, as they're typically free and drop more often than big name products. the more well-known vg podcasts aren't very hardcore...as elitist as that sounds, and as undefinable as it is

the only podcasts (regularly) i listen to are 'rebel fm' and 'mobcast'. on occasion i also listen to '4guys1up', 'a life well wasted' as well as 'gamers with jobs' (although i don't like it as much as i used to).

what tips would you give to someone who wants to put out a SOLO podcast as opposed to having a group of mates over?

ta x

[captpain]

Why did you have to call Ikaruga the Beautiful Masterpiece of the shmup genre? Christ's sake, what is it with even small-scale gaming media and that piece of shit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAO6akjqdg forever and ever

if a game, as art, touches me emotionally ... i've got to say something about it
gameplay aside, ikaruga, to me, is transcendental
opinions --- relax

You don't get to spout a ridiculous string of pseudo-philosophical gibberish about the hilariously pretentious, juvenile, and cliched aesthetics of A GAME and then say "Opinions, relax!"

And gameplay aside? Gameplay aside????? In a shmup???

[kid aphex]

You don't get to spout a ridiculous string of pseudo-philosophical gibberish about the hilariously pretentious, juvenile, and cliched aesthetics of A GAME and then say "Opinions, relax!"

And gameplay aside? Gameplay aside????? In a shmup???

were my opinions "pseudo-philosophical" because we were discussing "games"?
or just "pseudo-philosophical" in general?
could you define "pseudo-philosophical" or are you just regurgitating a cliched meme because of its particularly venomous connotations?

i'm sort of interested in what you feel makes the game's aesthetics "pretentious, juvenile, and cliched",
though im fairly confident you're ignorant of at least some aspect of the game's history/design/culture of origin

[Udderdude]

gameplay aside, ikaruga, to me, is transcendental

What does it transcend, the giant hole in your head?