XBOX 360 HDMI 1080p grayed out...

[GateofThunderforceIII]

Hello all! So I've been here in Bahrain for a little over two months and my place is furnished with a pretty nice Elekta 42" LCD Flat Screen that says Full HD 1080. I have my Slim PS3 hooked up to it via the Sony brand HDMI cable and set it up with all HD settings checked and even the TV says it runs in 1080p when it does. I bought a US Call of Duty MW 2 Limited Edition 360 the other day with some M$ brand HDMI cables. While trying to set up the video, everything is selectable up to 1080i, but 1080p is grayed out. I've googled this, but only ran into threads that got derailed to talking about HDMI brands and no solutions. Is there anyone here that is knowledgeable about this? I would appreciate it.

[GateofThunderforceIII]

Oops. Forgot to say, I then hooked up a third pary component cable to the TV and I was able to set it to 1080p (but looked really blurry). So, manufactured on Oct 09 XBOX 360 HDMI NO 1080p, but Component YES 1080p. ????

[antron]

I bet the 360 is testing what modes are achievable (or at one time did) and 1080p failed. Maybe there is a way to force a re-check. Also, did you try a different HDMI port?

[neorichieb1971]

Could be a number of reasons, more like a handshake problem with the cable. Try the PS3 cable on the 360 and report back your results.

In theory any screen that has no HDCP chip inside it is not allowed to display 1080p, but since the PS3 works, thats not going to be the case.

Make sure your not using some extra length beast of a cable, sometimes they dropout on 1080p and make sure there are no kinks in the cable either.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

If your console isn't displaying in 1080p, could it be your maximum HD setting isn't set to 1080p? Or some games don't display in 1080i/p but rather in 720i/p at best (this is true with some PS3 games nowdays).

My 32" Sharp HDTV can accept 1080p from both HDMI & component video inputs without any problems. I'm using Monster Cable branded HDMI cable setup...you definitely get what you pay for.

Let's say if you hook up a PS3 to an older HDTV monitor that can only display up to 1080i at best, then 1080p option won't be selectable whatsoever (even if said PS3 game can run in 1080p format, it'll only display at 1080i at best). Just something to keep in mind.

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[drunkninja24]

If your console isn't displaying in 1080p, could it be your maximum HD setting isn't set to 1080p? Or some games don't display in 1080i/p but rather in 720i/p at best (this is true with some PS3 games nowdays).

My 32" Sharp HDTV can accept 1080p from both HDMI & component video inputs without any problems. I'm using Monster Cable branded HDMI cable setup...you definitely get what you pay for.

Let's say if you hook up a PS3 to an older HDTV monitor that can only display up to 1080i at best, then 1080p option won't be selectable whatsoever (even if said PS3 game can run in 1080p format, it'll only display at 1080i at best). Just something to keep in mind.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

I would strongly disagree with that, but that's for another topic. But just know HDMI is HDMI unless you're running a massive length of cable. I'm gonna say that it's likely a handshake issue between the TV and the 360. But trying another cable could never hurt, there could be connectors that aren't making a full connection or something. The 360 is capable to doing 1080p and displaying all games in 1080p (though upscaled), so it isn't a system limitation. Worst case scenario, I'd stick it on 720p. Unless you have an HD-DVD drive, you're not gonna be using the full 1080p resolution anyway, and games will pretty much look the same at 720p.

[antron]

Cables matter, at least for my Samsung LCD. I have an $10 el-cheapo that won't do 1080p (I get snow). My $15 one is fine. Was the cable ever crushed in a spot?

[PC Engine Fan X!]

If your console isn't displaying in 1080p, could it be your maximum HD setting isn't set to 1080p? Or some games don't display in 1080i/p but rather in 720i/p at best (this is true with some PS3 games nowdays).

My 32" Sharp HDTV can accept 1080p from both HDMI & component video inputs without any problems. I'm using Monster Cable branded HDMI cable setup...you definitely get what you pay for.

Let's say if you hook up a PS3 to an older HDTV monitor that can only display up to 1080i at best, then 1080p option won't be selectable whatsoever (even if said PS3 game can run in 1080p format, it'll only display at 1080i at best). Just something to keep in mind.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

I would strongly disagree with that, but that's for another topic. But just know HDMI is HDMI unless you're running a massive length of cable. I'm gonna say that it's likely a handshake issue between the TV and the 360. But trying another cable could never hurt, there could be connectors that aren't making a full connection or something. The 360 is capable to doing 1080p and displaying all games in 1080p (though upscaled), so it isn't a system limitation. Worst case scenario, I'd stick it on 720p. Unless you have an HD-DVD drive, you're not gonna be using the full 1080p resolution anyway, and games will pretty much look the same at 720p.

If I used some cheap-ass composite video cables with my TurboGrafx-16 along with Turbo Booster accessory, the video quality isn't very good but will be a bit sharper and more defined if I use Monster Cable brand composite video cables. Try it yourself and see what I mean. Of course, this would pertain to using it on a older 4:3 type of SDTV setup for best results. I do know that a modded TG-16 or Turbo Duo with RGB output is the way to go compared to RCA composite video and/or S-Video mod.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[drunkninja24]

If your console isn't displaying in 1080p, could it be your maximum HD setting isn't set to 1080p? Or some games don't display in 1080i/p but rather in 720i/p at best (this is true with some PS3 games nowdays).

My 32" Sharp HDTV can accept 1080p from both HDMI & component video inputs without any problems. I'm using Monster Cable branded HDMI cable setup...you definitely get what you pay for.

Let's say if you hook up a PS3 to an older HDTV monitor that can only display up to 1080i at best, then 1080p option won't be selectable whatsoever (even if said PS3 game can run in 1080p format, it'll only display at 1080i at best). Just something to keep in mind.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

I would strongly disagree with that, but that's for another topic. But just know HDMI is HDMI unless you're running a massive length of cable. I'm gonna say that it's likely a handshake issue between the TV and the 360. But trying another cable could never hurt, there could be connectors that aren't making a full connection or something. The 360 is capable to doing 1080p and displaying all games in 1080p (though upscaled), so it isn't a system limitation. Worst case scenario, I'd stick it on 720p. Unless you have an HD-DVD drive, you're not gonna be using the full 1080p resolution anyway, and games will pretty much look the same at 720p.

If I used some cheap-ass composite video cables with my TurboGrafx-16 along with Turbo Booster accessory, the video quality isn't very good but will be a bit sharper and more defined if I use Monster Cable brand composite video cables. Try it yourself and see what I mean. Of course, this would pertain to using it on a older 4:3 type of SDTV setup for best results. I do know that a modded TG-16 or Turbo Duo with RGB output is the way to go compared to RCA composite video and/or S-Video mod.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

But those are analog signal cables. Cable quality can definitely make a difference in picture quality there. HDMI, being digital, doesn't make a difference, as the signal is either high or low, nothing in between. As long as the bits get from point A to point B, you're good. I've always purchased HDMI cables from monoprice.com, and there is literally no difference in the picture quality between those and Monster cables from friends of mine have purchased. The markup on retail cables like those is absolutely insane (which makes sense, considering that cables are where stores like Best Buy really make their money, not TVs themselves).

BUT, there are different HDMI versions, it may be possible that his cable is not built to support 1080p signals. I would also swap the cables around and see what happens.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

The latest HDMI cable specs rated at version 1.3 for right now. I keep seeing this new 1440p HD format...seems like it will surpass the current 1080p format later on.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[neorichieb1971]

HDMI 1.0 - HDMI 1.0 combines a digital video signal (standard or high-definition) with a two-channel audio signal over a single cable, such as between an HDMI-equipped DVD player and Television.

HDMI 1.1 - This version adds the ability to transfer not only video and two-channel audio over a single cable, but also added the ability to transfer Dolby Digital, DTS, and DVD-Audio surround signals, as well up to 7.1 channels of PCM audio.

HDMI 1.2 - This version of HDMI adds the ability to transfer SACD signals in digital form from a player to a receiver.

HDMI 1.3 - This version includes improvements in both audio and video capability. With the advent of Blu-ray Disc and HD-DVD, version 1.3 adds the ability to transfer the digital bitstreams for the new high resolution audio formats: Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS-HD.

HDMI 1.3a - In addition to the above audio improvements, HDMI 1.3 and 1.3a increase the amount of video bandwidth that can be transferred from a source to a display. This means, that in addition to the standard 24-bit color depth we are used to, HDMI 1.3 and 1.3a have the ability to transfer color depths up to 48-bits, and can accommodate resolutions much higher than the 1080p resolution standard that is in use today.

HDMI 1.4 - HDMI version 1.4 adds practical enhancements for HDMI connectivity. If home theater components, such as HDTVs, Blu-ray Disc players, and Home Theater Receivers, are HDMI 1.4 enabled, one or more of the following features can be implemented:


1. HDMI Ethernet Channel: This adds internet and home network connectivity to HDMI. In other words, both Ethernet and HDMI functions are available within a single cable connection.

2. Audio Return Channel: This may be the most practical application of HDMI 1.4. What this feature provides is a single HDMI connection between a TV and a home theater receiver that can not only pass audio/video signals from the receiver to the TV, but also pass audio originating from the TV's tuner to the receiver. In other words, when listening to audio accessed by the TV's tuner, you don't need a separate audio connection going from the TV to the home theater receiver.

3. 3D Over HDMI: Although standardized specifications for 3D are not finalized, HDMI 1.4 is designed to accommodate whatever standard is finalized, with the capacity of passing two simultaneous 1080p signals using one connection.

4. 4Kx2K Resolution Support: Although the current high definition standard for consumer equipment tops out at 1920x1080 (1080p), HDMI 1.4 can accommodate future 3840x2160 and 4096x2160 high definition pixel resolutions now in the planning stages.

5. Expanded Support For Color Spaces: This allows better color reproduction when displaying digital still photos from HDMI-connected Digital Still Cameras.

6. Micro HDMI Connector: Just as mini-USB is employed with portable digital devices, a new "Micro HDMI" Connector is much smaller connector that can still supports up to 1080p resolutions for portable devices. This is very practical for video camcorders, digital still cameras, and portable digital video playback devices.

7. Automotive Connection System: With the increase of in-car digital audio/video devices, HDMI 1.4 can handle the more demanding vibration, heat, and noise that may affect the quality of audio and video reproduction.


3D playback via blu ray/PS3 will require 1.4. However, any TV sporting the new 3D logo will obviously have 1.4 built in.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Just last month, the Blu-Ray Disc Association agreed on a single standard for 3-D via HDMI and still be playable on standard Blu-Ray players. The only major upgrade will be the new upcoming 3-D HDTV monitors to use this new digital 3-D signal standard. Looks like a super crisp HD 3-D version of James Cameron's Avatar will finally be available for home viewing as it was meant to be seen. Of course as usual, the early adopters are going to pay through the nose with the new fangled 3-D HDTV monitors.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Endymion]

Back to the OP's issue: what is the native resolution of your HDTV? If it is not 1920x1080, it is possible that your digital input just cannot handle 1080p. I have come across several screens that work this way. If its native resolution is something off the standard, like 1366x768, this goes double. Your 360 can definitely handle 1080p, and the cable is not likely the limiting factor unless defective or damaged, suspect your TV and look for its specs.

[gray117]

pft ... 360's will drop some fps in 1080p resolution - play in 720p ... System lacks available bandwidth and memory in most configurations to really provide properly for 1080p...

HD and how its sold = big mess ... best not to mention that a many games on both 360 and ps3 are rendered at 720p or even lower and upscaled anyways...

/end rant ...

[sorry - it just irks me...]

[system11]

Yeah I just run my 360 in 720P now on a 1080P set. I have a splitter half way along, the 360 definitely does some kind of handshaking, I had to power cycle the splitter sometimes to get 1080P re-enabled when switching.