Question about Duo (hori) Spriggan...

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:22 pm

Ok, I LOVE Compile and I have played two of their Mech-shmups: MUSHA on the Genesis, and Robo Aleste on the Sega CD.

I definately liked Robo Aleste the best, but in any case, how does DUO Spriggan compare gameplay-wise to MUSHA and Robo Aleste?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:56 pm

I haven't put in a lot of time on those to say, but Spriggan (the vert) on the PC-Engine is fantastic. Spriggan Mark 2 (hori) is not bad, but not near as good as it's prequel.

discoalucardx · Post by **discoalucardx** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:59 am

My opinion might be a little off since I prefer MUSHA over Robo Aleste, but I'd stick Spriggan somewhere in the middle. There are a LOT more weapon combinations which is more typical of Compile shooters, and the graphics are gorgeous. The music is kinda eh though.

I dunno why I prefer MUSHA more, I think the pacing overall is just a bit better and I dig the style. But you definitely can't go wrong with Spriggan.

The sequel is also pretty good but you'd barely recognize it as a Compile games.

gunbird18 · Post by **gunbird18** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:39 am

I've played Musha, have yet to play Robo Aleste, and I have the vert Spriggan. I will mirror what most of the shmuppos will tell you about Spriggan...one of Compile's best! I love the fantasy theme and some of the propeller-driven ships are so similar to those in Mahou Daisakusen. I'm assuming a couple of the developers/Compile staff went to Raizing??? If this has been discussed and/or confirmed, I apologize for my ignorance.

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:54 am

Keep in mind that the sequel, Spriggan Mk2 wasn't made by Compile. Only the first one was.

Palmer Eldritch · Post by **Palmer Eldritch** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:03 am

I´d definitely say that Spriggan (1) is better than both games you mention.
One of Compile´s best, and one of the best shooters overall of the 8 and 16-bit era.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:22 pm

Specineff wrote:Keep in mind that the sequel, Spriggan Mk2 wasn't made by Compile. Only the first one was.

Really? I'm just asking because I saw footage of it on Compile's ZanacXZanac game.

Bar81 · Post by **Bar81** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:00 pm

Specineff wrote:Keep in mind that the sequel, Spriggan Mk2 wasn't made by Compile. Only the first one was.

That would explain the massive amounts of suckage the game dishes out.

matt · Post by **matt** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:40 am

Specineff wrote:Keep in mind that the sequel, Spriggan Mk2 wasn't made by Compile. Only the first one was.

Why do you say this? My copy has "c 1992 Compile" printed all over it.

I think it's a pretty darn good game, BTW.

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:02 am

AFAIK, it was posted in the old forum that Naxat released the game by themselves, since Compile refused to make a horzie, and has the credit because they created the original Spriggan, but that's it.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

(Besides, the game just feels so Un-Compile-ish)

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 5:56 pm

Specineff wrote:AFAIK, it was posted in the old forum that Naxat released the game by themselves, since Compile refused to make a horzie, and has the credit because they created the original Spriggan, but that's it.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

(Besides, the game just feels so Un-Compile-ish)

Interesting, I'm not trying to correct you Specineff, but I don't see what objections Compile would have against making a hori-they did Gulkave, after all.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 5:58 pm

BTW, are there ANY replay or superplay videos of the (hori) Spriggan out there? I'm not the first one who's asked; I'm sure there are plenty of others who'd love to see some footage of this shmup in action.

discoalucardx · Post by **discoalucardx** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:57 am

I don't have any pictures to link to, but I could've sworn that, on the back cover, it had Copyright Compile on it somewhere.

There's also the Spriggan Powered game, also published by Naxat Soft, a hori shooter for the SFC. This one definitely wasn't made by Compile, and it certainly isn't very good.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:18 am

Spriggan 2 seems to be like Sylphia... it's a rare, valuable game that has a lot of Compile-like elements, but nobody is really sure if the game is by Compile or not. Lots of people have opinions, but I don't know if anyone knows for sure.

Bar81 · Post by **Bar81** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:48 am

Cthulhu wrote:Spriggan 2 seems to be like Sylphia... it's a rare, valuable game that has a lot of Compile-like elements, but nobody is really sure if the game is by Compile or not. Lots of people have opinions, but I don't know if anyone knows for sure.

Dude, don't insult Sylphia. Spriggan Mark 2 is neither rare, nor valuable, and for that matter definitely not good. The only thing the two games have in common is the disputed Compile connection.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:51 am

Bar81 wrote: Dude, don't insult Sylphia. Spriggan Mark 2 is neither rare, nor valuable, and for that matter definitely not good. The only thing the two games have in common is the disputed Compile connection.

Umm, Spriggan Mark 2 is rare and it is valuable. It goes for 6000-7000 yen, easily. I was just talking about the uncertain Compile connection anyway.

I own both Sylphia and Spriggan Mark 2 and I like both of em.

Bar81 · Post by **Bar81** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:14 am

Cthulhu wrote:
Bar81 wrote: Dude, don't insult Sylphia. Spriggan Mark 2 is neither rare, nor valuable, and for that matter definitely not good. The only thing the two games have in common is the disputed Compile connection.
Umm, Spriggan Mark 2 is rare and it is valuable. It goes for 6000-7000 yen, easily. I was just talking about the uncertain Compile connection anyway.

I own both Sylphia and Spriggan Mark 2 and I like both of em.

$60-70 is not valuable and it's not rare. If you like it fine, but in terms of rarity and value it's not even in Sylphia's solar system.

matt · Post by **matt** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:44 am

Spriggan Mark 2 has Compile stamped on the case insert, the game disk, and the title screen. Compile used to have it listed on their web page before they went belly-up. As far as Horizontal games go, Compile programmed R-Type for the SMS, which turned out pretty darn good for a Master System cart.

Spriggan Mk2 is definitely a Compile game - there should be no question about it. You guys are thinking of Spriggan Powered on the SNES, which was published by Naxat but not programmed by Compile.

And I like Spriggan Mk2 better than Sylphia. So there.