The impressions of Star Soldier! Hands-on w/BeeCard & S

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The impressions of Star Soldier! Hands-on w/BeeCard & S

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Hands-on doesn't mean any pictures...quite yet, but bear with me on that.

Star Soldier is essentially an improved (mostly) version of Star Force and further develops the bonus concepts of that game. My interest in this game was spurred by the appearance that Star Prince on Retro Game Challenge for DS is a copy of it; I discovered that I still like Star Prince a great deal and the later games are much better.

I don't have the FC version, so I had to gain impressions through emulation. It seems very hard to correct mistakes (like going under terrain) in this version, and even with autofire I often leave the bonus Zs hidden.

The first version I played was the MSX BeeCard version. This is the picture from the auction, and this is almost identical to the setup I'm using, with the difference that whoever owned that computer was a newb and took off the cool gold "F1-XDJ" sticker." Identical machine though. A bigger / better picture of the Star Soldier BeeCard package is here; it's almost exactly the size of a slim DVD case, just a little shorter. The outer case is made of a very fragile floppy plastic; it's amazing that any of these can survive (especially as in that picture shown).

Since it's marked for MSX...not MSX2+, and not even MSX2, I had a bit of a rude surprise when I took out Space Manbow and put this game in. The background scrolling is very, very choppy, and the faces don't animate. Of course, I was willing to accept it since this was the first version I played.

This felt more than made up for by the MSX2+ F1-XDJ's built in autofire slider, which coupled with the speed of the bullets and number of bullets onscreen kept up a high rate of fire for use with the five-direction shot. On my second play I was up to 470K, and despite the background waving back and forth like a flag wrapped around a drunk, it felt kinda playable.

Next, I tried out the Super Famicom version in the Caravan Shooting Collection. Due to the Tecmo connection I feared it could suck, given my recent experience emulating Ninja Gaiden Trilogy with its weird sound choices and missing parallax (not as bad as people say, but definitely not perfect). The included version of Star Soldier seems better, actually, than the FC version; there's multiple levels of stars going by all the time, and the sound seems spot-on. It's clumsy to play with a standard SNES controller and no autofire, but with a better one this could be fun.

The Caravan Shooting Collection isn't perfect. First off, the remade version of Star Soldier is the normal one; that's fine, except there's no two- or five-minute modes that I can see. I noticed a spot in Hector '87 (Starship Hector) where a large enemy caused slightly smaller enemy sprites to nearly disappear behind it, which isn't good.

What I learned:

-If it says MSX, it means "1984 graphics;"
-"Rapid Fire" competitions are no fun, but I can tap those buttons 1/3 as fast as the emulator (FCE Ultra emulator: 300 max, me, 105, twice), and that shooting watch sure looks cool;
-Flying under the fucking scenery when you're firing at the Zs is failure, this has got to be on the list of top ten worst design choices ever.

There are at least three "retro" versions of Star Soldier:

Star Soldier (NES / FC) "original"
Caravan Shooting Collection (SFC) 1995
Star Soldier (MSX BeeCard) 1987

I leave you with some ancient wisdom:
So while Star Parodier just as good as any of the other games, like a drunken house guest that never leaves, isn't nearly as funny as it thinks it is.

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Ed Oscuro wrote:The Caravan Shooting Collection isn't perfect. First off, the remade version of Star Soldier is the normal one; that's fine, except there's no two- or five-minute modes that I can see.
Well, that's technically accurate, the NES/FC original doesn't have caravan modes either. They were only available in a special version of the cart, which I assume was used in Hudson's competitions. Would've been nice to include them in the Shooting Collection, sure.
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Ed Oscuro wrote: A bigger / better picture of the Star Soldier BeeCard package is here; it's almost exactly the size of a slim DVD case, just a little shorter. The outer case is made of a very fragile floppy plastic; it's amazing that any of these can survive (especially as in that picture shown).
I actually own that in like new condition... cost me quite a few bucks but it's a great collector's piece for people into MSX since it IS pretty rare.

What did you pay for it if I may ask?
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Ghegs wrote:Well, that's technically accurate, the NES/FC original doesn't have caravan modes either.
This is supposed to be the caravan game, as evident in the game select screen ("2nd tournament official game soft"), and the title of the package itself.
Super Laydock wrote:I actually own that in like new condition... cost me quite a few bucks but it's a great collector's piece for people into MSX since it IS pretty rare.

What did you pay for it if I may ask?
$90 and a general feeling of used. I was thinking about scanning the manual, but if you have a better one, maybe you'd better give it a shot ;)
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Ed Oscuro wrote: $90 and a general feeling of used. I was thinking about scanning the manual, but if you have a better one, maybe you'd better give it a shot
;)
Too bad about the "used feeling", but still a decent price I think.
As for scanning the manual... go ahead, I am to lazy to get it to my parents' scanner, and since mine is broken that's the only option I'd have.
Could take pics with the camera if needed though...
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Star Prince got me into playing the original too, but with the US NES cart. I noticed the version of Star Force in the SNES caravan collection is the JP FC version. What is your opinion of the US NES one with the different music and graphics?

I'm thinking of getting one of the TG-16 Star Soldiers. Which one of these has the best caravan mode? What is the caravan like for Star Parodier? I couldn't find a YouTube video of Star Parodier's caravan mode. It looks like the JP Super Star Soldier doesn't have caravan. It has "calavan" instead. :)
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BrianC wrote:I'm thinking of getting one of the TG-16 Star Soldiers. Which one of these has the best caravan mode? What is the caravan like for Star Parodier? I couldn't find a YouTube video of Star Parodier's caravan mode.
I'd say the best caravan mode is in Soldier Blade, easily. It just feels most fun and fast-paced, and I think it has the most variety. The other games' caravan stages are pretty bare-bones.

The caravan mode is Star Parodier is okay, I guess. I could make you a demo video if you're curious, but if you've seen one caravan mode in a Soldier game, you've pretty much seen them all. :)
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Super Laydock wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote: $90 and a general feeling of used. I was thinking about scanning the manual, but if you have a better one, maybe you'd better give it a shot
;)
Too bad about the "used feeling", but still a decent price I think.
As for scanning the manual... go ahead, I am to lazy to get it to my parents' scanner, and since mine is broken that's the only option I'd have.
Could take pics with the camera if needed though...
I say that the manual should be scanned because apparently the snake tiles are called GURADISU
BrianC wrote:Star Prince got me into playing the original too, but with the US NES cart. I noticed the version of Star Force in the SNES caravan collection is the JP FC version. What is your opinion of the US NES one with the different music and graphics?
I dunno, I'll have to look.

According to StrategyWiki, there's some obnoxious method of unlocking a harder version of Star Soldier (in the FC version) that requires holding a bunch of buttons and blowing into the P2 microphone. Apparently more shots are homing and the large enemy boss looks crazy now.
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Ed Oscuro wrote: There are at least three "retro" versions of Star Soldier:

Star Soldier (NES / FC) "original"
Caravan Shooting Collection (SFC) 1995
Star Soldier (MSX BeeCard) 1987
and the GBA "Famicom Mini" release, which saves high scores, I believe.

oh, and there is the Hudson Shooting Collection for GBA also, which is essentially the SFC Caravan Shooting Collection, afaik.
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The Beecards are nice. I have 2 of them: Star Soldiers and Star Force. Nothing spectacular but a great showpiece. I wish mine was complete like yours.

I posted this stuff at PCFX forums a few years ago with pics.
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=1809.0
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