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Has anyone played this game on the Genesis?
What are your thoughts on this game?
And what tips do you have to beat it?
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I'm moving this to Off Topic since it is a borderliner.
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Yes! I just so happen to own Capcom Generations 1 though to 4 on the good old psx and it's my favourate game on that particular disk (disk 4).

The game itself is really not very hard, normaly it's greed that kills the player for example. Charging in to the center of the screen for a weapon power-up or health recovery item (food I belive) can get you killed unless you take out some of the enemies first so that it becomes possable to dodge their bullets.

I'm not sure if you have the multitap or even if the Sega Megadrive version is three player but the more players you have on screen at once the easier the game is plus it makes driving that jeep just a little bit more fun. :)

Oh yeah one last thing, use bombs wisely! I know that's a standard issue sort of blanket strategy that get's issued with most scrolling shooting games but what I'm saying is don't be affriad to use the bomb when their are way to many enemies on screen or if you realy need that food item and there are to many people surrounding it, don;t get sucked into the whole "bomb pride" were you don't want to use a bomb "just incase", my advise is "when in doubt, blow the f**king thing up with a huge bomb!".

I hope that has helped you!
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Mercs. Yes, the graphics are downgraded on the Genny and it's limited to single player gaming unlike the impeccable SS Capcom collection conversion that features a pixel perfect TATE mode with 3 player action like the arcade. What makes the game so fantastic however, is the amazing Sega original mode. IMO the original mode stomps all over the arcade version (in all forms) when it comes to solo gaming and I feel is an overall better game regardless.
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The rocket launcher rules the last half of the game IMO- the range is unremarkable, but the splash radius makes up for that. In stages 2 and 3, it's all about the flame thrower. Today I got to the 6th stage boss on one credit but copped it right there.

Memorization is key in some parts- like in Mission 3 when you're boarding a ship. There's going to be a missile-firing turret laying in wait for you to the left of the bridge. Fire diagonally forward and left as you're approaching it.

Allow one bomb for the large boat in Mission 4. Its flamethrower is hard to dodge and is best cancelled with the Mega Crash.

Sometimes it is better to take a single bullet since you get a brief period of invulnerability after getting hit. Missiles and grenades take off a chunk of the life bar.
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The arcade version's going to be on the Capcom Collection coming out for PS2, so hold out for that one. It'll most likely be cheap.

I heard MERCS is the sequel to Commando, though in Japan they have different names...forgot them.
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LoneSage wrote:The arcade version's going to be on the Capcom Collection coming out for PS2, so hold out for that one. It'll most likely be cheap.

I heard MERCS is the sequel to Commando, though in Japan they have different names...forgot them.
Mercs is known as Commando II in JP.
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Bar81 wrote:Mercs is known as Commando II in JP.
Senjou no Ookami II, that is - the official Commando (Senjou no Ookami) sequel. Not a rip-off, not inspired by, not a clone: the second episode.

I wonder how was that in the west they didn't keep the name Commando II, after all the first was a huge hit :?:
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Turrican wrote:
Bar81 wrote:Mercs is known as Commando II in JP.
Senjou no Ookami II, that is - the official Commando (Senjou no Ookami) sequel. Not a rip-off, not inspired by, not a clone: the second episode.

I wonder how was that in the west they didn't keep the name Commando II, after all the first was a huge hit :?:
I always wondered that myself. Anyone got any idea?
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Funnily enough, I just completed this on Capcom Generations! I liked it alot, although it is quite easy (I will have to play it again on a harder setting). I don't know why, but I feel it looks like a cross between Gunbird and Total Carnage! The main problem is (on this version anyway) you always come back at the point you died, so you can just play and play and play (provided you have infinite continues on) until you beat it.

Good game though; would love to try it multiplayer sometime too.
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Bar81 wrote:
Turrican wrote:
Bar81 wrote:Mercs is known as Commando II in JP.
Senjou no Ookami II, that is - the official Commando (Senjou no Ookami) sequel. Not a rip-off, not inspired by, not a clone: the second episode.

I wonder how was that in the west they didn't keep the name Commando II, after all the first was a huge hit :?:
I always wondered that myself. Anyone got any idea?
Afair it was a licensing issue, the name was taken by another company or something. Here in Germany, the game Commando was also on a black list of titles prohibited to be sold or advertised, due to the violence displayed. Therefore, the German version of Capcom Generations doesn´t include the disk with Gunsmoke, Commando and Mercs.
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Mercs is a good conversion.

Come to mention it. I think Mercs is one of those games who got good conversion no matter what the system.
SMS version is great too!
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Bar81 wrote:Mercs. Yes, the graphics are downgraded on the Genny and it's limited to single player gaming unlike the impeccable SS Capcom collection conversion that features a pixel perfect TATE mode with 3 player action like the arcade. What makes the game so fantastic however, is the amazing Sega original mode. IMO the original mode stomps all over the arcade version (in all forms) when it comes to solo gaming and I feel is an overall better game regardless.
Amazing Sega Original mode?
WHAT?
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D wrote:
Bar81 wrote:Mercs. Yes, the graphics are downgraded on the Genny and it's limited to single player gaming unlike the impeccable SS Capcom collection conversion that features a pixel perfect TATE mode with 3 player action like the arcade. What makes the game so fantastic however, is the amazing Sega original mode. IMO the original mode stomps all over the arcade version (in all forms) when it comes to solo gaming and I feel is an overall better game regardless.
Amazing Sega Original mode?
WHAT?
YEEEAH? WHAAT? YEEEAH? WHAAT?

It's an RPG light sort of mode in which you have additional levels, additional parts of existing levels, and new bosses. You start off with your regular machine gun soldier and acquire different soldiers as the game goes on each with a specific weapon (flamethrower, laser, missile launcher, etc) which you can switch to at will. Each soldier has a specified health and when they die they become unusable until revived by buying such a thing in the shop tent. You get medals (most are hidden in secret areas to boost your trooper health, extend their health bar, acquire additional bombs, power up their weapon, etc) You can power up each soldier in weapon firepower as well as arm them with a flak jacket reducing damage, speed boots, and a gas mask (for those pesky chemical attacks :)) Basically, takes the quarter munching basic gameplay of Mercs and makes a real game out of it. Damn I used to love Sega when they didn't suck :(
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dtdg: I recently wrote an article on Mercs (with some good screenshots); it's on my site under the Articles section. Check it out if you have a chance...
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dtdg wrote:Has anyone played this game on the Genesis?
What are your thoughts on this game?
And what tips do you have to beat it?
The Genesis version is a very good arcade conversion. It's got most of the enemies, bosses & weapons from the arcade & it's not very hard to complete. It's quite straight forward & has only 1P mode.

As mentioned above it's also available in the Capcom Collection Disc for the PS-1, but personally I like the Geny version the most.
Probably for sentimental reasons as I completed it before I tried the CPS-1 version.

Midnight Resistance on the Genesis & Amiga is another good similar army game, but it's in horizontal mode rather than the 8-Way mode of Mercs.
Also try Heavy Barrel & Ikari Warriors III on the NES.
Very enjoyable games imo.
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Bar81 wrote:
Turrican wrote:
Bar81 wrote:Mercs is known as Commando II in JP.
Senjou no Ookami II, that is - the official Commando (Senjou no Ookami) sequel. Not a rip-off, not inspired by, not a clone: the second episode.

I wonder how was that in the west they didn't keep the name Commando II, after all the first was a huge hit :?:
I always wondered that myself. Anyone got any idea?
I'm wondering if the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie Commando may have had something to do with this.

AFAIR Germany did get an arcade version of Commando but the enemies were changed to aliens and it got the lame title "Space Invasion". I think SI may be a bootleg though.
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Bar81 wrote:
D wrote:
Bar81 wrote:Mercs. Yes, the graphics are downgraded on the Genny and it's limited to single player gaming unlike the impeccable SS Capcom collection conversion that features a pixel perfect TATE mode with 3 player action like the arcade. What makes the game so fantastic however, is the amazing Sega original mode. IMO the original mode stomps all over the arcade version (in all forms) when it comes to solo gaming and I feel is an overall better game regardless.
Amazing Sega Original mode?
WHAT?
YEEEAH? WHAAT? YEEEAH? WHAAT?

It's an RPG light sort of mode in which you have additional levels, additional parts of existing levels, and new bosses. You start off with your regular machine gun soldier and acquire different soldiers as the game goes on each with a specific weapon (flamethrower, laser, missile launcher, etc) which you can switch to at will. Each soldier has a specified health and when they die they become unusable until revived by buying such a thing in the shop tent. You get medals (most are hidden in secret areas to boost your trooper health, extend their health bar, acquire additional bombs, power up their weapon, etc) You can power up each soldier in weapon firepower as well as arm them with a flak jacket reducing damage, speed boots, and a gas mask (for those pesky chemical attacks :)) Basically, takes the quarter munching basic gameplay of Mercs and makes a real game out of it. Damn I used to love Sega when they didn't suck :(
Capcom collection?

I have the Capcom generation with Mercs.

My Saturn is broke and I don't recall a sega original mode.
Am I missing something? Do you have to unlock it.
I'm a big mercs fan, that's why I was blabber-mouthing.
please explain to me, why I might've missed it.

My SS broke and pending a new one I can't check it
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D wrote:
Bar81 wrote:
D wrote: Amazing Sega Original mode?
WHAT?
YEEEAH? WHAAT? YEEEAH? WHAAT?

It's an RPG light sort of mode in which you have additional levels, additional parts of existing levels, and new bosses. You start off with your regular machine gun soldier and acquire different soldiers as the game goes on each with a specific weapon (flamethrower, laser, missile launcher, etc) which you can switch to at will. Each soldier has a specified health and when they die they become unusable until revived by buying such a thing in the shop tent. You get medals (most are hidden in secret areas to boost your trooper health, extend their health bar, acquire additional bombs, power up their weapon, etc) You can power up each soldier in weapon firepower as well as arm them with a flak jacket reducing damage, speed boots, and a gas mask (for those pesky chemical attacks :)) Basically, takes the quarter munching basic gameplay of Mercs and makes a real game out of it. Damn I used to love Sega when they didn't suck :(
Capcom collection?

I have the Capcom generation with Mercs.

My Saturn is broke and I don't recall a sega original mode.
Am I missing something? Do you have to unlock it.
I'm a big mercs fan, that's why I was blabber-mouthing.
please explain to me, why I might've missed it.

My SS broke and pending a new one I can't check it
Umm. The original mode is only in the SEGA Genesis port of Mercs.
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OK, sorry I misread.

I will check the MEGADRIVE version then.
thanks and sorry. I will try 'reading' next time.

Oh yeah and Midnight Resistance rocks.
If you like Contra and you don't know about MR, you're missing out.
The MD version is OK, but the colors are unadjusted. lazy time again. But the game is pretty intact and playable. Amiga verison is a bit cleaner looking, but I'll take the MD version any day.

Will we ever see this on a compilation cd? DATA EAST compilation anyone?
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being a complete elitist-asshole-PCB-enthusiast-wanker you didnt hear his from me.. but.. the megadrive version is the best inspite of crappy graphics/sound 8)

i think ive played them all and rank goes MD> PCB > PSX...
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played Original mode last night.
GREAT.

The system of the original mode is one that I think could incorporated into more games. One life for every stage. So when you complete a stage you get one extra life.

hard though, after a few go's I ended up at the boss for level 2! pffff. hard stuff.

Are there any sites that have faqs on the game? where and what is hidden in ORIGINAL mode?
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D wrote:played Original mode last night.
GREAT.

The system of the original mode is one that I think could incorporated into more games. One life for every stage. So when you complete a stage you get one extra life.

hard though, after a few go's I ended up at the boss for level 2! pffff. hard stuff.

Are there any sites that have faqs on the game? where and what is hidden in ORIGINAL mode?
Not that I know of. Just explore every nook and cranny; they're not that hard to find although the gas masks are pretty well hidden.
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Bar81 wrote:
D wrote:played Original mode last night.
GREAT.

The system of the original mode is one that I think could incorporated into more games. One life for every stage. So when you complete a stage you get one extra life.

hard though, after a few go's I ended up at the boss for level 2! pffff. hard stuff.

Are there any sites that have faqs on the game? where and what is hidden in ORIGINAL mode?
Not that I know of. Just explore every nook and cranny; they're not that hard to find although the gas masks are pretty well hidden.
eh..... gas masks? What do they do then?
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Well, on the last level the enemies break out the WMDs on your ass so you take some wicked damage unless you have a gas mask equipped to the character you're using (and it's not switcheable, it's a permanent assignment to a character like the flack jacket so pick carefully when you do find the two available in the game)
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