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I picked up gunbuster on Blu Ray this past weekend. Man this has to be one of my favorite all time anime if not my top favorite.

I was dissapointed the blu-ray was only the cut down movie version at 1st, I'm still sad it didn't include the total OAV as well. I must say though it really makes a nice to the point cut down to the best parts in it's movie form. If you don't have 3 hours or just want to show it to a friend it's a great 1 and half hours. The essential plot points are condensed... mostly it's just the 1st 3 episodes that are cut down.

The picture may not make a blu ray reference disc... but it's the best I've ever seen gunbuster and quite good considering the age of the anime. The sound is top notch also. I highly recommend it to any fans. It may be shortened but so was the Macross movie and it works in the same sense. It makes for one hell of a 1 and a half hours.

Am I alone on here in holding gunbuster as one of the all time greats? They just don't make them like this anymore.

I watched the new one.... Diebuster, it didn't do much for me. I hated the look as soon as I saw shots of it awhile back. But I though I may have been a bit stubborn and getting hooked up on the visuals. At the core it was the story that made gunbuster really shine for me. I watched and it didn't leave me with the same impression at all. It's production values and music were great but I didn't really like the characters at all. Maybe it didn't survive being compressed down to a 1 and half hour movie as well as gunbuster.....? I doubt it was that though as far as my tastes go.

I beg you go watch this to anyone who likes anime and has not seen it before. It's ending makes the whole ride so worth it, along with some truly tense/epic space battles.
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The Gunbuster stuff was good but I found Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise to be Gainix's best work IMHO.
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I'm not that big of an anime buff, but when a friend of mine showed me Gunbuster a few years ago I recall being able to call most of the cliches at least a minute or two before they actually appeared onscreen.
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I've never actually seen the movie, but I've watched through the ova many times and showed it to several people. It's definitely one of the best. You said something about Diebuster being compressed down? I didn't even know there WAS a movie of Diebuster, and having also watched that many times, I cannot even imagine that series being edited down. Diebuster is really good, definitely worthy of being a sequel to Gunbuster.
BulletMagnet wrote:I'm not that big of an anime buff, but when a friend of mine showed me Gunbuster a few years ago I recall being able to call most of the cliches at least a minute or two before they actually appeared onscreen.
It's a half-parody. There's plenty of joke references in the show (including its name) and even more in its sequel, but it's obviously not a 100% comedy... similar to gurren lagann. Also, many weren't cliches yet :wink: either way it doesn't really take itself TOO seriously.
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Do 80's anime, OVAs or tv series, really work in Blu-ray? I expected such a medium to expose all the flaws and the deterioration of the masters...

How many of anime classics have been ported to BD yet?
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ncp wrote:
BulletMagnet wrote:I'm not that big of an anime buff, but when a friend of mine showed me Gunbuster a few years ago I recall being able to call most of the cliches at least a minute or two before they actually appeared onscreen.
It's a half-parody. There's plenty of joke references in the show (including its name) and even more in its sequel, but it's obviously not a 100% comedy... similar to gurren lagann. Also, many weren't cliches yet :wink: either way it doesn't really take itself TOO seriously.
Still never seen Gunbuster, but yeah - it's Gainax. A big part of the appeal - although far from the major part - in a lot of their output is the piss-taking and referencing.
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Gunbuster is one of the best OVAs ever. Sci-Fi fans will get more out of it than people coming in cold though.
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I recall being able to call most of the cliches at least a minute or two before they actually appeared onscreen.
that was one purpose and kind of the point. it was tipping it's hat to all the super robot anime. if you didn't make it to the end or all ready had in your head you were gonna hate then that is unfortunate.
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Turrican wrote:Do 80's anime, OVAs or tv series, really work in Blu-ray? I expected such a medium to expose all the flaws and the deterioration of the masters...
I think the only reason it's on Blu-ray is because it is a movie version that was shown at theaters. I'm not sure how well a 4:3 anime worked when transferred to widescreen for the big screen, though.

Gunbuster is good stuff, though. I don't know about the cut down version, but I loved it in its OVA form.
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The remastered version has quite a bit of grain, I can't imagine upscaling it would do much for it unless they worked some production magic.
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Gunbuster is my all time favourite anime, and has been since I first saw it around 1994. I wasn't convince by the sequel at first because I hated Gainax's FLCL led stylistic shift for a long time, but now I love that style in all its excesses. The original is definitely superior though.
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Turrican wrote:Do 80's anime, OVAs or tv series, really work in Blu-ray? I expected such a medium to expose all the flaws and the deterioration of the masters...

How many of anime classics have been ported to BD yet?
This film was recut. That Japanese track, as well, was recorded w/ the original actors. I'm on the fence on this one. The series is great - it encapsulates all types of weird shit found in other Science Fiction shows, all the while poking fun at itself, but is really serious towards the end. The fact that they describe how Newtonian Physics affected "Present Physics" (that'd be future physics to us) was quite cool.
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Strider77 wrote:that was one purpose and kind of the point. it was tipping it's hat to all the super robot anime. if you didn't make it to the end or all ready had in your head you were gonna hate then that is unfortunate.
I did see the whole thing. I didn't hate it or anything, but again, I'm not much of an anime fan to begin with, so the thing wasn't exactly aimed at me as it was.
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Anyone know if there's any truth in the legend that the final episode of the OVA was in black&white because fans were clamoring outside Gainax's office, demanding its release?
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No, it was just a stylistic choice.
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I thought they ran out of budget or something? Or was that a hoax?
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moozooh wrote:I thought they ran out of budget or something? Or was that a hoax?
I'm pretty sure that applied to Evangelion, but I wouldn't know concerning Gunbuster.
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I bought the limited editon 3 DVD set of Gunbuster when it was released in the USA for the first time a few years back. I was impressed with the all the high-tech little super-deformed characters that go in to explict detail of the inner works of the time/space travel continuum. ^_~

I like how the third episode of Gunbuster is asethetically shown in black and white format with 16:9 widescreen aspect ratio. Did Gainax know that in the future, that today's current TV monitors were going to be presented in 16:9 aspect ratio?

Realistically, could the human body survive going the speed of light or even faster? ^_~

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The final episode wasn't just shot on black and white film, the artwork was entirely monochrome.
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BulletMagnet wrote:I'm not that big of an anime buff, but when a friend of mine showed me Gunbuster a few years ago I recall being able to call most of the cliches at least a minute or two before they actually appeared onscreen.
Gunbuster is old enough that it's probably the *source* of some of those cliche's! I'm not going to claim it created all of them, but things like the 'Gainax Bounce' and 'BustGunner' are some that came to mind pretty much immediately when I saw the topic.
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Domino wrote:The Gunbuster stuff was good but I found Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise to be Gainix's best work IMHO.
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Here's a cool Bandai Chogokin version of Gunbuster on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bandai-Soul-of-Chog ... .m20.l1116

Looks cool in three dimensional solid form.

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^The holy grail of toys. I've loved Gunbuster ever since I first saw it, always thought it would be impossible to make a transforming toy based on what we saw in the movie. Then this came along. Then I saved up and paid the £150 for it. Then I played with it maybe twice. Then all its fingers and wings snapped off because its made of wafer thin shitty plastic.
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^The holy grail of toys. I've loved Gunbuster ever since I first saw it, always thought it would be impossible to make a transforming toy based on what we saw in the movie. Then this came along. Then I saved up and paid the £150 for it. Then I played with it maybe twice. Then all its fingers and wings snapped off because its made of wafer thin shitty plastic.
I've had this toy for a about 2 or 3 years now. If you snapped that much off it you did not treat it like a 250.00 dollar toy.

It's incredibly sturdy and well built. you don't get that much better than soul of chogokin. Are you sure you aren';t referring to that "perfect change" version another company did. You must have been pretty rough on it and not treated it well.
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Domino wrote:The Gunbuster stuff was good but I found Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise to be Gainix's best work IMHO.
FLCL.

That is all.
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Strider77 wrote:I've had this toy for a about 2 or 3 years now. If you snapped that much off it you did not treat it like a 250.00 dollar toy.

It's incredibly sturdy and well built. you don't get that much better than soul of chogokin. Are you sure you aren';t referring to that "perfect change" version another company did. You must have been pretty rough on it and not treated it well.
No, I treat it like gold dust - and yes, its the SOC. All the joints with pins are extremely fragile (check yours for cracking).

I repaired it fine, the thing still looks brilliant and you'd need a microscope to see the damage - but I can still recognise shitty engineering when I see it.
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E. Randy Dupre wrote:
Domino wrote:The Gunbuster stuff was good but I found Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise to be Gainix's best work IMHO.
FLCL.

That is all.
While it's one of Gainix's experiment OVAs its story for the most part was flawed. It makes it hard for people like me to even think about watching it again if I choose to.
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PainAmplifier wrote:
BulletMagnet wrote:I'm not that big of an anime buff, but when a friend of mine showed me Gunbuster a few years ago I recall being able to call most of the cliches at least a minute or two before they actually appeared onscreen.
Gunbuster is old enough that it's probably the *source* of some of those cliche's! I'm not going to claim it created all of them, but things like the 'Gainax Bounce' and 'BustGunner' are some that came to mind pretty much immediately when I saw the topic.
No. It's a paraody of those cliche's. Didn't you notice how the first episode was rather compressed an over the top? It's meant as a joke... almost all of it but it takes a pretty dramatic turn at the end.
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PainAmplifier wrote:Gunbuster is old enough that it's probably the *source* of some of those cliche's! I'm not going to claim it created all of them, but things like the 'Gainax Bounce' and 'BustGunner' are some that came to mind pretty much immediately when I saw the topic.
Actually Gunbuster's a couple decades too young for that. Mecha anime dates back to the 1960s (we even had it in America then). Anno probably grew up watching it. The "Gainax Bounce" is more of a Gainax cliche in general than a mecha one.
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