Do I need a capture card to use this?

CFO · Post by **CFO** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:34 pm

Yo shmups!

I'm waiting to receive one of these:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3356/inputst7.jpg

I'm curious if I will need a capture card. As it stands, I have a s-video input on my video card and audio line in on my motherboard. Would that work?

Also, does anyone know of the best capture software?

Fudoh · Post by **Fudoh** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:12 pm

'm curious if I will need a capture card. As it stands, I have a s-video input on my video card and audio line in on my motherboard. Would that work?

if this S-Video socket on your graphics is a input indeed, then, yes, it'll work. Usually s-video ports on graphics cards are output only though.

Also, does anyone know of the best capture software?

iuVCR and it's successor are the best, because they keep 100% perfect sync of audio and video if you're using two different capture devices for audio and video (like you do).

CFO · Post by **CFO** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:18 pm

Hey, thanks for the reply Fudoh!

It appears after some searching that my video card is indeed output only for S-Video.

Could you reccomend me a good capture device that gives the best quality for recording game footage from S-video?

I appreciate your help.

Fudoh · Post by **Fudoh** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:14 am

S-Video isn't critical. You can use practiallly any TV-Card which has an S-Video input. You could also go the external route and get a S-Video to DV converter (which would require Firewire on your PC though).

It doesn't get complicated (or expensive) unless you want component or RGB capture.

CFO · Post by **CFO** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:55 am

So the quality of most internal PCI/PCI-E capture cards with S-video input will be the same? I was curious if there are any stand out models that work well with capturing many different PCBs.

If anyone has had experience capturing S-Video for lo-res games could you please give a recommendation for the best bang-for-buck card?

robivy64 · Post by **robivy64** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:52 pm

You will more than likely not be able to capture video directly to a PC capture card. I have tried on a few different cards, and the cards will not recognize the video on 95% of the boards I tested.

I use a DVD recorder and it works great on all of them.

CFO · Post by **CFO** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:41 pm

robivy64 wrote:You will more than likely not be able to capture video directly to a PC capture card. I have tried on a few different cards, and the cards will not recognize the video on 95% of the boards I tested.

I use a DVD recorder and it works great on all of them.

Hi, you try to use S-video with this device before? Now that you mention it the auction really only said about compatibility with different DVD recorders...Thanks for the heads up.

SinHo · Post by **SinHo** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:53 pm

I bought this: http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-Video-Tr ... B0015E2PQM but i did not get it to work with a similar capture card. I will however try it on a new capture card within a few days ...

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:27 am

S-vid to firewire to PC confused the heck outta me. Wasn't able to find a good freeware capture program after I got my Datavideo part, especially one that would let me view something on my screen as it was being captured.

CFO · Post by **CFO** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:01 am

SinHo wrote:I bought this: http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-Video-Tr ... B0015E2PQM but i did not get it to work with a similar capture card. I will however try it on a new capture card within a few days ...

Ed Oscuro wrote:S-vid to firewire to PC confused the heck outta me. Wasn't able to find a good freeware capture program after I got my Datavideo part, especially one that would let me view something on my screen as it was being captured.

Were you guys using console or arcade capturing? Let me know how it went

SinHo · Post by **SinHo** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:52 am

CFO wrote:
SinHo wrote:I bought this: http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-Video-Tr ... B0015E2PQM but i did not get it to work with a similar capture card. I will however try it on a new capture card within a few days ...

Ed Oscuro wrote:S-vid to firewire to PC confused the heck outta me. Wasn't able to find a good freeware capture program after I got my Datavideo part, especially one that would let me view something on my screen as it was being captured.
Were you guys using console or arcade capturing? Let me know how it went

I will get a new capture card this week, I will upload some photos of the set-up and if possible some samples.

ED-057 · Post by **ED-057** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:08 am

robivy64 wrote:You will more than likely not be able to capture video directly to a PC capture card. I have tried on a few different cards, and the cards will not recognize the video on 95% of the boards I tested.

Yeah anything other than standard PAL or NTSC can be problematic. I have an old PCI TV card (which remains useful thanks to this generic driver http://btwincap.sourceforge.net/ ) and I know that it won't accept 50Hz NTSC for instance.

robivy64 · Post by **robivy64** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:08 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwRDe7KBu1s

The local quality is great, it's just that Youtube turns it into ass. Still combing out the kinks. This was uploaded as an MPEG2.

edit: looks like H.264 might be ideal, i'll upload this video again compressed into that format.

CFO · Post by **CFO** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:09 pm

robivy64 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwRDe7KBu1s

The local quality is great, it's just that Youtube turns it into ass. Still combing out the kinks. This was uploaded as an MPEG2.

edit: looks like H.264 might be ideal, i'll upload this video again compressed into that format.

Hey Rob that looks pretty decent actually, and I bet it would be quite good with 'high quality' toggled on. What DVD Recorder do you use if you don't mind me asking?

robivy64 · Post by **robivy64** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:52 pm

It's nothing special, just a ~$100 Magnavox DVD recorder.

sourdiesel · Post by **sourdiesel** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:56 pm

may i ask - what is that thing you bought? looks like some sort of jamma -> video encoder or something... interesting

rolins · Post by **rolins** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:16 pm

sourdiesel wrote:may i ask - what is that thing you bought? looks like some sort of jamma -> video encoder or something... interesting

The small pcb is a RGB to Video encoder. You can get them for a mere $40 which is a pretty good deal considering JROK is twice that. The wires soldered to the jamma edge has a phono jack + QDs for speakers, a molex connector for RGB, and the power plug. The molex and power plug I assume is to be hooked the video encoder. With all that your better off using a Vogatek Mk.II or newer Mk.V which has s-video included.

CFO · Post by **CFO** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:22 am

sourdiesel wrote:may i ask - what is that thing you bought? looks like some sort of jamma -> video encoder or something... interesting

Hey, it's basically just a jamma to s-video or composite with audio on a seperate line. I'm just still trying to decide which road is better to take; a DVD recorder or internal card for the better of 2 quality.

Yo rolins glad to hear you got the XAV-2S! I actually acquired one like 2 days ago so I'm all set as well

robivy64 · Post by **robivy64** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:47 am

I really don't think a capture card will even work at all.

I have had great success with a DVD recorder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eio0kDBqGTY

rolins · Post by **rolins** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:14 pm

CFO wrote: Yo rolins glad to hear you got the XAV-2S! I actually acquired one like 2 days ago so I'm all set as well

Awesome, I'll ship your scart to JP21 adapter monday morning so you start using it asap