CMoon wrote:I've seen but kept avoiding that village vanguard set mostly because I already have way too much coltrane (classic quartet box, heavyweight champion box, all the post-classic quartet albums.) I don't know how much duplication of material I need, but at times it can be worth it--for instance, with Albert Ayler, the players matter more than the song, since most of every piece is just a huge improvised frenzy! It'd be great to hear Dolphy shredding...
I feel like adding here (dunno why) that Coltrane is one of the few Jazz artists who has box sets that actually make his catalog more approachable and affordable. While the Miles box sets are damn sexy, most of them are designed for the 'extreme' fan who wants 4 or 5 versions of every song (actually, these are pretty cool, but still off putting to someone who wants to hear the breadth of the material, not the depth.) The Classic Quartet and Heavyweight Champion boxes actually allow you to pick up two of Coltrane's most important periods in one fell swoop, along with plenty of bonus material. Although it isn't quite 'classical cheap', they still come out to less than $10 an album, and the boxes are nice.
The only Davis set that came close to these is the Quintet box which once again managed to house a bunch of classic albums under one roof for cheap.
The Quintet box is essential, and I would also say that the In A Silent Way box is close if only because it brings so much relevant material together. The others are a little more exhaustive for sure...
Love Ayler too. The Holy Ghost box is frankly a box set benchmark, and Spiritual Unity may well be my favourite trio album of all time. The bass is bliss, and I get a shiver every time I hear it slide into unison in the repetition of the Ghost Part 1 theme.
As for Dolphy, I find him quite confounding. With Mingus he plays in a certain way, with Coltrane another, on his own records he varies (in my opinion, for what it's worth) between tight free improv and pure boredom.
sjewkestheloon wrote:
Love Ayler too. The Holy Ghost box is frankly a box set benchmark, and Spiritual Unity may well be my favourite trio album of all time. The bass is bliss, and I get a shiver every time I hear it slide into unison in the repetition of the Ghost Part 1 theme.
You know, I wouldn't actually recommend that to any non-ape-shit Ayler fans. Of course, I AM an ape-shit Ayler fan, and at least 4 or 5 of the discs are totally fucking incredible. But selling each disc individually or having a trimmed down version of the set might have been a more professional approach given how essential much of the material is... ...sorry, sometimes I get bothered by material like this geting launched into collector scum status.
And hey Sjewkestheloon, speaking of important box sets, that Henry Cow box is still the absolute shit! (yeah, I mean the good shit!)
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sjewkestheloon wrote:
Love Ayler too. The Holy Ghost box is frankly a box set benchmark, and Spiritual Unity may well be my favourite trio album of all time. The bass is bliss, and I get a shiver every time I hear it slide into unison in the repetition of the Ghost Part 1 theme.
You know, I wouldn't actually recommend that to any non-ape-shit Ayler fans. Of course, I AM an ape-shit Ayler fan, and at least 4 or 5 of the discs are totally fucking incredible. But selling each disc individually or having a trimmed down version of the set might have been a more professional approach given how essential much of the material is... ...sorry, sometimes I get bothered by material like this geting launched into collector scum status.
And hey Sjewkestheloon, speaking of important box sets, that Henry Cow box is still the absolute shit! (yeah, I mean the good shit!)
Henry Cow I fucking want.
However, I'm skint and I still haven't got Concerts. As a Robert Wyatt fan I am doubly ashamed.
Just found a nice vinyl copy of The Fall's Wonderful and Frightening World of the... for very cheap. Very pleased. The Beggar's Banquet era stuff sounds so shit on CD that vinyl is the only way to listen. Just need Bend Sinister now and I've covered that era on vinyl. Now to track down reasonably priced copies of Levitate and Marshall Suite.
In case anyone didn't know, The Fall are the supreme (non)musical act. Grotesque (After The Gramme) is top draw if you like your punk wordy and cataclysmic, Hex Enduction Hour for fans of the apocalypse.
Molehill - Comfort Measured in Razor Lines
Mistress - In Disgust We Trust
Both are quality, though I wish Mistress would have held on to more of the sludge from the earlier releases. Also of note, shmups forum's barmskii contributed thug chants and a solo to the Mistress CD.
Symphony of Grief - Infernal Creations
Various NWOBHM singles. Wanting to make a mix of stuff, but not sure if I can find 10+ quality songs. Lots of garbage to be found.
I've been listening to a shitload of Moloch. Both their Demo and the 10" which I just got in the mail. They are on a short list of bands who I can't WAIT to hear more material from. Check 'em out:
I've also been listening to the self-titled Ducktails record, which I guess is a compilation of material previously released on 7"s and cassettes. It's some hipster bullshit that will probably fall out of trend next week, but at the moment I'm digging it as a soundtrack for a summer afternoon nap.
gabe wrote:I've been listening to a shitload of Moloch. Both their Demo and the 10" which I just got in the mail. They are on a short list of bands who I can't WAIT to hear more material from. Check 'em out:
Moloch is cool. Didn't know about the Army of Flying Robots connection. They're fucking great too.
I don't know much about the other Decemberists albums but I really love the new one, Hazards of Love. A friend had no one to go with when they came here so I went to the show. They played the new album in full. It's way more impressive live than I gave it credit for just listening to it casually.
Haunting stuff, each track quite distinct. First a cut up a children chants and rhyms, the second almost toe tappy in a collage way, and the last a sinister doom masterpiece.
Just got the following so will be listening to them shortly:
James Blackshaw - The Glass Bead Game
(Throbbing Gristle spin off?) Evel Kenievel - Evel Speaks To The Kids
Also been enjoying the new Super Furry Animals record and an of Montreal mix CD.
Shostakovich: 24 preludes & Fugues performed by Nikolayeva
The first prelude makes me wonder if there is a meeting place between Bach's WTC and Monk...
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Just picked this up after spending a lot of time with Faust and Tapes and enjoying it so far. Got the reissue edition with the Peel sessions on the second CD, always a plus point.
I've always fancied "The Works." It's no "Wall" or "Dark Side," but an interesting listen nonetheless. When I listen to Yoshimi vs. the Pink Robots, I can't help but be reminded of a few bits from "The Works."
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Just picked this up after spending a lot of time with Faust and Tapes and enjoying it so far. Got the reissue edition with the Peel sessions on the second CD, always a plus point.
Do you have the Munich and Elsewhere album yet? Well everything by the 'classic' faust is great of course and all worth owning. Tried listening to 4 the other day and was a little uninspired, but mostly because I've heard it so many times there isn't a note I don't know. Munich is a weird album though and highly recommended.
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Works is just a mishmash compilation of stuff from earlier albums
The significance of Works is that it compiles some of the Syd singles, and a few of the other singles, but it has some pretty massive omissions as well (where's point me at the sky?) Guess Vegetable Man is gone for good now though--too bad, Syd was always my favorite part of Floyd.
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Not heard that one, what era are we talking? They have a new one out that I might get from eMusic this month just to see how things have changed.
As for Floyd, give me Piper At The Gates Of Dawn any day. Classic psych.
Don't get me wrong, there are excellent moments dotted about the discog and I'm not a Barrett nazi, but few things scratch my 60s itch like that one.
I'd second Animals as better than the Wall also, I always enjoyed a few riffs from The Wall but found the constant repetition of 'themes' to be teeth grindingly dull. Are you sure you want to watch the film with the holiest of holies? Tell me why, I don't like the sweaty benefactor.
