Just completed Radiant Silvergun, is that it????/

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Just completed Radiant Silvergun, is that it????/

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I'm I missing sometinhg with this game, I have just completed the game since having it about a month and, is that it, its a touch over hyped isn't it! Ikaruga has replay value galore, but this, er no.
Yes it is a technical marvel for the Saturn, but I really don't see that point of keeping this game anymore.
Oh, can anyone tell me what the ending was about since I don't understand what they were saying, anime looked nice though!
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I've long found Radiant Silvergun to be a bit sluggish and unfulfilling as far as shooters go. I can easily understand why it gets so much praise as visually and musically it's amazing. It's the game play that I find lacking. Ikaruga is a much more intense shooter and I find myself coming back to it way more often than Silvergun. I guess it's a personal preference.
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I have put in around 40hrs on Ikaruga and still can't chain past 83 in chap 1 on easy! But I really can't see why I should hold onto this for, the only reason would be high scores, but that would included memorising everything, i can't do that on ikaruga, but i want to master (to a degree) that game. But you're right, something is lacking about RS gameplay.
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Are you saying you like to learn chains in ikaruga but not in RSG and it is worse because of that?

Both games get their replay value from strict enemy chaining, and both games take quite a bit of time to "master".
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I just played Ikaruga right after playing RSG, and well, RSG felt more fun.
Also, the ending... well... this should be useful: http://www.emuxhaven.net/~silver/index.htm
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Re: Just completed Radiant Silvergun, is that it????/

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SpiffierRabbit wrote:Ikaruga has replay value galore, but this, er no.
are you fucking retarded
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If "breaking your chain or dying, forcing you to reset" means Ikaruga has great replay value, in that case Ikaruga has great replay value.

It's different in other games, even in DOJ. It isn't as anal about it as what Ikaruga is. You need to understand that the game stops being about bullet hell, dodging, and blowing ships up; rather it's about being the right colour, at the right place, at the right time, shooting the right thing. And you're happy with this, but you're complaining that Radiant Silvergun is lackluster?

See the problem here?
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orange wrote:
SpiffierRabbit wrote:Ikaruga has replay value galore, but this, er no.
are you fucking retarded
no, he isn't
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B-Wings is a shooting game, therefore it is brilliant.

axiomatic shooting grading theories ftw (like libertarianism u c)

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sup ed soucro
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What else where you expecting? A free hand job?
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umm, DOGS...! duhh

You got 100% on all bosses and and kept your chain going long enough to power the hell out of all your weapons?

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I have leveled up my weapons to lv33 with in 10hrs play on saturn mode, seemed to get 100% on the later bosses (not all) without knowing but just trying to destroy them, i do prefer the chaining system on Ikaruga rather than RSG. RSG is just a waiting game til an emeny of the same colour of your chain comes along.


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SpiffierRabbit wrote:I have leveled up my weapons to lv33 with in 10hrs play on saturn mode, seemed to get 100% on the later bosses (not all) without knowing but just trying to destroy them, i do prefer the chaining system on Ikaruga rather than RSG. RSG is just a waiting game til an emeny of the same colour of your chain comes along.


Think I've pissed people off, but ,nly my opinion!
bah don't worry about it, I disagree with you but I'm not pissed lol.

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SpiffierRabbit wrote:I have leveled up my weapons to lv33 with in 10hrs play on saturn mode, seemed to get 100% on the later bosses (not all) without knowing but just trying to destroy them, i do prefer the chaining system on Ikaruga rather than RSG. RSG is just a waiting game til an emeny of the same colour of your chain comes along.


Think I've pissed people off, but ,nly my opinion!

play arcade mode man
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Macaw wrote:
SpiffierRabbit wrote:I have leveled up my weapons to lv33 with in 10hrs play on saturn mode, seemed to get 100% on the later bosses (not all) without knowing but just trying to destroy them, i do prefer the chaining system on Ikaruga rather than RSG. RSG is just a waiting game til an emeny of the same colour of your chain comes along.


Think I've pissed people off, but ,nly my opinion!

play arcade mode man
Completely correct. I hope you dont play Radiant with level 33 weapons at the beginning...
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Re: Just completed Radiant Silvergun, is that it????/

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Twiddle wrote:
orange wrote:
SpiffierRabbit wrote:Ikaruga has replay value galore, but this, er no.
are you fucking retarded
no, he isn't
listen man rsg is overrated but uh
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Macaw wrote:play arcade mode man
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Arcade mode it is!

It's hard being a retard, but thanks for the help guy!
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SpiffierRabbit wrote:Arcade mode it is!

It's hard being a retard, but thanks for the help guy!
Arcade or Saturn w/o saves, whatever.
SpiffierRabbit wrote: RSG is just a waiting game til an emeny of the same colour of your chain comes along.
Well, that is kind of correct. From this point of view, Ikaruga is more intense since you may chain alternating colors.
However, if you just wait and do not try to be at the right place at the right time, I doubt your ability to 1CC radiant.
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I never get over how touchy some people are when it comes to Silvergun. As shocking as it is, some people just don't like the game. I hang onto mine only because it can be a bit difficult to get ahold of. In truth, I rarely play it anymore.
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My problem with Ikaruga and RSG is that you can't play NOT for score.
It kicks in automatically for me, so i can't play for survival.
Next problem: playing Ikaruga and RSG for score is a major pain in the ass and no fun at all (imo).
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My problem with X and Y is that you can't play NOT for score.
It kicks in automatically for me, so i can't play for survival.
Next problem: playing X and Y for score is a major pain in the ass and no fun at all (imo).
That sounds like the perfect description for DDP and DOJ. Just fill in the gaps, it fits magically.
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Plasmo wrote:
My problem with X and Y is that you can't play NOT for score.
It kicks in automatically for me, so i can't play for survival.
Next problem: playing X and Y for score is a major pain in the ass and no fun at all (imo).
That sounds like the perfect description for DDP and DOJ. Just fill in the gaps, it fits magically.
The dramatic leap from Donpachi to DDP and likewise with RSG to Ikaruga...quite something isn't it? ^_~

Will Cave and Treasure ever get together and create a new shmup masterpiece? That'd be the stuff that legends are made of. ^_~

And playing the Sega ST-V version of RSG is the leaner and meaner version to play/own with no extra frills included. Plus with the instant boot-up convienence of running on arcade hardware is another plus -- no need to wait for the slow-ass Saturn CD-Rom drive to get up to speed.

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Plasmo wrote:
My problem with X and Y is that you can't play NOT for score.
It kicks in automatically for me, so i can't play for survival.
Next problem: playing X and Y for score is a major pain in the ass and no fun at all (imo).
That sounds like the perfect description for DDP and DOJ. Just fill in the gaps, it fits magically.
I don't get your point. You can easily play DDP for survival, there is absolutely no need to chain anything. RSG on the other hand makes you chain to power up your weapons, so survival and scoring are completely linked. They are totally different, so "magically" it dosen't fit.
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null1024 wrote:I just played Ikaruga right after playing RSG, and well, RSG felt more fun.
Agreed.
It is so much more fun it's not even funny! :?
Jockel wrote:My problem with Ikaruga and RSG is that you can't play NOT for score.
Agreed partially on RSG.
If you do NOT play for score it becomes virtually impossible to proceed in later stages of the game, that is, you have to master chaining or you won't even come close to getting the dreamed RSG 1cc.

Chaining in RSG is fun.
Chaining in Ikaruga is a chore.
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I have invested lots of hours (100+ in Iky, 50+ in RSG) in each, and they're pretty similar. I feel Ikaruga is a better and yet easier game (mainly because it's shorter), but RSG is still pretty amazing/fun to play up to Xiga. I don't get the "bashing" this one gets these days. It's most probably one of the games I have that has seen less play in the last months, but it's still one I enjoy every time I give it a spin.
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Matsunaga wrote:
Plasmo wrote:
My problem with X and Y is that you can't play NOT for score.
It kicks in automatically for me, so i can't play for survival.
Next problem: playing X and Y for score is a major pain in the ass and no fun at all (imo).
That sounds like the perfect description for DDP and DOJ. Just fill in the gaps, it fits magically.
I don't get your point. You can easily play DDP for survival, there is absolutely no need to chain anything. RSG on the other hand makes you chain to power up your weapons, so survival and scoring are completely linked. They are totally different, so "magically" it dosen't fit.
Yeah, this, I don't see the connection.
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play arcade mode, and try to get a 1CC with 10+ mill. that should keep you busy :wink:
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