DUX for Dreamcast

mjclark · Post by **mjclark** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:02 pm

Mine has just arrived in UK too

At last I can pilot this ship into the obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But what exactly is "obvious shooting"?

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:10 pm

Jochen wrote:Scooring in this game seems a little weird - you make most of
your points in level 1. For me this is no problem - I am only
interested in scooring then I can get extra lifes from it. But I can
understand if others have trouble with that.

Have you figured out why your score skyrockets during stage one, yet? I guess the 20 extra lives do come from that huge score-increase. I wonder if you can do this trick on purpose.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:58 pm

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 108#488108

How disappointing, looks like the wait was not worth it at all.

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:41 pm

While this scoring bug buffers me, I don't think it's a huge loss, as it makes the game easier for most people so I'm fine with that.

However, it's pleasing how survival players enjoy this game.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:45 pm

RHE wrote:While this scoring bug buffers me, I don't think it's a huge loss, as it makes the game easier for most people so I'm fine with that.

However, it's pleasing how survival players enjoy this game.

Man, i think.... you have... something... like... HOLE IN UR F* HEAD...

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:45 pm

On the official Dux site it says:

6 stages fullfilled with space alien scum and hazardly threats
3 upgradable weapon types
Upgradeable force device
Multiple checkpoints within each stage
Super smooth high-resolution CGI visuals
Up to 3 loops with different difficutlies
Risk & Reward scoring system
VGA support
Region Free

Where are my three loops, where are my different difficulties and where the heck is my risk and reward scoring system.

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:46 pm

RHE wrote:While this scoring bug buffers me, I don't think it's a huge loss, as it makes the game easier for most people so I'm fine with that.

However, it's pleasing how survival players enjoy this game.

What? You say that bug which is game-breaking is meant to stay there? What fucking kind of thinking is that? No developer would leave bugs like that and damn, even my 1 nanometer brain would playtest your Dux better than your 1 attometer pussy. Dux is officially a product of an epic fail. I'm sure your brain consists of marshallows, human feces and TAR!

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:49 pm

How much time does it take until P_Hat and Kaiser are going to be banned?

Where are my three loops, where are my different difficulties and where the heck is my risk and reward scoring system. Crying or Very sad

That three loops had to be disabled, because they were unbalanced at the date of the feature lock. The risk and reward system is already there.

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:52 pm

RHE wrote:How much time does it take until P_Hat and Kaiser is going to be banned?

About as much I would masturbate to you (read: 65535 lightyears). Try harder developing the game next time. MAYBE you should'nt hire those gorilla motherf..... this time for playtesting, they sure like throwing your Dux copies at you!

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:53 pm

The game is playtested. And while the game is pointless for score players, its still fine for other players.

Do you even play the game?

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:56 pm

RHE wrote:The game is playtested. And while the game is pointless for score players, its still fine for other players.

Do you even play the game?

I came, I played, I shat all over it imaginating that it's your open mouth. Seriously, try harder developing the game next time. Listen to people and don't make such shitty abominations like Last Gay f... in the a... called RHE or Non-playtested-Dux

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:58 pm

The level of agressive fanboys and elite shmuppers at this board is amazing.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:58 pm

RHE wrote:The game is playtested. And while the game is pointless for score players, its still fine for other players.

Do you even play the game?

Plasmo is one of best players\users around. He used to like (!!!!!!!!!) dat piece of shit (last hope), he waiting for DUX. You betrayed him.

Now, can i ask you? WHY THE FUCK YOU HAVEN'T OFFERED TO HIM TO BE A DAMN BETA-F*-TESTER OF DUX?

Why you are so nutshell-head? Why?

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:00 pm

RHE, all i will say is that plasmo picked up on this problem in 1 days play (1-2 hours). who does your play-testing?

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:01 pm

Non score players I quess.

In fact plenty people approved the game, even at conventions etc. but none of them are dedicaed score players. However, I agree that Plasmo should have involed in playtesting. Note, the scoring system itself works, it's just that nobody thought about to ignore checkpoints and go back to chain etc. which is very unusal becasue in every checkpoint based game, you can't ignore them. So yeah, a mistake has been made but it's going to be corrected soon.

This bug doesnt make the game more fun, but it also doesn't make it less fun, unless scoring is the only thing you care of.

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:02 pm

RHE wrote:The level of agressive fanboys and elite shmuppers at this board is amazing.

And your level of being a good develop is amazing, it's about er... fuck how this could get low, right gonna say it, it's about -1048576. You're pathetic you know that, don't fear admitting it little boy, i won't hurt you. C'mon little boy, let me touch your miniscule -1 lightyear sized brain... Don't be such an upset boy, c'mon i need to touch your ass. OH YEAH THAT'S WHAT i WANT

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:09 pm

Man, I miss Hitler. At least his games were accessible to large audiences.

clp · Post by **clp** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:11 pm

MX7 wrote:moar liek sux amirite

The gift of foresight .

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:12 pm

you have to see things from the consumers point of view RHE....

this game has been delayed a LOT.....and when it is finally released the modes and loops that were supposed to be in the game are not, there is a glaring bug in the very first stage that basically breaks the game, and you are trying to make it out like people are blowing things out of proportion....

who exactly play tested this? and how did they not catch this glaring bug in the first stage?

were they by any chance the same playtesters that did last hope?

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:13 pm

RHE: yeah, it would be great for you to have plasmo on board. i actually thought you did, for some reason.

the problem is one of motivation. will a player really be motivated to try and learn/play the later levels when 99.9% of the score is made from stage 1?

score is what really motivates people to play. even in "survival" type games like r-type.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:19 pm

In all honesty, you shouldn't be so harsh to RHE. The game has only been in development for 15-something months. I'm more than sure a good part of this time was put into creating a fun Risk & Reward™ scoring system, probably at the cost of balanced difficulty.

And every one of you who preordered a game, you should be thankful RHE decided to accept your money and send you his game in the first place.

Yeah.

antares · Post by **antares** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:22 pm

mjclark wrote:
At last I can pilot this ship into the obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But what exactly is "obvious shooting"?

Is asked myself the same question. I guess it will be answered when we reach stage 6: The obviously obvious

Casey120 · Post by **Casey120** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:24 pm

RHE wrote: So yeah, a mistake has been made but it's going to be corrected soon.

How ?
Are you going to stop sending it out to customers and replace the disk for the ones you did send ?

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:27 pm

Casey120 wrote:
RHE wrote: So yeah, a mistake has been made but it's going to be corrected soon.

How ?
Are you going to stop sending it out to customers and replace the disk for the ones you did send ?

For like ~50% off.

Awesome offer!!!!

ZOM · Post by **ZOM** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:32 pm

It's a shooting game where you shoot things for points!for god's sake!

BTW - many thanks goes to Plasmo for making my day after looking at the highscore thread. I was a bit depressed because a few 'personal' things but now no more: you brought a smile to my face again

Casey120 · Post by **Casey120** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:34 pm

E. Randy Dupre · Post by **E. Randy Dupre** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:43 pm

You couldn't make this shit up. It's the perfect end to a perfect story.

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:45 pm

In all honesty, you shouldn't be so harsh to RHE. The game has only been in development for 15-something months. I'm more than sure a good part of this time was put into creating a fun Risk & Reward™ scoring system.

And every one of you who preordered a game, you should be thankful RHE decided to accept your money and send you his game in the first place.

Yeah.

Are your serious or sarcastic?

the problem is one of motivation. will a player really be motivated to try and learn/play the later levels when 99.9% of the score is made from stage 1?

Rather not. But what buffers the most is the counter-stop as I hate counterstops to the reason you're calling.

you have to see things from the consumers point of view RHE....

Ineed. For my customers I'm going to offer a solution soon.

The thing here is, that people can feel free to TALK with me about problems. But the harshness is inacceptable, even for die-hard nerds. We're only talking about a really small sloppiness, which makes a huge difference by misusing it, its very easy to be corrected.

who exactly play tested this? and how did they not catch this glaring bug in the first stage?

were they by any chance the same playtesters that did last hope?

You don't know these people but it's a mix between noobs and expierenced shmup players, but all of them are survival players. Additionally, its play tested by people at conventions etc.

How ?
Are you going to stop sending it out to customers and replace the disk for the ones you did send ?

I consider something like that, but give me more time on this.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:46 pm

i just feel bad for the people who bought this game....and even worse for those poor souls who pre-ordered this and have been waiting forever

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:47 pm

Why this?

Most people like this game. Plasmo does too. It's just disappoint for scoring only players.