WTF? A complete used copy of TTI Magical Chase on eBay!

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:04 pm

Here is an eBay auction for the rarest TTI produced Magical Chase game with a current price of $1,136.00 USD with 20 bids already put in! That's gotta be a record for just a used copy of it and in complete condition. It ain't my auction either. ^_~

http://cgi.ebay.com/MAGICAL-CHASE-turbo ... 0310586420

I recall that a brand new sealed copy of TTI Magical Chase went for $650-$700 back in the day. ^_~

Of course, it's be a long time since a complete copy of USA region MC has appeared for sale on eBay. Damn crazy if you were to ask me. Makes me wonder if the seller is shilling bidding on his or her own MC auction to jack up the price? Hmmm...

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

captpain · Post by **captpain** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:11 pm

I wonder how many complete copies exist....

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:11 pm

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:15 pm

I do know that fellow shmupper hermosaguy is looking for a TTI version MC copy but really wasn't willing to pay the collector's asking prices though.

I recall seeing brand new copies of Magical Chase at my local Toys-R-Us for a mere $19.99 USD back in early 1994. Quite a steal at that price back in the day. The bad thing was I passed up on that deal because I thought that it was a "little kids" game. My loss though. I did eventually score a complete copy of Magical Chase complete with factory box, plastic insert, instruction manual and protective sleeve and found out that it was a great little "cute 'em up" type of shmup worthy of any personal Turbografx-16/Turbo Duo gaming collection. ^_~

It's possible to score a barebones TTI ver. MC Hu-Card at a local pawn shop on the cheap. Just gotta keep your eyes open and pounce on it if you do see it though. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:28 pm

captpain wrote:I wonder how many complete copies exist....

Well given the extremely low print run that TTI did for it, the odds of finding a mint and complete copy of TTI ver. MC are better than trying to find it brand new and in sealed condition. That would be the one to get right there.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

nash87 · Post by **nash87** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:34 pm

ncp wrote:

Post by **undamned** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:48 pm

nash87 wrote:
ncp wrote:

It's not even mint. I can see people going monkey fu over a sealed mint one, but used? People need some punching in their crotches.
-ud

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:06 pm

undamned wrote:
nash87 wrote:
ncp wrote:
It's not even mint. I can see people going monkey fu over a sealed mint one, but used? People need some punching in their crotches.
-ud

That sure would wake 'em up, ud. Lol ^_~

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:19 pm

that game isn't even THAT good.... collectors really fuck some things up.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:26 pm

After taking a closer look as to who's bidding on this particular TTI version Magical Chase game, it's only four bidders altogether with bidder #4 who has the top bidding submissions. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:33 pm

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:After taking a closer look as to who's bidding on this particular TTI version Magical Chase game, it's only four bidders altogether with bidder #4 who has the top bidding submissions. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

There's ten different bidders in the history...

Anyway, over a thousand bucks is just ridiculous.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:18 pm

Sounds like someone has got some $$$ to burn in getting this TTI ver. MC game. ^_~

KindGrind · Post by **KindGrind** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:31 pm

I think this is well over twice the price of the "going rate", and indeed it is not mint at all. I've seen way better deals on this.... matter of fact, this is probably the worst I've come across for that particular title. Cute little game, but I wouldn't spend more than... 250$ on it.

Casey120 · Post by **Casey120** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:42 pm

Why do people bid so very early , it only raises the price ?

Don't they know how to snipe in the last seconds ?

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:44 pm

Casey120 wrote:Why do people bid so very early , it only raises the price ?

Don't they know how to snipe in the last seconds ?

Don't you know how an auction works?

Casey120 · Post by **Casey120** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:00 pm

ncp wrote:
Casey120 wrote:Why do people bid so very early , it only raises the price ?

Don't they know how to snipe in the last seconds ?

Don't you know how an auction works?

In on line auctions better than you i see

Dragoforce · Post by **Dragoforce** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:33 pm

It's actually not a bad strategy to jack up the price early on. A low priced item will always attract more snipers than something which already got a high price.

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:01 pm

Casey120 wrote:
ncp wrote:
Casey120 wrote:Why do people bid so very early , it only raises the price ?

Don't they know how to snipe in the last seconds ?

Don't you know how an auction works?
In on line auctions better than you i see

The only thing "sniping" is good for is ebay trolling. You cannot even try to prove me wrong. If you're not retarded, you put your max bid in and don't need to bid ever again. Any bidding beyond the first only reflects an increase in the amount of money you are WILLING TO SPEND. Unless, for some odd reason, you suddenly obtain more spending money at the last second of an auction, there is absolutely no point. Ebay's bidding system actually DOES work as it's intended despite what you may think.

Casey120 · Post by **Casey120** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:42 pm

You bet your max. price early tempting other bidders to see how high you put it and cranking up the price along the way , in the end you will be overbid by 50 cent .

I always put my max price in the last 15 seconds but thats just me

But anyway , i don't know how a auction works , am a Retard and a Troll , you are right and there can be no discussion about it ...so ...

Never mind , you just do it your way !

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:33 am

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float max(float early_bid, float new_bid)
{
  if (early_bid >= new_bid) return early_bid;
  else return new_bid;
}

Highest max bidder still wins regardless of when the bid was placed.

That said though, it seems that most early bidders' max bids are not really max.

All pointless discussion. What would PCE-FX say? (really gotta get a T-shirt with that slogan)

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:40 am

Casey120 wrote:You bet your max. price early tempting other bidders to see how high you put it and cranking up the price along the way , in the end you will be overbid by 50 cent .

I always put my max price in the last 15 seconds but thats just me

But anyway , i don't know how a auction works , am a Retard and a Troll , you are right and there can be no discussion about it ...so ...

Never mind , you just do it your way !

by ebaytrolling I mean:

"hey i might win this-- nevermind someone put in a bid at the last second even though he could have put in the same bid earlier, still beaten me, but I wouldn't have gotten my hopes up." (Well, that's the receiving end)

The entire bidding system was designed around not having to "snipe" bids, and yet people do it anyway. It's pretty dumb, bro.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:57 am

ncp wrote:The only thing "sniping" is good for is ebay trolling. You cannot even try to prove me wrong. If you're not retarded, you put your max bid in and don't need to bid ever again. Any bidding beyond the first only reflects an increase in the amount of money you are WILLING TO SPEND. Unless, for some odd reason, you suddenly obtain more spending money at the last second of an auction, there is absolutely no point. Ebay's bidding system actually DOES work as it's intended despite what you may think.

I don't agree with this logic at all. I will say that there is very little that can be done to get an upper-hand on opposing bidders for an item but I'll say that bidding early(max bid right away) raises the potential/odds for opposing bidders to be outbid/raise the bid caused by those individuals counter-bidding.

Speaking for myself, I'm an extreme cheapass and 9 times out of 10 I don't want to go anywhere near my max, until the very end. Why risk bumping the price up causing other bidders to re-bid if I don't have to? I want the item for as cheap as possible and again, I try to control what I have control over and if I don't bid until late then I have a good chance to get the item at a lower price than intended. I've seen it work over being on ebay the good portion of the last 8 years so I'm not just shooting the breeze. In the end, opposing bidders will bid when they want and how much they want and if the price goes too high before end that's just the way it was supposed to go.

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:18 am

Limbrooke wrote:
ncp wrote:The only thing "sniping" is good for is ebay trolling. You cannot even try to prove me wrong. If you're not retarded, you put your max bid in and don't need to bid ever again. Any bidding beyond the first only reflects an increase in the amount of money you are WILLING TO SPEND. Unless, for some odd reason, you suddenly obtain more spending money at the last second of an auction, there is absolutely no point. Ebay's bidding system actually DOES work as it's intended despite what you may think.
I don't agree with this logic at all. I will say that there is very little that can be done to get an upper-hand on opposing bidders for an item but I'll say that bidding early(max bid right away) raises the potential/odds for opposing bidders to be outbid/raise the bid caused by those individuals counter-bidding.

Speaking for myself, I'm an extreme cheapass and 9 times out of 10 I don't want to go anywhere near my max, until the very end. Why risk bumping the price up causing other bidders to re-bid if I don't have to? I want the item for as cheap as possible and again, I try to control what I have control over and if I don't bid until late then I have a good chance to get the item at a lower price than intended. I've seen it work over being on ebay the good portion of the last 8 years so I'm not just shooting the breeze. In the end, opposing bidders will bid when they want and how much they want and if the price goes too high before end that's just the way it was supposed to go.

I don't understand...

Why would your "opponent" re-bid in the first place? If you can only spend so much money, you can only spend so much money. I guess from that perspective, it's a good countermeasure against people who don't put in their max bid in the first place, which is just pointless. But lolinternet I guess, people will always do illogical things for no reason so I suppose it kind of makes sense. Although I think in most cases people who don't put their max bid in to begin with are going to be attempting to snipe, at which point they WILL put in their max bid, so the end result is the same regardless.

edit: i still say it's ebaytrolling, and it probably backfires sometimes too "LET ME JUST SNIPE THIS~ what the shit i didn't even outbid him, self-troll'd"

also fixed grammar.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:34 am

I knew this game was pricey, but I didn't realize it was -that- expensive. Ugh.

I think the most expensive Turbo Duo games I bought were the English version of Dungeon Explorer II (since I loved the first one) and Beyond Shadowgate (which, again, was because I loved the original). Those were worth it. $1000+ for Magical Chase? Maybe if I win the lottery. Then I'll consider it.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:39 am

ncp wrote:I don't understand...

Why would your "opponent" re-bid in the first place? If you can only spend so much money, you can only spend so much money. I guess from that perspective, it's a good countermeasure against people who don't put in their max bid in the first place, which is just pointless. But lolinternet I guess, people will always do illogical things for no reason so I suppose it kind of makes sense. Although I think in most cases people who don't put their max bid in to begin with are going to be attempting to snipe, at which point they WILL put in their max bid, so the end result is the same regardless.

edit: i still say it's ebaytrolling, and it probably backfires sometimes too "LET ME JUST SNIPE THIS~ what the shit i didn't even outbid him, self-troll'd"

also fixed grammar.

The fact you assume individuals bid with their highest bid is bullshit. Of course it happens but not all the time and of course how are you supposed to know what other users high bids or what their strategy is. The whole idea of attempting to bid late or winning late is to get the item at a lower price. I've seen plenty of users bid early on and never again and sometimes win, likely less than their high bid. I'd also say that people who win auctions at their high bid are next to none, especially if they put the max bid in very early and around the range of the expected value/final price.

Lets put this in the King's english for you once and for all.
I don't bid early, because
- if bids are already in place and I outbid those other user(s), if the bids I beat weren't said user(s) high bids [which again, isn't uncommon since people like to get deals or generally pay LESS than the market value for items on eBay] then I run the risk of those user(s) bidding in retaliation and consequently bumping the current bid price and ultimately final price higher. This is very, very bad since I want to pay as little as possible. People are stupid and often those people have more money than me and are willing to spend more as a result. So bumping an auction without reason for fear of getting the high bid has no merit in my book unless I'm not available for the end of the auction or I've determined there isn't enough interest to warrant alternate user bids on a given auction. The bottom line here is I never, ever want to pay anywhere close to my max bid as such I bid as little as possible and as close to the auction end to ensure the auction stays as low as possible within my own control.

end

ncp · Post by **ncp** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:06 am

Just to be clear here, you do know that when you enter a max bid you aren't necessarily going to pay that much... right... ? It automatically bids in the smallest interval possible up to your max bid. If you bid 1000 and nobody bids anything above 100, you'll get it for 110 or 105 or whatever the interval is...

edit: and because of this, it doesn't MATTER if they bid multiple times or not, only that you as the bidder enter your real maximum bid and aren't fickle.

nash87 · Post by **nash87** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:05 am

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:
undamned wrote:
nash87 wrote:
It's not even mint. I can see people going monkey fu over a sealed mint one, but used? People need some punching in their crotches.
-ud
That sure would wake 'em up, ud. Lol ^_~

I was shocked because of the price it's going for

Crotch punching reminds me of Wal-mart...

PooshhMao · Post by **PooshhMao** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:04 am

THIS THREAD IS NOT INTERESTING AT ALL.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:09 pm

$1,329... for a game.

Some people definitely have more money than brains.

Post by **undamned** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:35 pm

The Coop wrote:$1,329... for a game.

Some people definitely have more money than brains.

Talk to Cave collectors.
-ud