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dont think ive ever played a bad shooter...
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Just found out about Planet Joker. A strong competitor for worst shooter ever.

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Ruldra wrote:Planet Joker
Horrible horrible game. I played it a good 30 minutes and it was enough for the rest of my life. I won't click no youtube link of this shit!
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Space Megaforce was pretty damn boring.
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http://nitros9.lcurtisboyle.com/silpheed.html
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doctorx0079 wrote:
doctorx0079 wrote:Image

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http://nitros9.lcurtisboyle.com/silpheed.html
Worst port of Silpheed ever.

Seriously, you could make a fucking TI-83+ version of the game and it would be better than this. I saw a video on Youtube of the game and there was no music and really annoying clicking/beeping sounds. Not only that but the ship sprite looks terrible and it's damn near impossible to see enemies.

Did the CoCo ever have any GOOD games? Because from this and the port of Thexder (five levels, no music) it seems like it didn't have much going for it.
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ZeetherKID77 wrote:Worst port of Silpheed ever.

Seriously, you could make a fucking TI-83+ version of the game and it would be better than this. I saw a video on Youtube of the game and there was no music and really annoying clicking/beeping sounds. Not only that but the ship sprite looks terrible and it's damn near impossible to see enemies.
THE PORT EVER.

At last, someone understands. I need to put more stuff on Youtube. Putting this on my Xmas list was one of the biggest mistakes of my life. X-P
ZeetherKID77 wrote:Did the CoCo ever have any GOOD games? Because from this and the port of Thexder (five levels, no music) it seems like it didn't have much going for it.
Oh sure. Off the top of my head:

The LEGENDARY Dungeons of Daggorath.
Stellar Lifeline
Mega-Bug
Cave Walker
Androne
and Madness and The Minotaur if you like text adventures.

Note how they are mostly originals.

Then there's CoCo 3 games which I'm not really qualified to talk about. But check out this port of Donkey Kong.
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boagman wrote:Battle Garegga, or however it's spelled. Just unconscionably bad. It's actually become a joke among me and another shmup buddy of mine. It's seriously horrible.
Is this supposed to be flamebait? If so, that's pretty lame. If it's not and you're serious you need to reconsider your shmupping hobby, really. While there are plenty of good reasons to dislike Garegga (I'm not a big fan of it myself), saying it's a bad game, let alone the worst ever, is just crazy talk.

Robotron can vouch for me on my hatred of the game. Am I supposed to make up something based on a game that I haven't played just so the myriad BG fans can feel better about themselves? They can love it all they like! I don't care! Bully for them! For me, though, the game made me hate it to the extreme, and that's the truth.
Yup, he didn't like it, and it wasn't my taste either. People have different tastes, some like bullet hell, verts only, hori's only, etc. He and I agreed we didn't care for it.

But as I said before in this thread, my vote goes to "Deep Blue" the worst I've played.
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doctorx0079 wrote:
ZeetherKID77 wrote:Did the CoCo ever have any GOOD games? Because from this and the port of Thexder (five levels, no music) it seems like it didn't have much going for it.
Oh sure. Off the top of my head:

The LEGENDARY Dungeons of Daggorath.
Stellar Lifeline
Mega-Bug
Cave Walker
Androne
and Madness and The Minotaur if you like text adventures.

Note how they are mostly originals.

Then there's CoCo 3 games which I'm not really qualified to talk about. But check out this port of Donkey Kong.
I stand corrected. That looks like a good Donkey Kong port too.

But yeah, I remember seeing a video of CoCo Silpheed on Youtube, and it looks like utter crap. I have to agree.
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WORST Shooter:

1. Assault Heroes (an euro... err not, western shovelware shmup)
It's intended to be a cross between shmup and four-way shooter (Gauntlet, Smash TV, Total Carnage kind of game) but fixed and sloooowww scrolling cramps me. Priced 10 bucks, but i would prefer Star Soldier R for that.

2. Metal Black
Newalone system cramps a lot. and only one smart-bomb, that drops your weapon power. Impossible without continuing. And ending inspired by GAINAX is your reward for feeding the machine quarters.

3. Shmup with excessive amount of flesh and blood (X-Multiply, Psyche Metal)
Intentional gross-out. R-Type and Gradius is exception because it's balanced between regular stages, not all of them.

4. Baroque Shooting
WTF? Gratuitous disturbing imagery? It's look like Goa Tse: The Shmup or Encyclopedia Dramatica's Offended: The Shmup. Or Net Screamer: The Shmup.
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Meyers07 wrote:2. Metal Black
Impossible without continuing.
You might want to tell that to these guys, then, since they've apparently done the impossible :P http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1587
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Meyers07 wrote:WORST Shooter:

1. Assault Heroes (an euro... err not, western shovelware shmup)
It's intended to be a cross between shmup and four-way shooter (Gauntlet, Smash TV, Total Carnage kind of game) but fixed and sloooowww scrolling cramps me. Priced 10 bucks, but i would prefer Star Soldier R for that.

2. Metal Black
Newalone system cramps a lot. and only one smart-bomb, that drops your weapon power. Impossible without continuing. And ending inspired by GAINAX is your reward for feeding the machine quarters.

3. Shmup with excessive amount of flesh and blood (X-Multiply, Psyche Metal)
Intentional gross-out. R-Type and Gradius is exception because it's balanced between regular stages, not all of them.

4. Baroque Shooting
WTF? Gratuitous disturbing imagery? It's look like Goa Tse: The Shmup or Encyclopedia Dramatica's Offended: The Shmup. Or Net Screamer: The Shmup.
ive never played the first game but some of the others i think arnt too bad, and i love shmups with hr giger horror graphics, gynoug was the shmup that started it all and its one of my favorite horizontals.

i can think of shmups that are allt worse then them, Xenon 2 onthe MD allways springs to mind as it was the only shmup i ever bought and it stunk to high heaven, nearlly put me totally off shmups as a kid and is the biggest reason imo why i passed the genre over untill last year.

Usually i dont say this sort of stuff but if anybody actually thinks its a good game has a poor taste in games.
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Meyers07 wrote:WORST Shooter:

1. Assault Heroes (an euro... err not, western shovelware shmup)
It's intended to be a cross between shmup and four-way shooter (Gauntlet, Smash TV, Total Carnage kind of game) but fixed and sloooowww scrolling cramps me. Priced 10 bucks, but i would prefer Star Soldier R for that.

2. Metal Black
Newalone system cramps a lot. and only one smart-bomb, that drops your weapon power. Impossible without continuing. And ending inspired by GAINAX is your reward for feeding the machine quarters.

3. Shmup with excessive amount of flesh and blood (X-Multiply, Psyche Metal)
Intentional gross-out. R-Type and Gradius is exception because it's balanced between regular stages, not all of them.

4. Baroque Shooting
WTF? Gratuitous disturbing imagery? It's look like Goa Tse: The Shmup or Encyclopedia Dramatica's Offended: The Shmup. Or Net Screamer: The Shmup.
I would probably add Yakouga on Point 3 and 4

And for point 5...

Japanese shovelwares such as Two-Tenkaku and Stahlfeder!
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There were some terrible shooters released on the Megadrive, it's close but for me the worst has to be Dangerous Seed.

It's in my loft somewhere, but it's never ever going back in my MD

Check out the crapness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSeTYY232s4
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Seriously, Assault Heroes is the worst shmup ever? Sure, it's casual and cars control like bricks, but you can still have fun in it, and there are some original moments (wall boss, final escape sequence). You may not like it, but compared to actual "worst shmup ever" contenders, it's a masterpiece.
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consoleretro wrote:There were some terrible shooters released on the Megadrive, it's close but for me the worst has to be Dangerous Seed.

It's in my loft somewhere, but it's never ever going back in my MD

Check out the crapness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSeTYY232s4
What's suppoosed to be wrong with what I see in that vid? Looks perfectly fine for an old-school shooter to me.
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*sigh*

- Thunder Force 1
- All the cute 'em ups for PCE (except of Parodius and AirZonk?)
- Sengoku Cannon
- PS1 Cho Aniki
- NES Star Soldier
- Raiden 3 (the definition of blandness)

I mean, they're all mostly okay from the gameplay perspective, but look like ass and provide no fun...
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Newalone system cramps a lot.
What, exactly? There's nothing to it, mate. You only gather Newalone to power up your main shot, or to unleash it as a bomb or a concentrated laser beam when you need it, and the game is still doable even if you somehow manage to completely ignore this feature. It cramps nothing.

If you ditch the credit-feeding for a while, you'll learn how to play it. :P
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Klatrymadon wrote:
Newalone system cramps a lot.
What, exactly? There's nothing to it, mate. You only gather Newalone to power up your main shot, or to unleash it as a bomb or a concentrated laser beam when you need it, and the game is still doable even if you somehow manage to completely ignore this feature. It cramps nothing.

If you ditch the credit-feeding for a while, you'll learn how to play it. :P
Um...they make levels 4 and 5 to fail. You can't shoot behind, and most of the time theres those darn things that grab the ship and slow it down. Its not a fair game if you ask me. Metal Black needs side lazers/missles.
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devilmanozzy wrote:Um...they make levels 4 and 5 to fail. You can't shoot behind, and most of the time theres those darn things that grab the ship and slow it down. Its not a fair game if you ask me. Metal Black needs side lazers/missles.
Nope, it needs more people to suck less :wink:
I don't now why people have this conception that a game is "unfair" if you can't shoot every enemy the moment it enters the screen. You dodge them, make them go in a semi-circle around you and blam! Simple as that.
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devilmanozzy wrote:Um...they make levels 4 and 5 to fail. You can't shoot behind, and most of the time theres those darn things that grab the ship and slow it down. Its not a fair game if you ask me. Metal Black needs side lazers/missles.
You don't need to shoot behind you at any point in those levels. As for the st4 bubbles / st5 magnets, learn to counter them. Bubbles? Don't flee from them. Run into them head on and destroy them from the inside out, so they can't trip you up later. Be proactive. Magnets? Make sure you're not close to any shooting enemies when they latch on, and you'll be fine.

I'm seriously about to write a "Metal Black for Dummies" ST, with basic information on dealing with each enemy type, as well as maximising the ship's capabilities... honestly, I'm by no means a remarkable player, and I can ream this game blindfolded. You just need to observe and develop your approach, like in... any other shooter (or most games period) worth playing.
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BIL wrote:I'm seriously about to write a "Metal Black for Dummies" ST, with basic information on dealing with each enemy type, as well as maximising the ship's capabilities... honestly, I'm by no means a remarkable player, and I can ream this game blindfolded. You just need to observe and develop your approach, like in... any other shooter (or most games period) worth playing.
Maybe im jaded but i think many of the ppl who need the guide the most wont even read it. Just look at Recca (normal mode) a very hard game untill u read the strategy guide on this site and realise that the bomb acts a shield and u find out what each of the power ups are. Then recca is all about getting a decent wide spead weapon for each situation and learning how to tackle the bosses.

Whille still not a easy shmup recca is not as hard as allot of ppl think it is. Although the hidden modes are another kettle of fish.
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worstplayer wrote:Seriously, Assault Heroes is the worst shmup ever? Sure, it's casual and cars control like bricks, but you can still have fun in it, and there are some original moments (wall boss, final escape sequence). You may not like it, but compared to actual "worst shmup ever" contenders, it's a masterpiece.
Sorry, the list is not sorted by rank numbers for the worst ever. It was that which slips on my mind. Btw, Assault Heroes is mediocre at best, but i threw that away for its sloow scrolling and typical euroshmup feel.

For the WORST shmup i nominate Two-Tenkaku for:

1. The opening with inflatable mecha baloons and japanese gibberish like they rapping japanese translation of Necronomicon.
2. Gratuitous buddhist imagery and it's just sucks. Rather that buying that crap i would see Raiden Fighters series ending on arcade even munching quarters by quarters.

Check this <beep>!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC5WTUS4dtA
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Meyers07 wrote:
worstplayer wrote:Seriously, Assault Heroes is the worst shmup ever? Sure, it's casual and cars control like bricks, but you can still have fun in it, and there are some original moments (wall boss, final escape sequence). You may not like it, but compared to actual "worst shmup ever" contenders, it's a masterpiece.
Sorry, the list is not sorted by rank numbers for the worst ever. It was that which slips on my mind. Btw, Assault Heroes is mediocre at best, but i threw that away for its sloow scrolling and typical euroshmup feel.

For the WORST shmup i nominate Two-Tenkaku for:

1. The opening with inflatable mecha baloons and japanese gibberish like they rapping japanese translation of Necronomicon.
2. Gratuitous buddhist imagery and it's just sucks. Rather that buying that crap i would see Raiden Fighters series ending on arcade even munching quarters by quarters.

Check this <beep>!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC5WTUS4dtA
I know I'm not the only one getting sick of your shitposting. There are shmups much worse than this.
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Aye, this is like when precious wee Ocarina of Time fans call The Wind Waker "the worst game ever". There's no sense of historical perspective.
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BIL wrote:
devilmanozzy wrote:Um...they make levels 4 and 5 to fail. You can't shoot behind, and most of the time theres those darn things that grab the ship and slow it down. Its not a fair game if you ask me. Metal Black needs side lazers/missles.
You don't need to shoot behind you at any point in those levels. As for the st4 bubbles / st5 magnets, learn to counter them. Bubbles? Don't flee from them. Run into them head on and destroy them from the inside out, so they can't trip you up later. Be proactive. Magnets? Make sure you're not close to any shooting enemies when they latch on, and you'll be fine.

I'm seriously about to write a "Metal Black for Dummies" ST, with basic information on dealing with each enemy type, as well as maximising the ship's capabilities... honestly, I'm by no means a remarkable player, and I can ream this game blindfolded. You just need to observe and develop your approach, like in... any other shooter (or most games period) worth playing.
Thanks for the tips. I'll try them when I next play the game. :lol:
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Riot Zone wrote:I agree Ghost pilots isn't very good as is, but with the uni bios cheats the game is awsome! Almost a completely different game when you always have Max firepower, which also means always max speed! Along with rapid fire I can make it to the last stage on 1 credit under those settings. Highly recommend giving that game another shot under those settings! :wink:
You were right. I just got a uni bios chip put in my Neo. I like setting my bomb stock and lives to 10. Set the "always max firepower" and "Rapid fire" on especially makes a hudge difference. Glad I didn't get rid of my copy of GP. Turned a frustrating fucked up game into a good game!
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That post changed my life.
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Ed Oscuro wrote:That post changed my life.
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TG-16 wrote:
Riot Zone wrote:I agree Ghost pilots isn't very good as is, but with the uni bios cheats the game is awsome! Almost a completely different game when you always have Max firepower, which also means always max speed! Along with rapid fire I can make it to the last stage on 1 credit under those settings. Highly recommend giving that game another shot under those settings! :wink:
You were right. I just got a uni bios chip put in my Neo. I like setting my bomb stock and lives to 10. Set the "always max firepower" and "Rapid fire" on especially makes a hudge difference. Glad I didn't get rid of my copy of GP. Turned a frustrating fucked up game into a good game!
Yeah isn't that badass? The speed of your plane and the rapid fire is what really turns the game around and makes it a lot more enjoyable. Uni bios chip makes some of the other Neo shooters more fun as well, but it really makes Ghost Pilots almost a completely different game.
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