7th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time! - Discussion thread

[The Coop]

Ah what are you kidding me? Radiant Silvergun is an amazing game. So many people talk about it, it has to be good! I mean, it's got ummm....3D graphics aaaaand....a super unique blade weapon?

it's appealing until you realize 99% of the people praising it have not actually played it past 5 minutes

Feels good to be in that other 1%

[jp]

Heh, I've played and 1CC'd Radiant Silvergun, and I feel it is easily the best shmup ever made.


Ikaruga, on the other hand, is garbage.
*1CC'd that one too, though I wasn't playing for score.*

[jpj]

i know you have to feed all the data into your bbc micro or whatever, but did ketsui get in...?

[Rob]

The 50 votes you cataloged were not enough out of 60 voters, so no. This means it's a bad game.

[Ed Oscuro]

OH SNAP SON.

[Rob]

Bio Metal made it to the top 5, though.

[jpj]

39 votes. is that good or bad?

[Ed Oscuro]

Without my assistance, which would've been a herd vote as I haven't played it for this year - so it deserves that ranking.

Defense Force? We don't need no stinkin' Defence Force.

[Rob]

is that good or bad?

Bio Metal is good.

[unsane]

Part of my shmups forum experience has been finding which very experienced posters most closely match my favorite shmups, and the trifecta are Twiddle (post2), Rob and Icarus. I figured combining their votes would give me a good list to feed on for years to come.

Here is this year's ROBICATWI Top 25:

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                                      Score    Votes
  1  Battle Garegga                   6.39     2
  2  Raiden DX                        6.27     3
  3  Raiden Fighters Jet              5.87     2
  4  Armed Police Batrider            5.01     2
  5  Ibara                            4.09     2
  6  Mars Matrix                      3.37
  7  Varth                            3.25     2
  8  Gradius V                        3.01     2
  9  Dragon Blaze                     3.00
  9  Strikers 1945 II                 3.00
 11  Forgotten Worlds                 2.62
 11  Gunbird 2                        2.62
 13  Every Extend Extra               2.36
 14  Raiden Fighters                  2.29
 15  Strikers 1999                    2.25
 16  Muchi Muchi Pork!                2.15
 17  Juno First                       1.87
 18  Border Down                      1.85
 19  Soukyugurentai                   1.74
 20  Shikigami no Shiro 3             1.69     2
 21  Batsugun (Special Ver.)          1.64
 22  Guwange                          1.64     2
 23  Pink Sweets                      1.54
 24  Einhänder                        1.50
 24  Thunder Force IV                 1.50

[Ed Oscuro]

I see Forgotten Worlds and Juno First.

Juno First has an intriguing core scoring mechanic, you'll get an idea whether you want to play that one quite quickly though (as good scoring means no shooting for a while, or at least very restricted shooting).

[Rob]

There's an interesting list. ;] I think the only thing that could make that better is if Xexex made it for token R-Type style (I know Icarus also voted for it). I unvote Strikers '99 for variety.

[unsane]

I think the only thing that could make that better is if Xexex made it for token R-Type style (I know Icarus also voted for it).

Heh Xexex is 26th with 1.47 in the ROBICATWI top 25, the only game voted for by more than one of you that didn't make it.

[professor ganson]

It's interesting to see the collation of expert lists. Probably not much use to beginners, though, since the lists are fairly idiosyncratic.

[incognoscente]

did ketsui get in...?

It did fine. You can stop voting for it now.

[Shumps4Free]

did ketsui get in...?

It did fine. You can stop voting for it now.

Thank god.

[jpj]

95% of all ketsui talk has been in one single thread in the chat section. i'm sorry this has annoyed you since you registered all of 4 days ago. of course i am joking, you're someone's joke account.

thanks incognescente

[professor ganson]

Three things I thought I'd never see on Rob's list: Gunbird, Strikers 1945, and Sengoku Ace. I know Rob finally came to like the latter, but I also know this much: in the past he was clear he didn't like the specials in Strikers I, and he didn't see much merit in Gunbird generally. So either he is making a joke in adding them or...

[Rob]

I threw some variety out of the window on the last edit since it's more about the combined lists than individual lists and I like boring old Psikyo a lot. Sengoku Ace is easily my favorite of the early games. Things I like about Gunbird: darker than GB2 with some memorable stages (castle/drawbridge), catchiest Psikyo soundtrack. I even like Sol Divide, but not quite for top 25.

[Shumps4Free]

95% of all ketsui talk has been in one single thread in the chat section. i'm sorry this has annoyed you since you registered all of 4 days ago. of course i am joking, you're someone's joke account.

thanks incognescente

Oh my, I've already made the Ketsui people angry. My beginnings on this forum are not looking good. Is there anything I can do to make it up to you? I can bake some delicious cookies for you!

Also this isn't someones joke account, I just personally think that if a game is good enough it'll place in the rankings without a thread dedicated to pumping it up. Just my own opinion!

[louisg]

I just personally think that if a game is good enough it'll place in the rankings without a thread dedicated to pumping it up. Just my own opinion!

I don't know who this dude is, but I agree with him.

[Ed Oscuro]

Sengoku Ace is easily my favorite of the early games.

Great to hear you agree with my sole Psikyo choice then! I was worried for a bit

[jpj]

Oh my, I've already made the Ketsui people angry

I just personally think that if a game is good enough it'll place in the rankings without a thread dedicated to pumping it up

i thought we were the ones making you angry..? i barely pay any attention to 90% of the threads on here. the key is not clicking on them

and ketsui has only ever twice made it onto the honourable mentions list (#26-50?), and never once onto the top 25. you may not know this because you are brand new to the forum. and i think the thread did make a difference, it didn't break any rules, and incognescente recognized and linked the 'campaign' in the opening post of this thread.

[Twiddle]

ketsui made it into the lists of voters who haven't even played it

congratulations sonic r

[Rob]

Great to hear you agree with my sole Psikyo choice then!

And now you have the board, right? Beat it so you can see Aine chowing down on WcDonald's. Spoiler.

[Shumps4Free]

Oh my, I've already made the Ketsui people angry

I just personally think that if a game is good enough it'll place in the rankings without a thread dedicated to pumping it up

i thought we were the ones making you angry..? i barely pay any attention to 90% of the threads on here. the key is not clicking on them

and ketsui has only ever twice made it onto the honourable mentions list (#26-50?), and never once onto the top 25. you may not know this because you are brand new to the forum. and i think the thread did make a difference, it didn't break any rules, and incognescente recognized and linked the 'campaign' in the opening post of this thread.

It never made me angry, and the "thank god" post that I made originally was a joke post, as well as the post where I said I made Ketsui people angry.

Maybe I got the wrong impression, but from the brief time I've been on these forums it seemed like things were pretty lighthearted around here, and jokes like those would just be glanced over at best. I didn't know people would take it seriously. I guess it's because my low post count or something, but I assure you that your thread didn't bother me at all. I still believe that a good game will make the top list without a thread drawing attention to it, but that's just me.

I'm aware that incognescente linked your thread, and that it isn't breaking any rules, and I never claimed otherwise. Like I said, I guess I just got the wrong impression.

My apologies, I hope we can move on.

[Twiddle]

jpj takes everything seriously

relax, don't take him seriously

[Ed Oscuro]

If a chance should ever present itself to plant a banana peel at the top of a flight of stairs when jpj was walking by, I wouldn't complain if it were to be taken advantage of, however.

[jpj]

I assure you that your thread didn't bother me at all.

cool sometimes things can be misinterpreted on the internet, as you aren't getting the persons tone of voice

you may not have seen it as it was a month ago, but the idea sprung up from this thread where ketsui was likened to a 'sacred cow', and people who own it are elitist and 'high brow'. so that's where the name and sig came from, as well as the top hat avatars. just a bit of fun. initially i only wanted to start a team for myself and two or three of the guys from ArcadeOtaku, and it just kinda snow-balled from there. i was saying to chi_ryu that it was a shame that thread got locked, so i started another one from the opposite perspective (that ketsui is a solid game, and perhaps under represented), thinking that at the very least we could have another flame-fest ( ). there's always lots of threads springing up about "game X sucks" etc, but i'd rather post topics about games i really like, and argue from the positive perspectives

blame sonic r

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If a chance should ever present itself to plant a banana peel at the top of a flight of stairs when jpj was walking by, I wouldn't complain if it were to be taken advantage of, however.

[Chi_Ryu]

I can bake some delicious cookies for you!

You're on.

I still laugh at some people from the original thread judging it from Ketsui Death Label (or, worse still, from hearsay). And I do seriously rate Ketsui in my top 5 shooters.