Helicopter Shumpfight : Zero Gunner vs Under Defeat

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Helicopter Shumps!

Zero Gunner Series (Psikyo)
42
37%
Under Defeat (G.Rev)
50
43%
Both wins
23
20%
 
Total votes: 115

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Helicopter Shumpfight : Zero Gunner vs Under Defeat

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Helicopter Shump Fight!
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UD wins on gameplay and tate alone! (never seen zg1)
-Tate:Under Defeat has Tate, win
-Graphics: it's a tie. Under Defeat has prettier graphics, but a little less Japanish stylish
Zero Gunner 2 has brighter colors and more mech enemies.
-Gameplay Under Defeat wins; it has the best control scheme. Zero Gunners control scheme just plainout sucks. 360, wow, really! not cool.
Under Defeat's gamneplay is very intuitive and fast whereas with ZG2 you are swining around. Offcourse expert players might disagree.
-Music ZG2 win, although UD has better music than it is being given credit for.
I expect that zg will come out as winning in this poll though. I feel UD is being looked down upon.
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Under Defeat is one of my all time favourites but Zero Gunner 2 is just a bit of fun,eh?
The only thing the two have in common is a helicopter. One is deep and beautiful whereas the other's just lots of playable Psikyo fun.
They're both excellent in their own way but so different that comparing them is a very interesting exercise.
I guess Under Defeat will win this poll hands down though :D
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ZG2 is just SO MUCH better than UD...
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Only thing wrong with ZG2 is it has that whole Psikyo™ sneeze-and-you-missed-the-level thing going on.
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mjclark wrote:I guess Under Defeat will win this poll hands down though :D
That's because people like pretty games.

(Waiting for Rob to step in and say what needs to be said.)
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ZG2>UD>Ketsui :P
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Kron wrote:ZG2>UD>Ketsui :P
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what's with the pause when you die in UD?
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antron wrote:what's with the pause when you die in UD?
So you have time to say "Shit!" :D
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Kron wrote:ZG2>UD>Ketsui :P
It's a personal opinion, but: ZG2<UD<Ketsui :P
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Under Defeat PRO REVIEW by xoxac wrote:An' some feller tried to tell me that it's just a straight-up rip-off of Zero Gunner 2. This game is dyin' to be Zero Gunner 2; this game wants to be Zero Gunner 2. Except if you were to look at this game, you'd think that Zero Gunner 2 wasn't actually released at all and they were copying Zero Gunner 1...I don't know why in the hell they'd wanna do that.

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This is a shump, not a pinball machine; don't tilt the screen!

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Now it's no secret I hate these NAOMI graphics, I hate these 3D PLASTIC CONE TREES. Looks so artificial. You shoot the trees, they kinda shimmy back an' forth like them bullets do. Shakin' they branches...if they actually had branches; THEY JUST CONES.
To sum this up...go play Mars Matrix. :wink:
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Post by antron »

mjclark wrote:The only thing the two have in common is a helicopter.
and the helicopters turn.
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Post by mjclark »

Yes-trying to think of some other great helicopter shmups but the only one I can come up with areTwin Cobra, Silkworm and Swiv...
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Kron wrote:ZG2>UD>Ketsui :P
You do realize that just b/c it's on Naomi hardware doesn't make it superior, right?
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unicrons and unicorns
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mjclark wrote:Yes-trying to think of some other great helicopter shmups but the only one I can come up with areTwin Cobra, Silkworm and Swiv...
KETSUI :!:

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Why yes, a shumpfight sounds interesting, sir.
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SFKhoa wrote:Why yes, a shumpfight sounds interesting, sir.
Meanwhile, in another thread...
ncp wrote:
nimitz wrote:its Shmups, not shumps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAO6akjqdg#t=4m52s

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Post by THE »

Where can I vote?: both sucks!

Seriously I will never understand why UD is so praised after all, I almost fell asleep when I play it. GFX is bland and primitive too. Music is so so and not fitting at all. Hell I'm a total war game sucker, but this game does not deliver.
It must be a DC fanboy thing of some sort... :?: Does it even have a descent score system? Please enlighten me :P

Hmm, anyway Psykio>G.Rev
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Twin Cobra.
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Post by CIT »

Zero Gunner Vs. Under Defeat = 0:1
Zero Gunner 2 Vs. Under Defeat = 1:1
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TOTAL: Zero Gunner Series Vs. Under Defeat = 1:2
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An' some feller tried to tell me that it's just a straight-up rip-off of Zero Gunner 2. This game is dyin' to be Zero Gunner 2; this game wants to be Zero Gunner 2. Except if you were to look at this game, you'd think that Zero Gunner 2 wasn't actually released at all and they were copying Zero Gunner 1...I don't know why in the hell they'd wanna do that.
Great quote. I like UD, but since I got ZG2 a few months ago there's just no comparison. Hell, I don't even like Psikyo very much, and I still love ZG2! The rotating controls are just perfect and intuitive.
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i really wanted to give my vote to Under Defeat... that game is just effin great... but i reember the sheer ammount of fun i had when i first bought my DC and played Zero Gunner 2, and all i can say is that i had to give my vote to "both are great".
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Post by professor ganson »

Wow, Zero Gunner 2 is doing much better than I expected. I didn't know you liked it, CIT. Is it your favorite Psikyo?
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lgb wrote:Twin Cobra.
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