TATE Mode in my tv

Uzumakijl · Post by **Uzumakijl** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:54 am

Hello, This is my first post in this awesome site about shmups, I've been peeking around here for like 3 months so i had to register hehe, Well i have a little question about TATE mode, I've been playing Shikigami no shiro II and Ikaruga in my gamecube in my tv, so i was wondering if is safe to turn it 90º to play in TATE here is a pic of my tv.

Thanks in advance, I will be posting in this forums for a long time so i hope we can get along

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Late Edit: Thanks for the replies some of them where really useful, Thanks.

Shelcoof · Post by **Shelcoof** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:18 am

If that's a CRT then I think it should be fine, if its a normal TV then I dunno.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:19 am

turn it on its side, then turn it on and see if the color and picture are ok with games running

if they are you should be fine...most TV's are fine in tate

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:21 am

Nobody is going to be able to determine the answer for you 100%.

Firstly, it looks quite small (no offense), but usually this is a good thing because smaller TV's don't have as much weight and are usually more likely to TATE from my experience.

I would completely unplug the TV whilst rotating. Then plug it in. Listen for anything loose inside the TV when turning it over, give it a little jiggle if you want.

Once plugged in and rotated (right side up, left side down), turn it back on and look for discolouring on the corners. Things like green or purple hazes. If the TV has any of those colours going wrong then just leave it for 30 minutes unplugged and then try again.

If anything moves inside the TV when turning it over, then don't TATE it, leave it as is and don't take the risk. It won't catch fire or blow up. It is recommended you don't keep turning it over and over.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:25 am

Shelcoof wrote:If that's a CRT then I think it should be fine, if its a normal TV then I dunno.

This is the strangest quote I have heard all day. Are CRT TV's not normal?

CRT's are the most fragile kinds of TV to rotate. A plasma or LCD TV doesn't care which way up it is since it doesn't get affected by the pull of magnetism.

Shelcoof · Post by **Shelcoof** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:35 am

neorichieb1971 wrote:
Shelcoof wrote:If that's a CRT then I think it should be fine, if its a normal TV then I dunno.
This is the strangest quote I have heard all day. Are CRT TV's not normal?

CRT's are the most fragile kinds of TV to rotate. A plasma or LCD TV doesn't care which way up it is since it doesn't get affected by the pull of magnetism.

I meant CRT Monitor, not CRT TV my mistake. I was told a long time ago that there were settings that you can ahh whatever

Uzumakijl · Post by **Uzumakijl** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:05 am

Here i leave some pics of my tv from inside, this should make things more clear:

PS.That tv is the one i have in my room so it doesn't matter if it's small or not, I use that tv only for watching tv/gaming in late night and that tv works pretty well, I was thinking about TATE this tv cause the one in my living room is twice as bigger and it has more weight than this one that's why i rather like this tv

,Btw i lift it and i didn't heard anything loose inside.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:21 am

Shelcoof wrote:
neorichieb1971 wrote:
Shelcoof wrote:If that's a CRT then I think it should be fine, if its a normal TV then I dunno.
This is the strangest quote I have heard all day. Are CRT TV's not normal?

CRT's are the most fragile kinds of TV to rotate. A plasma or LCD TV doesn't care which way up it is since it doesn't get affected by the pull of magnetism.
I meant CRT Monitor, not CRT TV my mistake. I was told a long time ago that there were settings that you can ahh whatever

A CRT TV And monitor are systematically the same. The only difference is one has a tuner for picking up antenna shows with a PAL/NTSC to RGB decoder and the other doesn't and requires an external source via RGB to get its picture. Obviously a monitor might have better quality build and more controls for adjusting the picture. In Terms of tate'ing a monitor, its probably better to do a monitor than a TV since a TV has speakers and other parts that might complicate things. Monitors are just the tube usually, so its a neater package.

As for the OP.. He takes apart the whole TV and asks silly questions. If your confident enough to take the TV apart then TATEing it should be no problem for you.

captpain · Post by **captpain** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:56 am

Why did you take the TV apart?

Uzumakijl · Post by **Uzumakijl** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:10 am

captpain wrote:Why did you take the TV apart?

Cause i tought you guys probably where able to say if my tv was TATEable or not after seeing it from inside, But now i think that was usseles

, Btw I TATE'ed my tv yesterday, and today the screen was greenish, But it went back to the normal in some minutes, That can mean something bad to my tv?, I mean TATE can make some damage to your tv?

toredauei · Post by **toredauei** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:38 am

you're lucky you didnt shock the shit out of yourself taking that tv apart.

Uzumakijl · Post by **Uzumakijl** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:41 am

toredauei wrote:you're lucky you didnt shock the shit out of yourself taking that tv apart.

Lol, Nah i knew what i was doing and i was extremelly carefull, I've opened many things before and this tv was pretty easy to open

Naiera · Post by **Naiera** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:05 am

But a tube like that can kill you if you pull apart the wrong things.

Shelcoof · Post by **Shelcoof** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:06 am

Naiera wrote:But a tube like that can kill you if you pull apart the wrong things.

care to explain?

SharkSkin-Man · Post by **SharkSkin-Man** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:36 am

AFAIK the shock from a CRT is unlikely to kill you unless you have a heart defect. It'll more likely just really, really, really hurt.

Ex-Cyber · Post by **Ex-Cyber** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:09 am

The bigger risk is probably from supply filter capacitors. Reliable sources have it that the flyback transformer can shock you hard enough to send you across a small room (maybe that's how it got the name?

), but doesn't have enough charge to cause lasting damage (at least not electrically; convulsions can cause all sorts of more conventional trauma).

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:58 pm

if you happened to touch the anode and it discharges through your body and goes across your chest from one hand to the other(one touching the anode, the other touching another piece of metal)it carries enough charge to stop your heart

serious business

if you werent aware of this you have no business opening up TV's or monitors....you could quite easily kill yourself

Shelcoof · Post by **Shelcoof** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:53 pm

jonny5 wrote:if you happened to touch the anode and it discharges through your body and goes across your chest from one hand to the other(one touching the anode, the other touching another piece of metal)it carries enough charge to stop your heart

serious business

if you werent aware of this you have no business opening up TV's or monitors....you could quite easily kill yourself

Point taken

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:36 pm

I don't understand, you were afraid turning the TV on its side would hurt it, but were not concerned that putting it on its front and taking the thing apart would?

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:40 pm

ncp wrote:I don't understand, you were afraid turning the TV on its side would hurt it, but were not concerned that putting it on its front and taking the thing apart would?

i dont think he knows what he is doing here

being able to unscrew screws holding together electronics does not mean you know what you are doing.....

im very glad you werent hurt tho.....

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:56 am

Hmm, I guess I should just ask here instead of making a new thread since it's relevant:

When I tried to TATE one of my TVs, I quickly noticed the picture would get warped for certain things. I was playing DOJ and wherever my laser was, it would basically bend the screen upward wherever the laser was. To give an example, if I went to the bottom of the screen directly below the "Player 1" at the top, when I lasered, it would literally push the text upward off the screen. It would come back onto the screen when the laser moved away, but wherever the laser went it pushed the screen upward. So I turned it back. Anyone know what the problem is, is it fixable, or is the TV just not fond of being turned on its side (thus leaving me with yoko on that particular TV)?

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:05 am

Sometimes when the colours on the screen bloom, like a really bright area of white. It pushes outwards usually 3 or 4 scanlines wide. I don't know of any fix for this.

Perhaps turn the brightness down, or the contrast. Maybe the RGB lines are amplified too much.

You have to remember that when TATEing a TV or monitor, its not in its usual resting place. Whatever holds the picture in place when its hori has become weaker when its vertical.

captpain · Post by **captpain** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:06 am

jonny5 wrote: being able to unscrew screws holding together electronics does not mean you know what you are doing.....

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:11 pm

Unplug the TV, wait ten minutes, turn it to the left and plug it back in, and try it then. If the screen doesn't look warped then you are probably okay. Basically when you turn it, it needs to degauss, and unplugging it and plugging it back in makes it degauss. But leave it unplugged for a while before you turn it, just to be safe.

Works great for me.

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