Under Defeat Home Page opens

D · Post by D » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:49 pm

http://www.grev.co.jp/ud/index.html

Few Screenshots

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:01 pm

WOW! A heli shooter....cool! Screen shots look great...and if its half as good as Border Down, we're in for a treat!

neoalphazero · Post by **neoalphazero** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:43 pm

I love that logo. *-neo

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:44 pm

I'd like to see it running to get an idea of what their going for

I think it's mentioned in the new issue of Edge (g.rev are interviewed), although I've now misplaced my copy

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:13 am

Seems like it's got some kind of small scale scoring system, like Raiden 3. What gives X2? Charge meter in the corner for those homing pods, I guess.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:00 am

The more screen shots I see, the more I think GRev really wants to show up ZG. This looks like ZG2 but much more old school and more intense.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:11 am

Dylan1CC wrote:more intense.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:17 am

ROBOTRON wrote:WOW! A heli shooter....cool! Screen shots look great...and if its half as good as Border Down, we're in for a treat!

Well yeah, but I don't want to have to purposefully slam my helicopter into a ship just to get a higher score-hopefully there's none of that in this game!

Nice find D! Now that I've had a good look at those screenshots, graphically the game reminds me of Raiden 3 more then anything else.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:44 am

dave4shmups wrote: graphically the game reminds me of Raiden 3 more then anything else.

I had the same thought, though there is something a bit less realistic about these images. The enemies are drawn to look a bit like cool illustrations from an old book or something rather than photographic representations.

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:27 am

This is the first I've seen of the game so excuse me if it's been said, but your ship is GINORMOUS! Hopefully it doesn't play as awkward as it looks like it would.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:49 pm

Nemo wrote:This is the first I've seen of the game so excuse me if it's been said, but your ship is GINORMOUS! Hopefully it doesn't play as awkward as it looks like it would.

Good point Nemo, it does look like your hitbox is very large in this game.

BTW, in the latest video of this game, I'm positive I saw a screen that showed a BUNCH of selectable helicopters-at least twice the number that ZG2 has; that looks like an awesome feature!

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:00 pm

Rob wrote:
Dylan1CC wrote:more intense.

quite funny.

Kron · Post by **Kron** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:55 pm

captain ahar wrote:
Rob wrote:
Dylan1CC wrote:more intense.

quite funny.

Not as funny as people pre-judging a loke test video that lasted all of 40 seconds.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:17 pm

Kron wrote: Not as funny as people pre-judging a loke test video that lasted all of 40 seconds.

Quit trying to save Naomi's shooters from my wrath.

I'm positive I saw a screen that showed a BUNCH of selectable helicopters-at least twice the number that ZG2 has; that looks like an awesome feature!

Maybe you're thinking of the "wallpaper" after the level.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:39 pm

Rob wrote:
Dylan1CC wrote:more intense.

What's so funny about that? It's the truth. As good as it is, ZG2 is not one of Psikyo's more "hectic" shooters. Not until the last two stages anyways. Before that it is pretty slow paced and most enemies kinda hover around you instead of trying to kill or run into you. Except for the boss attack patterns, enemy bullets in early stages move slowly also. Not to say it isn't a well made or enjoyable game. But Under Defeat looks like ZG2 with a more fixed rotation and much faster gunplay. But I guess we will see.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:46 pm

Dylan1CC wrote: As good as it is, ZG2 is not one of Psikyo's more "hectic" shooters. Not until the last two stages anyways. Before that it is pretty slow paced and most enemies kinda hover around you instead of trying to kill or run into you.

Yeah, that is true, except where does this look any different? The videos made it look tame. The attacks look mostly like aimed shots, but the only reason aimed shots are ever challenging is when they are fast and/or combined with thick patterns. Looks to be neither.

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:20 pm

Kron wrote:
captain ahar wrote:
Rob wrote:
quite funny.
Not as funny as people pre-judging a loke test video that lasted all of 40 seconds.

god forbid people give their impressions.

liek omg u tink wi culd b rong n da gaem b good lolaf?

i dont understand when people bitch about people giving their impression from some vids. dont post your opinions unless they're positive.

Kron · Post by **Kron** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:14 pm

The vagrant wrote:dont post your opinions unless they're positive.

oh the irony.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:25 pm

Rob wrote:
Dylan1CC wrote: As good as it is, ZG2 is not one of Psikyo's more "hectic" shooters. Not until the last two stages anyways. Before that it is pretty slow paced and most enemies kinda hover around you instead of trying to kill or run into you.
Yeah, that is true, except where does this look any different? The videos made it look tame. The attacks look mostly like aimed shots, but the only reason aimed shots are ever challenging is when they are fast and/or combined with thick patterns. Looks to be neither.

Because here the helicopter can only tilt at smaller angles unlike ZG where you can move and aim anywhere in a full circle which places emphasis on moving all over the screen.

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:29 pm

Kron wrote:
The vagrant wrote:dont post your opinions unless they're positive.
oh the irony.

*scratches head*

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:36 pm

Dylan1CC wrote: Because here the helicopter can only tilt at smaller angles unlike ZG where you can move and aim anywhere in a full circle which places emphasis on moving all over the screen.

So moving less is more hectic? I don't get it.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:17 am

Rob wrote:
Dylan1CC wrote: Because here the helicopter can only tilt at smaller angles unlike ZG where you can move and aim anywhere in a full circle which places emphasis on moving all over the screen.
So moving less is more hectic? I don't get it.

It is if that means my ship is fenced in more when surrounded.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:32 am

I don't see any fences.

Oh wait, I see the fences now.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:52 am

Rob wrote:I don't see any fences.

Oh wait, I see the fences now.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:57 am

The vagrant wrote:
Kron wrote:
captain ahar wrote: quite funny.
Not as funny as people pre-judging a loke test video that lasted all of 40 seconds.
god forbid people give their impressions.

liek omg u tink wi culd b rong n da gaem b good lolaf?

i dont understand when people bitch about people giving their impression from some vids. dont post your opinions unless they're positive.

Yeah but Kron has a point about people judging an entire game on a small video segment of a game. How many more times are we going to go through "OMG teh gamezorz suckzorz!!" JUST after the FIRST friggin' video?? People complain about this because it's happened so many times in the past year alone that it's ridiculous. And then when (or if) the game is good, then everyone jumps on the bandwagon with that as well! You don't see anything wrong with that?

And I'm sorry, but you don't own this site, and people have the right to post their opinions, positive, or negative, about games.

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:30 am

dave4shmups wrote:
The vagrant wrote:
Kron wrote: Not as funny as people pre-judging a loke test video that lasted all of 40 seconds.
god forbid people give their impressions.

liek omg u tink wi culd b rong n da gaem b good lolaf?

i dont understand when people bitch about people giving their impression from some vids. dont post your opinions unless they're positive.
Yeah but Kron has a point about people judging an entire game on a small video segment of a game. How many more times are we going to go through "OMG teh gamezorz suckzorz!!" JUST after the FIRST friggin' video?? People complain about this because it's happened so many times in the past year alone that it's ridiculous. And then when (or if) the game is good, then everyone jumps on the bandwagon with that as well! You don't see anything wrong with that?

And I'm sorry, but you don't own this site, and people have the right to post their opinions, positive, or negative, about games.

i dont get it, you post something on an internet discussion message board, the point is to get discussion.
if the game seems bad to someone on the video, why shouldnt he be able to express it.

of course its not a definitive review of the game, its just a first impression, dont act dumber than you are.
the game could turn out better than expected, or worse.

hell when i saw the MGS3 trailers, i tought it was going to be the best game in the world, but when i played it, i ended up mildly dissapointed.

and about the irony thing, i kinda understand what kron wanted to say, and it all makes it worse. (hint: sarcasm)

edit: and if i just posted "OMG THIS GAME LOOKS AWESOME I CANT WAIT!1" would people still bitch? why the double standart?

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:34 am

Yup. Folks here can say yay or nay to the video all they want. It's all good (or bad depending on whether or not u like the vid

)

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:42 am

The screenshots look a -lot- like Raiden 3. A lot. Really. I'll save all final judgements until I've got the game in my hands though... whenver that potentially could be.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:02 pm

This obviously shows NAOMI is still alive and kickin'!

None of the Type X games so far looked better than this. IMHO it looks very slick! Shame I am not a huge fan of ZG2, so I am not too bothered with this game...

BIG · Post by **BIG** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:50 pm

Looks good.

Port,pleez.

B-