A new Darius - will it ever happen?

twalden · Post by **twalden** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:11 am

Or is Border Down the closest thing we're going to get? A Taito, G-Rev, Zuntata collaboration would be awesome. And no Darius R doesn't count

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:33 am

If they ever made a new one, I would be sure to complete every route for it

I wish for one to be made, but I don't really expect one to be made, or if something is made, it'll prolly be some cheap modern console dowloadable thing.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:28 am

I think unless G.Rev does some sort of Border Down follow-up it's not gonna happen.

And anything G.Rev is de facto already a Taito/Zuntata team-up, since all of G.Rev's staff used to work for them.

twalden · Post by **twalden** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:42 am

With Taito still owning the rights, it would probably a totally different team than the now G-Rev crew that worked on G-Darius. In that case, maybe it's a bad idea that I brought it up.

I really like where the direction the series was going with G-Darius, just sad to see it end. There have been a few Darius audio CD's released over the pass few years, so maybe there's hope.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:25 am

If it comes out, it'll be a $10 download game.

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:10 pm

Wikipedia says one of the crucial members of Zuntata left in 2006 for another band.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:07 pm

It sure would be nice if Taito would do a proper sequel to it's G-Darius arcade PCB. It would seem that a joint collaboration between Taito and G.Rev to do such a proper arcade Darius sequel title would be fitting.

Until then, we'll just have to content with the versions 1 & 2 iterations of Taito FX-1B powered G-Darius PCB for the time being even though that harkens back to 1997 -- it still remains to this very day, the final swan song in the Darius series. ^_~

What arcade hardware would be best for a new propsed Darius game?

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:16 pm

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:What arcade hardware would be best for a new propsed Darius game?

Would have to happen on the Taito Type X2 for sure.

I'm just imagining playing a new Darius game done in fancy HD on a Viewlix cab. Hmm... ^^

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:44 pm

CIT wrote:
PC Engine Fan X! wrote:What arcade hardware would be best for a new propsed Darius game?
Would have to happen on the Taito Type X2 for sure.

I'm just imagining playing a new Darius game done in fancy HD on a Viewlix cab. Hmm... ^^

Upgraded to 640 x 480 resolution or even higher would be nice indeed. Perhaps in 720p or 1080p format would be even better, hmmm? ^_~

Both Taito and G.Rev wouldn't have to worry about their latest joint venture to make a proposed Darius sequel falling into software hackers' hands since the Taito Type X2 hardware is already heavily encrypted anyways. Wonder what it'll take to get the joint venture started? ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:12 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:If it comes out, it'll be a $10 download game.

Darius R II for the DS. At least it'll be Darius II.

WarBovine · Post by **WarBovine** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:36 am

Am I a bad person for wanting a Metal Back II? I mean, it's like Darius...

BIL · Post by **BIL** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:56 pm

Metal Black II: Metal Blacker.

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:28 pm

Would the sequel to G.Darius be H.Darius??

hd · Post by hd » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:22 pm

>software hackers' hands since the Taito Type X2 hardware is already heavily encrypted anyways.

Note: Taito Type X & X2 is already cracked... from Alex ROM Dumping Project..

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:41 pm

hd wrote:>software hackers' hands since the Taito Type X2 hardware is already heavily encrypted anyways.

Note: Taito Type X & X2 is already cracked... from Alex ROM Dumping Project..

So then it won't too long before we can play Taito Type X & X2 games on Mame/Mame32?

Dragoforce · Post by **Dragoforce** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:45 pm

WarBovine wrote:Am I a bad person for wanting a Metal Back II?

Nope. I would say that you are a very good person.

WarBovine wrote:it's like Darius...

Only better

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:38 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:If it comes out, it'll be a $10 download game.

Probably a HD remake of Darius I & II for $15 if it includes both games. Offering the PCE Super Darius/SDII tracks as downloadable extras sounds good.

Since Type X / X2 games are essentially running on PC hardware, I'm not sure if MAME is needed for them. Patching the HDD files could probably do it?

Having the G. Rev team make the game with OGR doing the soundtrack would be best. The home version could offer an optional arrange soundtrack by Super Sweep.

G.Darius is a prequel, so this one could pick up after Gaiden. Darius 4 (Darius Gaiden was originally to be Darius 3)?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:16 am

PC Engine Fan X! wrote: So then it won't too long before we can play Taito Type X & X2 games on Mame/Mame32?

Another 5 years is my guess.

Since Type X / X2 games are essentially running on PC hardware, I'm not sure if MAME is needed for them. Patching the HDD files could probably do it?

You still have to execute the program that handles the ROMs. Some type of emulator is needed.

Post by **undamned** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:09 am

gameoverDude wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:If it comes out, it'll be a $10 download game.
Probably a HD remake of Darius I & II for $15 if it includes both games.

How about actually utilizing HD resolution for something other than just razzing up old graphics: 320x240 x 3 screens = 960x240. That means anyone with a 720p or better TV can play 3 screen Darius at full resolution. And if you are l33t enough to have a 1080p TV, you could double that size for a nice full width 1920x480.
-ud

dai jou bu · Post by **dai jou bu** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:40 am

GaijinPunch wrote:You still have to execute the program that handles the ROMs. Some type of emulator is needed.

Here you go.

Anyway, I'm guessing Taito gave G.Rev a deal to make DUO on their hardware if they made a sequel to one of their shmups. That would be pretty cool.

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:08 pm

Have you guys forgotten that Taito is now owned by Squeenix?

If there is any other Darius game, it's going to be all about a fisherman who becomes a fish one day and has to kill the Death Fish (Thiima), then he becomes the Death Fish and the only way to be free of the curse is to collect The Eight Elemental Silver Hawk Spirits, and goes all emo thinking of his estranged waifu (Sorry, UFO, had to steal that one.), and he plays a card game called Penta Lord, and finds Aqua Moogles, and there is a crossover with the Little Mermaid and...

...

Blegh.

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:37 pm

procloud and tifat

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:53 pm

Yeah, because Einhänder was like that.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:14 pm

Specineff wrote:Have you guys forgotten that Taito is now owned by Squeenix?

I don't remember Square-Enix interfering with either Taito or Eidos in a particularly huge way.

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:43 am

Specineff wrote:Have you guys forgotten that Taito is now owned by Squeenix?

Blegh.

Let's hope we don't get a Darius Tactics.

undamned wrote:How about actually utilizing HD resolution for something other than just razzing up old graphics: 320x240 x 3 screens = 960x240. That means anyone with a 720p or better TV can play 3 screen Darius at full resolution. And if you are l33t enough to have a 1080p TV, you could double that size for a nice full width 1920x480.
-ud

I like this idea. Actually the three screens are some odd resolution, namely 288 x 224- which triples horizontally to 864. In 720p you'd get 208 pixel borders on the sides, but this still wouldn't be too bad if you're avoiding filtering/upscaling.

With 1080p you'd get 288 * 6 = 1724, with 98 pixel borders - just about perfect, in 1724 x 448 (or 1724 x 672?).

sunburstbasser · Post by **sunburstbasser** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:02 am

We're still getting new Darius games. And by new Darius games I mean ports of Darius to phones. Taito's site mentions both Darius Gate and Darius Ocean, but they both seem to be just cell phone games ported from the original. Screenshots make them look like Darius R.

Taito seems content to milk Cooking Mama and Space Invaders games until they've completely sucked them dry. They've been doing that with Space Invaders for years, of course. I suppose there is SOME hope, as both Chase H.Q. and Legend of Kage have gotten new installments.

I also agree that G.Rev would be best suited to a new Darius game. Konami doesn't really make incredible shooters like they used to, so they called up Treasure for Gradius V. Taito should do the same with G.Rev. Phone it in to the studio best qualified for it.

Squeenix should stuff an optional under-water dungeon in an RPG and fill it with Darius fish bosses. And a Silver Hawk dungeon boss.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:14 am

And by new Darius games I mean ports of Darius to phones.

Then you mean 'not' games.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:00 pm

sunburstbasser wrote:Squeenix should stuff an optional under-water dungeon in an RPG and fill it with Darius fish bosses. And a Silver Hawk dungeon boss.

Silver Hawk dungeon guest.

GaijinPunch wrote:Then you mean 'not' games

Conversions.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:43 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
And by new Darius games I mean ports of Darius to phones.
Then you mean 'not' games.

Seconded.

On an aside, the only cell phone release of a game series I've played that felt pretty much the same as the original was Gyakuten Saiban / Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney. And you can probably guess why that one didn't feel much different.

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:06 pm

I have yet to see a cell phone game where the controls don't suck.

Why oh why can't there be a Nintendo DS cell phone???