Xbox 360: Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 (November 2009)

[Rupert H]

I'm a bit out the loop with this thread as a boring press embargo has stopped me taking my 360 online for a while

why that? have you played a yet unannounced game with your gamertag?
other than that i couldn't think of any sane reason why you shouldn't be allowed to go online.

You should have a secondary gamertag for that dude. Games that I actually play for work and pleasure I do on my main tag, but a secondary one is perfect for titles under embargo, or those that are simply too embarssing to have linked to your name.

[sjewkestheloon]

Had a damn good session tonight on BL Original and I'm starting to reach the stage 3 boss with consistency. I can take him down with 1 or 2 bombs but would rather not use so many. For some reason I really struggle with his first few patterns. I find his second and third forms a lot easier for some reason.

Either way I destroyed my previous score and now stand at 99.3 million. Can't believe how close I was to the extend!

[agustusx]

Did anyone notice that it looks like someone counterstopped Ultra Arrange on the leaderboards? His score is twice the others, checking replay now...

EDIT: I thought the S2 boss milking was a tad boring but I saw it got worse at the end. So it looks like he got maybe 2 billion by the time he hit S5, 3 billion before the last boss, and 7billion for milking the S5 boss. Total 10billion-1. The counter stopped sometime during the last boss form.

[moonshine]

I far prefer Original 1.5 to Original BL. I just feel the fast turnover from green to blue and back in 1.5 provides a more exciting, satisfying game.

I agree, I got BL recently and I feel that the BL original mode is inferior to 1.5. I don't think the difficulty needs dumbing down and I feel as though the scoring mechanic has taken a back seat now. It's much more exciting to use in the original 1.5.

[gs68]

On the flip side, BL Maniac is IMO more enjoyable than 1.5 Maniac, because holy shit i can actually keep my chain meter in the red

[Schrodinger's cat]

On the flip side, BL Maniac is IMO more enjoyable than 1.5 Maniac, because holy shit i can actually keep my chain meter in the red

Ha, that was my first impression as well. Then I spent some time playing 1.5 Maniac and I haven't gone back since. They're both excellent modes, but 1.5 feels a little more rewarding when you score well IMO. Who knows, maybe I'll get back to BL after I'm sick of 1.5 and like it better then.

[Skykid]

I'm a bit out the loop with this thread as a boring press embargo has stopped me taking my 360 online for a while

why that? have you played a yet unannounced game with your gamertag?
other than that i couldn't think of any sane reason why you shouldn't be allowed to go online.

You should have a secondary gamertag for that dude. Games that I actually play for work and pleasure I do on my main tag, but a secondary one is perfect for titles under embargo, or those that are simply too embarssing to have linked to your name.

Ha ha, I gave up on worrying about that a long time ago. Then again I don't give a flying fuck about 360 gamerpoints or any of that silly current-gen jazz enough to worry about such trivialities.
The only points I like are shmup points.

[Necronopticous]

On the flip side, BL Maniac is IMO more enjoyable than 1.5 Maniac, because holy shit i can actually keep my chain meter in the red

Ha, that was my first impression as well. Then I spent some time playing 1.5 Maniac and I haven't gone back since. They're both excellent modes, but 1.5 feels a little more rewarding when you score well IMO. Who knows, maybe I'll get back to BL after I'm sick of 1.5 and like it better then.

I find 1.5 Maniac to be the greatest mode of Mushihimesama Futari. The relaxing of the scoring system in Black Label feels very freeing at first, but eventually you really start to notice how it undermines the design of the game. Suddenly there is no difference between popcorn enemies and large enemies and the significance of the enemy placement is almost entirely lost. Though Black Label Maniac may smooth out the learning curve a little, at the end of the day it is a few steps back, I think.

[Van_Artic]

Did anyone notice that it looks like someone counterstopped Ultra Arrange on the leaderboards? His score is twice the others, checking replay now...

that guy does crazy stuffs, i've already seen his replays in Ikaruga hard mode, it's great

[postman]

Just noticed something, and sorry if this has been mentioned, but I don't have time to read 30 pages of thread

If you go into the Black Label download via the game itself, the download is listed as FREE. Under the marketplace, it's 1200 points......

Has anyone tried to DL via the game itself to confirm this little oversight?

[ncp]

There is no download there.

edit: by that, I mean it won't let you do anything from there.

[postman]

On mine (US system), it lets you go all the way up to confirm download, which I didn't want to try because that's a lot of points.........

so you're saying even if you confirm from here, it tries to get the Japanese version? But was theirs free?

[ncp]

On a Japanese system, it goes to a "confirm download" window, and if you try to download it, nothing happens, it won't download anything. It's probably the same on a US system.

[gs68]

So basically, I wasted $15 on junk modes? >:

God dammit, this is the worst investment I've made since Star Soldier R.

[Vally]

I don't normally post on these forums, infact I can't remember the last time I logged in. I'm a huge lurker and follow the forums quite a lot.

Got me some Mushi Futari and Deathsmiles for Christmas, and i've been playing Mushi absolutely non-stop solid. Now i'm not exactly a shmup expert, i'd say I was intermediate, but Black Label Original now holds very special meaning to me for being the first ever Cave 1CC i've accomplished.

Frustratingly, I got 3 higher scores getting to Larsa beforehand and not managing to take her down!



Just thought i'd share that with you guys, i've become one of you now!

[gs68]

Nice 1CC...now go do it on a real (1.5 or 1.01) mode because that doesn't count.

[Vally]

1.5 Original is my next goal. I'll be needing a lot more luck for that one though.

[Momijitsuki]

Nice 1CC...now go do it on a real (1.5 or 1.01) mode because that doesn't count.

Yeah, that's really encouraging.

[Vally]

Haha, it's all cool. I'm looking forward to it!

I learned quite a lot of new things that i'd never really put into practice with other shmups before (aimed bullet herding as mentioned in the previous page) so i'm looking forward to seeing where my practice will get me in the 'real mode' without the OTT slowdown.

[gs68]

Nice 1CC...now go do it on a real (1.5 or 1.01) mode because that doesn't count.

Yeah, that's really encouraging.

Whatever.

To anyone who doesn't have BL yet: don't buy it, please. You have better things to spend 1200 MSP on besides a crappy expansion pack.

[Zoel]

I have the PCB before getting the console version. I actully can't play 1.5 it has to be Black Label. Guys get Black Label instead.

[EPS21]

Nice 1CC...now go do it on a real (1.5 or 1.01) mode because that doesn't count.

Yeah, that's really encouraging.

Whatever.

To anyone who doesn't have BL yet: don't buy it, please. You have better things to spend 1200 MSP on besides a crappy expansion pack.

Oh boy the "BL is crap and the changes could be programmed in 5 minutes, horrible waste MS points, damn Cave for porting their games" argument again

Tell me more

[gs68]

Oh boy the "BL is crap and the changes could be programmed in 5 minutes, horrible waste MS points, damn Cave for porting their games" argument again

Tell me more

See above posts. Original is now easy for a mentally challenged person who cannot 1CC TFIII to clear, and Maniac's scoring is now as deep as mashing potatoes.

I guess you could download BL if you want...if you lack common sense, that is.

[Momijitsuki]

Is there a reason why you're being a dick, or does it just come naturally for you?

[Necronopticous]

Original is now easy for a mentally challenged person who cannot 1CC TFIII to clear, and Maniac's scoring is now as deep as mashing potatoes.

God Mode is worth the purchase price of the game and the Black Label DLC ten times over.

[SFKhoa]

See above posts. Original is now easy for a mentally challenged person who cannot 1CC TFIII to clear, and Maniac's scoring is now as deep as mashing potatoes.

I guess you could download BL if you want...if you lack common sense, that is.

Obviously, you're not good enough at the game to realize how good Black Label is.

[CptRansom]

Shit, I can't 1CC BL Original.

I must be retarded.

brb, suicide

[evil_ash_xero]

For some odd reason, I can make it to the last boss on 1.5, but so far I have only made it to stage 4 on BL. Weird.

[SFKhoa]

Now now, the only thing that's retarded here is the rank that gets thrown at you in Original BL.

[sjewkestheloon]

Now now, the only thing that's retarded here is the rank that gets thrown at you in Original BL.

I was just about to say the same thing. The boss patterns in BL Original fly at you compared to 1.5 if you are on a good scoring run.

Personally I view BL as an opportunity to play a different way. I'm working on a BL Original 1cc and then I'll move onto 1.5. Posting thread after thread bitching about BL and demeaning people's achievements in said mode is pretty pathetic behavior in my opinion. Personally I'm working my arse off in BL Original and just about getting to stage 4 now.