Ketsui X and Daioujou Black Label X - Ports for Xbox 360

moonblood · Post by **moonblood** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:24 pm

"The porting of Ketsui" - One of the most trouble-filled storys in videogame history

It would become a bestseller I'm sure

or a great 60 minutes episode

Oh well, We'll always have the DS version. its fun for what it is

dan76 · Post by **dan76** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:23 pm

It's typical that with Ketsui, when the port was announced a lot of people were jumping for joy - it's THE cave game. It was in 5pb's hands. In the meantime cave decides to start porting, even talking of older titles for XBLA - but Ketsui isn't even in the running because it's with 5pb. 5pb screw up. End result, the first/most wanted port that was announced doesn't actually come out. If 5pb hadn't got involved I think Ketsui would've won their poll for XBLA - the irony...

wiNteR · Post by **wiNteR** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:25 pm

This game really has become a conundrum. From the initial reactions of PCB and arcade players to the story of the PS2 port,the announcement of X360 port and then the later turn of events. Whether or not it really is the best Cave game, it surely has earned its place as one of the most elusive games in VG history.

Just look at the date of original post. By that time some of us would be at peace thinking that we can finally play this gem of a game soon. Indeed, that couldn't be further from the truth

TLB · Post by **TLB** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:35 pm

wiNteR wrote:This game really has become a conundrum. From the initial reactions of PCB and arcade players to the story of the PS2 port,the announcement of X360 port and then the later turn of events. Whether or not it really is the best Cave game, it surely has earned its place as one of the most elusive games in VG history.

Just look at the date of original post. By that time some of us would be at peace thinking that we can finally play this gem of a game soon. Indeed, that couldn't be further from the truth :lol:

indeed, this whole tale is one big *sigh*.

hopefully it'll all pay off in the end for those who've waited so long.

i'm not getting a jp360, so chances are slim i'd be playing it even if it were released, but good luck to everyone who doesn't have the money to find a pcb.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:06 pm

moonblood wrote:Oh well, We'll always have the DS version.

Bad moonblood, bad! That game is not Ketsui, and until the 360 version is released or otherwise, there is no true port of Ketsui. Yes I omitted "it's fun for what it is" as it is besides the main point, since not everyone is getting a DS for this game (raises hand) and from what I've heard it's not fun in the same sense as the original.

I think the 360 game and 5pb could use a good dose of no news... is good news for the next while. Hopefully 5pb and or Cave can sort the rubbish out in time and release or announce a release sometime for next year.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:42 pm

gray117 wrote:pft... personally blex was a bit of a shame - the front end a complete mess - but I can live with that. Hell it was 5pb's first attempt...

Unfortunately, I can only presume Ketsui has similar problems since you'd have to think that otherwise both 5pb and cave would deflect blex bad news with Ketsui announcements. The fact that Ketsui is constantly glossed over/avoided in news/press events is also not good.

I think kotaku maybe scare mongering a bit when they say TBA is bad sign - it is pretty much status quo. However, with a lack of announcements I think business between 5pb and cave is VERY limited at this point - probably with only one or two people working on anything cave related at 5pb. I imagine 5pb is using/has used Ketsui as a lever against Cave walking away from 5pb.

Cave for their part are probably rather dismayed at how blex has gone and are probably struggling over how best to proceed; I imagine they do want to fix blex but paying for it and any outstanding issues with Ketsui are probably stalling the process.

My understanding of Cave is that they will probably favour sacrificing Ketsui's schedule in favour of a fix. However, they can't afford to fund both the fix and Ketsui. Similarly even if they could afford to take either on internally I believe their internal bandwidth is probably pretty much full on with Espgaluda 2 and Futari.

It's a bit of a shame since Cave were clearly hoping to make quite a splash with their shmup release lineup and unfortunately it got tripped up - most probably 'saved' by DeathSmiles. Additionally rather than coming near the beginning Ketsui is most likely going to end up at the end of this cycle ...

Personally... I sacrifice all other release dates for Ketsui... but Espgaluda 2 and Futari are probably more a safe bet and a done deal in Cave's eyes...

I know that shitting on Masaki Sakari and 5pb Division 2 is the in thing, but I'd honestly like to know just how much of DOJ BLEX was handled internally before the project was out-sourced to Aqua System.

Also, Cave handed off Mushi Futari to M2, so they aren't really handling that internally either. And at this point, I'd expect Futari to be going gold anyway (or damned close to it).

Zero Gunner · Post by **Zero Gunner** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:51 pm

Why all the hate folks? Who cares if 5pb messed up DDP and has limbo-ed Ketsui. Can you blame them? It's hard work making sure that your executive director is The Most Handsome Game Company Exec In Japan?!!!! Don't hate cause you aren't beautiful also. Instead of desiring Ketsui, we should all desire to be so fashionable!

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:00 pm

gray117 wrote:I think kotaku maybe scare mongering a bit when they say TBA is bad sign - it is pretty much status quo.

QFT. Looks like a slow news day. This is typical to tabloids, and since mentioning anything that even the slightest Ketsui related is sure to get lots of viewings. Don't feed the troll that is kotaku.

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:26 pm

Cave's plate may be full at this time - they're probably thinking of Daifukkatsu after they get Futari & ESPG2 done. Still, they don't need to be the ones to do Ketsui.

5pb should outsource the whole Ketsui project to Arika, rather than handling any of it internally.

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:32 pm

Zero Gunner wrote:Why all the hate folks? Who cares if 5pb messed up DDP and has limbo-ed Ketsui. Can you blame them? It's hard work making sure that your executive director is The Most Handsome Game Company Exec In Japan?

I thought angst went away before 39. Apparently not.

neist · Post by **neist** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:21 pm

Zero Gunner wrote:Why all the hate folks? Who cares if 5pb messed up DDP and has limbo-ed Ketsui. Can you blame them? It's hard work making sure that your executive director is The Most Handsome Game Company Exec In Japan?!!!! Don't hate cause you aren't beautiful also. Instead of desiring Ketsui, we should all desire to be so fashionable!

Was wondering when that was going to pop up in this thread.

drunkninja24 · Post by **drunkninja24** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:31 pm

So when are they going to name this "Ketsui Forever"?

EPS21 · Post by **EPS21** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:50 pm

Announce date: Released when its done.

Danbo · Post by **Danbo** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:26 pm

Zero Gunner wrote:Why all the hate folks? Who cares if 5pb messed up DDP and has limbo-ed Ketsui. Can you blame them? It's hard work making sure that your executive director is The Most Handsome Game Company Exec In Japan?!!!! Don't hate cause you aren't beautiful also. Instead of desiring Ketsui, we should all desire to be so fashionable!

He's only beautiful on the outside

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:55 pm

durango76 wrote:It's typical that with Ketsui, when the port was announced a lot of people were jumping for joy - it's THE cave game. It was in 5pb's hands. In the meantime cave decides to start porting, even talking of older titles for XBLA - but Ketsui isn't even in the running because it's with 5pb. 5pb screw up. End result, the first/most wanted port that was announced doesn't actually come out. If 5pb hadn't got involved I think Ketsui would've won their poll for XBLA - the irony...

This is exactly why I recommended people vote for Ketsui in that poll. If the port never arrives, you've all got yourselves to blame.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:59 am

bcass wrote:This is exactly why I recommended people vote for Ketsui in that poll. If the port never arrives, you've all got yourselves to blame.

A particularly useless and mean spirited ITYS.

Go piss up a rope.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:06 am

Also, Cave handed off Mushi Futari to M2, so they aren't really handling that internally either

M2 has a golden reputation. The whole point of the WTF?!!?s when the Ketsui port was announced was why it went to some off-beat dating sim developer.

CStarFlare · Post by **CStarFlare** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:11 am

bcass wrote:This is exactly why I recommended people vote for Ketsui in that poll. If the port never arrives, you've all got yourselves to blame.

Exactly. Way to waste your only chance to tell Cave that you want Ketsui, guys! Now they'll never know.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:57 am

Now they'll never know.

I'm pretty sure they've figured it out... oh... several years ago.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:00 am

GaijinPunch wrote:
Now they'll never know.
I'm pretty sure they've figured it out... oh... several years ago.

And they cared so much about it that they gave the licence to some off-beat dating sim developer.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:03 am

howmuchkeefe wrote:
bcass wrote:This is exactly why I recommended people vote for Ketsui in that poll. If the port never arrives, you've all got yourselves to blame.
A particularly useless and mean spirited ITYS.

Go piss up a rope.

Hey, it's not my fault you'll be getting a shitty conversion of Guwange instead.

dcharlie · Post by **dcharlie** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:33 am

Hey, it's not my fault you'll be getting a shitty conversion of Guwange instead.

that vote for Guwange was a blessing in disguise.

I want real physical DS limited edition style PRODUCT with lots of nice art work rather than ROM-on-a-list, so given that Guwange has been emu'ed to death it all works out and we can get something else with nice packaging.

(i say this after buying a PSP Go which makes me a DLC buying frigging idiot)

adversity1 · Post by **adversity1** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:04 am

bcass wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:
Now they'll never know.
I'm pretty sure they've figured it out... oh... several years ago.
And they cared so much about it that they gave the licence to some off-beat dating sim developer.

Time to change the rag dude, you're bleeding all over the thread.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:52 am

bcass wrote: And they cared so much about it that they gave the licence to some off-beat dating sim developer.

They speak the international language of money.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:15 am

As do we all.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:23 am

bcass wrote:And they cared so much about it that they gave the licence to some off-beat dating sim developer.

5pb publish them, they don't develop them.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:30 am

Yeah, but it was their responsibility as to who did the development.

TLB · Post by **TLB** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:09 pm

GP your new avatar makes me feel funny when I think about you...

Honestly, I've completely resigned myself to the fact that, chances are, unless I make it to boom's next meet, I'm not going to be playing Ketsui for at least a few years. Which is absolutely friggin' fine, because there are thousands of games, dozens of AAA shutan gaemz, and a whole sea of girls to occupy myself with. Let's not forget substances.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:45 pm

bcass wrote:Yeah, but it was their responsibility as to who did the development.

Obviously it wasn't. You whore out your title, and it can be rewhored (which it was).

GP your new avatar makes me feel funny when I think about you...

You should see me naked.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:58 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:Obviously it wasn't. You whore out your title, and it can be rewhored (which it was).

I meant it was the responsibility of 5pb, not Cave.

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