Reflex(by SiterSkain) true story

bbeacon103 · Post by **bbeacon103** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:12 am

This game isn't tell the story so much on purpose.
However, the story is much deeper than I thought.

I'm not an good English writer, so correct me if I take an mistake XD

<stage1>
In the far future, militarism is extremely growing in the world government.
You are a member of "Valkyness",the resistance against the world government.
Valkyness was no more than the annoying resistance for the world government. But, the situation changed when Dr.Denys became the member of Valkyness.

Dr.denys discovered a certain special "core", and developed the "Shield Shot System"(S.S.S.) by using the core...yes, THAT shield you use.

And your red aircraft "Phoenix Mk.2" was born. Inside Phoenix is the certain core and that enables Phoenix to use S.S.S.
(Phoenix Mk.1 is an blue aircraft. they were in stage6)

This S.S.S. was the last hope for Valkyness to beat the world government.
And The Operation Reflex was commenced.

However, your mothership was destroyed by Virgo(stage1 boss).
You managed to escape from the sinking mothership.
You had no choice but go to your base in the moon...
...to bring the S.S.S. to there.

<Stage2>
You must go to the moon via the enemy base.

<Stage3>
You face a huge fleet called "the Meteor Fleet". you commit a surprise attack against the Meteor Fleet. However,the Meteor Fleet wasn't assaulting Valkyness,but much more dangerous enemy.

<Stage4>
You face the world goverment's up-to-date battleship "Cancer". The severe battle against Cancer lasted until you arrive at the moon.
Suddenly, Cancer and Valkyness's base on the moon were destroyed by an unknown battleship.

...and you noticed.
An unknown fleet is assaulting the Earth.
Maybe that battleship is one of them?

...24 hours later, you decided to fight them back to save the Earth.

The true tragedy has begun.

<continue...>

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:36 am

What did I just read?

petieken · Post by **petieken** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:47 am

Fenrir wrote:What did I just read?

I was wondering the same thing...

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:00 pm

Is that canonical lore or fan fiction?

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:45 pm

shmups have stories?

robthebanks · Post by **robthebanks** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:30 pm

whats real

originalz · Post by **originalz** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:43 am

Wait, so this is for that doujin game Reflex, right?

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:09 am

oh god how did this get here, i am not good with computer

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:58 am

Give the thread starter a break. What he wrote is easy enough to understand and it's not like wanting to know the story behind a popular game is unheard of. Imagine if this was a Tohou game (moooOOOOHHH!!!)

BIL · Post by **BIL** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:56 am

Makes perfect sense to me, although I guess having played the game helps. Interesting to know more about that Cancer-killing cheap shot.

LtC · Post by **LtC** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:03 am

I was always interested in the story behind Siter Skain games, propably the only shmup which has a story that interests me.

I'd love to know what's going on after stage 7 ends and during stage 8.

Observer · Post by **Observer** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:24 pm

LtC wrote:I was always interested in the story behind Siter Skain games, propably the only shmup which has a story that interests me.

I'd love to know what's going on after stage 7 ends and during stage 8.

Same here.

Ah, finally I know why you start with your cruiser being shot down by a massive missile. Took me a while to realise Virgo releases a similar missile during the boss fight if you take too long to take it out.

Also nice to see "Operation RefleX" takes place across the skies of Australia before going to space. (seen in the opening video)

Mischief Maker · Post by **Mischief Maker** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:47 am

This also explains why you're flying alongside the level 1 boss towards the end of the game.

Now we need to figure out why getting the bejeezus blasted out of you by the mega-kamui... makes you stronger.

Drascin · Post by **Drascin** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:55 pm

I've always been extremely curious as to what the story from the Siter Skain games was. I mean, it actually looks pretty interesting. And I'd really love to know what in the name of Asmodeus is happening in the last stages, and why you apparently come back from some kind of prison/retirement to fight two Kamui fighters and the fuckhuge mechs.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:17 pm

I wish it was like the story in Trizeal, a Last Starfighter type of deal.

(seriously, that IS the plot for Trizeal)

bbeacon103 · Post by **bbeacon103** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:06 pm

Hello!
here is the next story.
from here on, the story gets deeper, so it's very tough to translate it =(
Very fun, though.

<stage5>
You warp back to the Earth.
From now on, your enemy is no longer the world government. You must fight as a member of mankind.
Your new enemy is alien called "Raiwat".
...well, the word "alien" is inaccurate,however. They were once humans too.

Far and far centuries ago(in ALLTYNEX age), human go out from the earth to space. Some human arrived a planet which is far away from the Earth.
They settled the planet, and they evolved. their appearance is like wolfmen. And later they are called Raiwat.

The reason why they assault the earth is, actually, not sure among Raiwats themselves.
Only a few Raiwat military officer in high places know the true reason.
It's something to do with "ZODIAC"...

The meteor fleets was made to fight against these Raiwats.

Boss...City-Buster "Enlopy"
Raiwat's elite fleet. Now they are assaulting the Earth.

<stage6>
You came back to the Earth.
There isn't a border between the resistance and the world government anymore.
Mankind fights the terrible intruder.
In this stage, you see the battleship which destroyed Cancer.
That is...more acculately, they are, the very origin of this war.

That battleship is called ZODIAC, and there are 12 ZODIACs made by Raiwats.
ZODIAC is actually a robot. All ZODIACs share same appearance and weapons.
They have a different "ZODIAC Core" and that enables them to have different minds, feelings, and identities.
And they have yellow optical wings.

Long time ago, suddenly, Raiwat completely lost ZODIACs' control and was destroyed their cities by ZODIACs.
However, Raiwat managed to seal ZODIACs.

But this time, Raiwat military generals declare the unseal of ZODIACs to eliminate mankind.
For Raiwat, (I don't know exactly why yet) they regarded mankind as a betrayer ,so they are pleased to avenge them.
However, are we need to unseal ZODIACs for that?
ZODIACs which we managed to seal and we can't control!

Boss...Inspector-Defender "Scutum"
The battle ship to inspect the war among mankind and raiwat,and ZODIACs.

Gespenst · Post by **Gespenst** » Tue May 05, 2009 10:58 am

And the stage 7? How the Phoenix got the yellow optical wings (and infinite SSS and of course, F***ing sudden death)by get abused by Zodiac?
And the intermission after stage 7, especially. Is that's the one you've translated (stage 5 to 6)?

LtC · Post by **LtC** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:45 pm

Damnit you guys scared the OP away with your comments ):

Now we will never know

Gespenst · Post by **Gespenst** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:10 am

Oh yeah, this reminds me with this question:
What's the connection between Alltynex, Kamui, The Temple (the final battle location & 'home' for Kamui) with Zodiac and Phoenix?

bbeacon103 · Post by **bbeacon103** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:39 pm

Long time no see, huh?

Sorry to keep you waiting SOOO long(6 months!?).

Stage7:
I know you are wondering why I called the battleships "ZODIACs", not "Zodiacs"
Long time ago, Raiwat made 12 ZODIACs. They are named PISCES, VIRGO,TAURUS,SCORPIO,SAGITTARIUS...etc.

When Dr.Denys noticed the existence of ZODIACs, and the potential to invade mankind, he studied about ZODIAC core, and made imitated Zodiacs from the core to push back original ZODIACs.
And, the imitated Zodiacs are called Pisces,Virgo,Taurus,....etc.
It means, the bosses in Stage1 to 4 are the imitated Zodiacs made by Dr.Denys orginally to beat the invading ZODIACs.

Phoenix Mk.2(you!) and Virgo(boss in stage1) chased one of ZODIACs(VIRGO)
And finally, you drove him into a ruin.
This ruin is former alltynex core.
You fight VIRGO there. However, you can't compare with VIRGO's ultimate power.
And finally, Phoenix Mk.2 destroyed, and the pilot died...
...and, the miracle happened.

I explained that "Phoenix Mk.2 has a certain core which Dr.Denys discovered"
Yes, that was the 13th ZODIAC core.
The moment Phoenix Mk.2 destroyed, the 13th core inside the aircraft "woke up", and aquired yellow optical wings same as other ZODIACs.
From now on, you are the 13th ZODIAC "Ophiuchus".

ZODIAC Ophiuchus core was made by Raiwat when 12 ZODIACs was once destroying Raiwat's homeland,in order to eliminate the 12 ZODIACs.

Ophiuchus immediately destroyed VIRGO, and began hunting the remaining ZODIACs.

Stage8 <the Judgement>
Humanity was caught up in the outrageous battle between Ophiuchus and other ZODIACs,and humans lost their civilizations,and were almost extincted. In the catastrophe, humans managed to build a fortress in orbit.
This fortress has a "automated avenging system" against the destroyers. To avenge Ophiuchus and other ZODIACs which destroyed humanity, the fortress have ultimate weapons as the avenging system.
The weapons are called kamuis.

the 11th ZODIACs has fallen, and now, the only survived ZODIAC is LIBRA.
Ophiuchus is now slaughtering LIBRA
Autmated avenging system has activated. Now, 2 kamui ships are going to eliminate them.

Ophiuchus, LIBRA, Kamui...final battle among four ultimate weapons has begun.

Gespenst · Post by **Gespenst** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:32 am

Humanity was caught up in the outrageous battle between Ophiuchus and other ZODIACs,and humans lost their civilizations,and were almost extincted. In the catastrophe, humans managed to build a fortress in orbit.
This fortress has a "automated avenging system" against the destroyers. To avenge Ophiuchus and other ZODIACs which destroyed humanity, the fortress have ultimate weapons as the avenging system.
The weapons are called kamuis.

That's what happened in pre-final stage cutscene, eh?
AFAIK, that place is named 'the Temple' (Kamui stage 1?)
edit 2: then, WTF happened to the blue Kamui? That's the prototype, right? Then it should already exists.

bbeacon103 · Post by **bbeacon103** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:35 pm

Gespenst wrote:
That's what happened in pre-final stage cutscene, eh?
AFAIK, that place is named 'the Temple' (Kamui stage 1?)
edit 2: then, WTF happened to the blue Kamui? That's the prototype, right? Then it should already exists.

Yes. In the cutscene before stage7, 2 narrators(a female crew on Virgo who managed to evacuate, and a commander of one of Raiwat fleets) tells a story after the fall of ZODIAC VIRGO.
Japanese sentences in the cutscene are really tough to translate...I should have studied English much more XD

Ah, sorry. What I called "fortress" is the temple. The temple is the same place as stage1 in Kamui
At the point when the temple was built, there seems to be 8 kamui ships. The blue one in Kamui is No.2, and The ones in Reflex are No.7,8.
I don't know why No.7 and 8 launched instead of No.2
Since this game doesn't tell the story much on purpose, even we japanese fan don't know exactly the truth.

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