Ketsui the most overrated game this decade…

[kernow]

If I read the word ketsui one more time I might actually explode

terrible thread.

[PsikyoPshumpPshooterP]

Ketsui Pwns ALL

i have bought the pcb twice, regrettly selling the first one i had...and it took me a year and a half later till i re-bought it..Very few shmups have that type of game value that Ketsui has..

[jonny5]

all i have to say is if somebody doesnt like ketsui, they have a different opinion than me

[8 1/2]

Admit it. You guys only like this game because helicopters are cool.

For example:



and

[captpain]

Ketsui Ketsui Ketsui Ketsui. Game Ketsui good Play it, Best game. Ketsui a game for the arcade, play it. Ketsui Rated? Ketsui Ketsui Ketsui

[Davey]

Even after the Earth has been burnt away by the expanding sun, billions of years after the heat death of the universe, those Ketsui PCBs will still be there, floating in the endless void of space for all eternity. Pure perfection in physical form, just waiting for sentinent beings from an alternate dimension to discover them, and be raptured into pure gaming bliss! .. UHNN!

Hmmm....

[Zweihander]

If the game was region-free, I'd import it and play it on a friend's 360. Too bad 5bp decided to be douches like that.

Do you stilll
1) Not understand how the games industry works?
2) Spout jealous rants when you don't get your way?

This is another one of those things where I'm supposed to pretend that I care, isn't it? :'(

[nZero]

If the game was region-free, I'd import it and play it on a friend's 360. Too bad 5bp decided to be douches like that.

Do you stilll
1) Not understand how the games industry works?
2) Spout jealous rants when you don't get your way?

This is another one of those things where I'm supposed to pretend that I care, isn't it? :'(

Seems to me if you actually didn't care, you wouldn't be posting. Oh right, unless you were trolling.

[GaijinPunch]

1) Not understand how the games industry works?
2) Spout jealous rants when you don't get your way?

This is another one of those things where I'm supposed to pretend that I care, isn't it? :'(

They were actually honest questions. Both points have been flogged like a dolphin.

[Zweihander]

1) Not understand how the games industry works?
2) Spout jealous rants when you don't get your way?

This is another one of those things where I'm supposed to pretend that I care, isn't it? :'(

They were actually honest questions. Both points have been flogged like a dolphin.[/quote]By yours truly. <3

[Elixir]

No one likes me - how can I be held in any kind of acclaim?

I think people would like you more if you didn't come off as a maniac depressive.

This thread is fantastic. We have one person who hasn't played the game much, and calling it overrated. On the other hand, we have someone who has equally not played it as much, but won't judge it after they've played it to death. Then we have a Ketsui owner claiming it's the holy grail of gaming, but hey that's not acting like a PCB elitist or anything. Then we have someone judging Ketsui by Ketsui DS, which is a different game entirely.

All of these opinions are wrong.

[Zweihander]

wrong

opinions

There is, factually, no such thing.

[Elixir]

So you think you can judge a game, having played a 4:3 variation on a handheld with poor controls which doesn't even include stages.

Yeah that's not wrong at all, my bad. You might as well judge the rest of the Cave by their cellphone games while you're at it.

[Zweihander]

So you think you can judge a game, having played a 4:3 variation on a handheld with poor controls which doesn't even include stages.

Yeah that's not wrong at all, my bad. You might as well judge the rest of the Cave by their cellphone games while you're at it.

A D-pad I'm comfortable with = poor controls, and stage 5 = not a stage? Gotcha. Guess I shouldn't judge Mushihime-sama by the PS2 port, either, since it's equally shitty. All I remember is a few months ago, everyone was jacking off hardcore to Death Label's bullet porn. Game of the week, I suppose.

[Elixir]

Ketsui DS is missing the key aspect of the scoring system. It's basically like Blue Wish Resurrection, where you only need to get close to enemies for them to drop 5's. In Ketsui itself, obtaining 5's requires you to "group" enemies, by picking off one with your shot, which then brings up a counter that rapidly falls from 50 to 0. If you were close enough to the small enemy when you picked it off, you'll get 5's within that time frame. Killing stuff barely keeps the timer up, so you have to repeat the process often.

And that's basically Ketsui's scoring system for you, not going into bosses or any of that shit. Ketsui DS doesn't have this, nor does it have any stages. A few random popcorn enemies that don't even incorporate this isn't a good example to compare with.

Difference is, Mushihimesama PS2 is based on Mushihimesama. It isn't a great port, but it's still comparable. Ketsui DS is based on Ketsui's bosses, but it has a different scoring system and different feel. So like I said, you might as well compare the cellphone games they've made to the real ones.

[Acid King]

You're creating a culture of 'haves' and 'have nots'

Shmups forum as class warfare. Awesome.

[GaijinPunch]

By yours truly. <3

Way to piggy back on my pun.

[Chi_Ryu]

[Again, how the fuck am I supposed to play something not readily available to me?

It's very simple. Buy the PCB, play it, sell on the PCB - the true cost of a game is the difference between the price you pay for it, and the price you sell it for (less shipping costs, natch). All told, it will probably cost you USD$50 tops (and in fact it cost me -USD$180 to play Ketsui - one of the few PCBs that I've made money from). However, you would need to have several hundred dollars you can afford to have tied up for a month or two.

And I'm with the "Ketsui is great" club - I bought it a couple of years ago as my housemate at the time was hyping it up, and I was not disappointed. I sold the PCB about 6 months ago 'cause I needed the cash and it is currently overpriced (IMO), but it is one I quite regret selling (along with Espgaluda II).

Overrated? Possibly - I won't be selling a kidney to re-buy the game. A solid shooter? Definitely.

[Twiddle]

gene when you gonna cosplay again

[szycag]

Again, how the fuck am I supposed to play something not readily available to me?

It's very simple. Buy the PCB, play it, sell on the PCB - the true cost of a game is the difference between the price you pay for it, and the price you sell it for (less shipping costs, natch).

You can also look for some shmupmeets close to your area, that's how I was able to play it. I've had the pleasure of playing Ketsui, Mushi Futari, ESP Galuda 2, Death Smiles, Muchi Muchi Pork, and several others, and I've never had to leave the midwest. In my experience shmups fans are pretty easygoing and not the overdramatic otaku you draw them up as.

Also this is of course assuming that you can be a reasonable guy in person and people would let you in their house... i.e. this whole annoying "like I care" schtick is just a forum trolling put-on.

[Ravid]

<p^<¬p>>

[charlie chong]

IM SO UPSET YOU DON'T LIKE KETSUI

BOO HOOO

EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO USE MY PCB AS A PLATE TO EAT CAVIAR OFF

[Zweihander]

gene when you gonna cosplay again

Going to Acen next month as the Engineer from Team Fortress 2, and Sleeping Pill Addict Heath Ledger.

Ketsui DS doesn't have this, nor does it have any stages.

So stage 5 isn't a stage?

[Again, how the fuck am I supposed to play something not readily available to me?

It's very simple. Buy the PCB, play it, sell on the PCB - the true cost of a game is the difference between the price you pay for it, and the price you sell it for (less shipping costs, natch). All told, it will probably cost you USD$50 tops (and in fact it cost me -USD$180 to play Ketsui - one of the few PCBs that I've made money from). However, you would need to have several hundred dollars you can afford to have tied up for a month or two.

$180? No thanks, I'd rather have Panzer Dragoon Saga or Hyperduel for that much.

[Chi_Ryu]

$180? No thanks, I'd rather have Panzer Dragoon Saga or Hyperduel for that much.

That's MINUS $180 (as in after selling it, I had $180 more than I had before). So I could have them, too - and have played Ketsui (oh wait, I have!)

[jpj]

he meant a profit of $180. ie he *made* 180 dollars between buying and selling

edit: chi got there first (natch!)

[Skykid]

As previously mentioned, Ikaruga is most overrated shmup this decade. Ketsui, is not.

That should have ended the thread four pages back.

[Zweihander]

he meant a profit of $180. ie he *made* 180 dollars between buying and selling

edit: chi got there first (natch!)

Oh. Missed the "-".

Meh. Still, that's an initial $800 I don't have. Dunno if anyone here has noticed, this isn't exactly the economy to be buying needless crap at the moment.

Now, maybe if 5bp decides to make the 360 port region-free (since it's not mandatory and IS up to the publishers), then I will buy that. $200 is the most money I will put down on a single shmup, or a single game within any genre for that matter. (I'm still iffy about plopping $175 on Metal Wolf Chaos)

Sorry I can't be as high-brow as the rest of you.

[Twiddle]

I demand more zweihander cosplay

[szycag]

high-brow

[Jockel]

I demand more zweihander cosplay