Xbox 360: Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 (November 2009)

[dmauro]

So black label is actually, as a whole, easier than 1.5?

Like every mode is easier than its corresponding 1.5 mode?

I haven't tried the other modes. I've only been playing Original mode in both. The extra slowdown, the sound effect for shot change, and the less frequent shot change really make a world of difference in BL.

I'm also getting that stutter in 1.5 mode now as well. Looks like they're going to need to release a patch soon.

Well dammit. You just convinced me, and then DE-convinced me with the stutter.

Keep me updated as to when it gets fixed, I don't wanna DL BL if it'll mess up my game.

IMO it's worth it. 1.5 wasn't completely jiving with me, but BL makes a lot of sense. Of course I'm assuming this will get patched, and I suppose it's possible that it won't :/

[emphatic]

Regarding that level 5 1UP, learn to remember that big square with a "carpet" (could be mosaic as well) with a big dinosaur on it, because right after you've killed that, you just go up to the left corner and get the 1UP. Also, learn to not stay at the bottom of the screen when the 1UP is approaching, as it's kinda hard to get up to the top once it's there. If things are hectic, lay down a bomb when you collect the 1UP, as you get a bomb pickup right after the 1UP.

Too bad to hear that BL introduces stutter. How about achievements for BL, how many are they, and how many have you guys gotten so far? I guess starting a game is one, huh?

[Jockel]

this has just arrived (no 1.01 DLC ), it doesn't work in my UK 360 but does work in the Asian 360 - i seriously doubt anyone else has had this problem? i suspect my 360 is on the way out, it's pretty old, but it still reads l4d2 (and i assume the rest of my games) ok

You'd get a message if it would be a region problem.

[Geezer]

Too bad to hear that BL introduces stutter. How about achievements for BL, how many are they, and how many have you guys gotten so far? I guess starting a game is one, huh?

Yep, 5 points for starting a game I think. I also picked up something for 25 points but I wasn't paying attention. Maybe it was for getting the counter to 30,000.

[nZero]

Achievements for BL in the conveniently located Achievement Thread

[KisakiProject]

Awesome that achievements are out. Wonder what the 100 is.

Cave seems to be doing a really good job of porting to the 360.

Personally I wish there was a way to turn off slowdown just out of curiosity.

I'm really looking forward ot the ESP II port! (hopefully will be region free)

I have to say of all the 360 ports (and all the Milestone WII ports) this is without a doubt the best current gen shmup port to date.

[dmauro]

I've posted a video showing 360 mode with scanlines running on a tri-sync monitor. You can see from the video when it zooms in that the scanlines are pretty thin and faint. It would be nice if it had an actual dot by dot method of drawing it and you could black out every other line, but they look halfway decent I guess.

[lemonade]

So if I understood correctly, if I buy BL DLC, I will get stutters? I haven't got any stutters with my non-DLC version of the game so far. I guess I'll have to hold on before I buy the DLC (1200 points is also pretty much for a DLC such as this imo, but I guess I might be wrong)..

Luckily enough, there is more than enough challenge in 1.5 as it is though

[Strider77]

The stutter is minor... not a big deal.

[kid aphex]

man...what is the deal with all the graphical glitches?
seems like the more i play it, the more the glitches show up.
[not referring to the BL dlc]

[dmauro]

Regarding that level 5 1UP, learn to remember that big square with a "carpet" (could be mosaic as well) with a big dinosaur on it, because right after you've killed that, you just go up to the left corner and get the 1UP.

Thanks for the tip! Just 1CC'd Original Black Label. I was only at 350 million (old high score 400 million), but I did it. Maybe I'll move on to Maniac now.

I'm not too into the slow down penalty for going into a boss fight or large creature fight with a green counter. As you get it's health down and switch to A shot, the game speeds up way too much. I've learned on certain bosses to just not even go for the proper shot bonus if my counter is green because it's too hard.

And the level 3 boss, is there a trick to kill this guy faster? I lose so much of my counter on him.

[Jeneki]

Out of curiosity, are people getting studders or graphical glitches playing off the disc or installed on the hard drive?

There are definitely some surprises in Manic Black Label. First time playing, I died 10 seconds in to an unexpected thick barrage from something I was right next to.

[dmauro]

I'm playing from the disc, not installed. Just getting the stutter. Is anyone NOT getting the stutter? (anyone with Black Label that is)

I put up a new video showing off the 4:3 superplay screen setup I have, and showing off the fast forward function of the replays.

[agustusx]

So I assume you guys that are getting the studder are getting it in BL right? A few say in 1.5 as well? I played a credit in each mode and haven't had any issues yet. Furthest I've gotten is S4 so I don't know if that matters. I didnt get past s2 with god mode lol

[Jeneki]

Only played one round of each mode in Black Label (original/manic/god), but didn't get any studder yet. I have it installed to the hard drive if someone wants to test if that makes a difference.

There's something odd about seeing the words God Mode on the top of the screen. I wonder how long it will take some random onlooker to watch a good player and accuse them of using a "god mode" cheat.

[dmauro]

I guess no one is playing Maniac BL yet because I just got in the Reco top 20 (#19) and I don't even know how the maniac scoring system works!

[agustusx]

I guess no one is playing Maniac BL yet because I just got in the Reco top 20 (#19) and I don't even know how the maniac scoring system works!

I'm sure it will pick up in a few days, unlike 1.01 which i tried for the first time today and got in the top 20 with palm just fooling around. I didn't save the replay for obvious reasons, and I was surprised when it uploaded the replay to live. That mode is tough so I'm sure it will never get much love. That and the whole first print issue.

EDIT: LOL i just got 20th for palm maniac BL and my score was so low i didn't even get to put in my initials. I know it will get knocked down in less than a min, but its humorous nonetheless.

[brentsg]

I haven't yet seen any stutter and I'm playing from the hard drive if it matters.

[dmauro]

I'm really enjoying Maniac. It's much more fun than Original because the scoring doesn't seem so disconnected. But it must have been beginners luck because I can't get through Stage 3 now so I haven't even come close to my 114 million.

[CptRansom]

The stuttering is obnoxious. That half-second is enough to throw off my momentum. =/ I've noticed it in BL Original/Maniac, 1.5 Original, and Novice Original so far today. =(

[agustusx]

The stuttering is obnoxious. That half-second is enough to throw off my momentum. =/ I've noticed it in BL Original/Maniac, 1.5 Original, and Novice Original so far today. =(

A full half second?! Wow I definitely haven't had that happen! Sorry to hear dude.

Just curious is Futari installed on your HD?

[Taylor]

Awesome that achievements are out. Wonder what the 100 is.

Deathsmiles Mega Black Label asked you kill the TLB for its 100 secret achievement, though nobody knew it existed at the time. Thankfully we know this time that all you've got to do is 1-life God Mode.

[gs68]

Either my eyes aren't exactly tuned for details or I don't see any stutter in BL. Or even in the other modes.

[Elixir]

Yeah, stutter is annoying, but still worth buying. Stage 3 has some weird slowdown issues though. I've never played Black Label but that just doesn't feel normal.

Thankfully we know this time that all you've got to do is 1-life God Mode.

In comparison, 1ccing God Mode doesn't sound anywhere near as difficult as getting to, and defeating, Bloody Jitterbug.

[CptRansom]

A full half second?! Wow I definitely haven't had that happen! Sorry to hear dude.

Just curious is Futari installed on your HD?

Yeah, it's installed. Hopefully this gets fixed soon.

[rancid3000]

I just got mine in the mail the other day. I love it! I have a few questions though.

Are there any differences between 360 mode and Arcade? Someone asked earlier in the thread but nobody answered. What settings is everyone using on an LCD monitor? I've played around with a few but I'm curious to see what others are using. Sorry if any of these were already covered. I read through this entire thread and I didn't feel like going through all the posts of the first thread.

That sucks about the BL DLC stuttering. I guess I'm going to hold off on that for a while until we know more about it.

[dmauro]

I just installed the game to my HDD and it seems to have stopped the stuttering.

edit: the stutter is very obvious, it is about a full half a second.

[Acid King]

Are there any differences between 360 mode and Arcade?

Apparently there are some differences in slowdown, but other than that and the difference in the visuals, they're the same.

[msm]

this has just arrived (no 1.01 DLC ), it doesn't work in my UK 360 but does work in the Asian 360 - i seriously doubt anyone else has had this problem? i suspect my 360 is on the way out, it's pretty old, but it still reads l4d2 (and i assume the rest of my games) ok

You'd get a message if it would be a region problem.

thanks, that at least confirms i don't have the worlds only region locked copy or something stupid like that

[Lok]

I played a bit of each mode today and haven't noticed a stutter yet with MF installed to the HDD. Though judging by some of the replies, I might as well expect it sometime soon. Maybe if enough people notice and complain about it Cave will issue an update.

Really enjoyed Black Label though but I'm gonna hold off on it for a bit until I get better at 1.5. Cave really filled our plates with this game, we have 4 versions now (5 for the lucky) and each version has 3 different modes.