X360 stick

KindGrind · Post by **KindGrind** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:01 pm

The HRAP for X360 is real expensive, 3x as much as the other Hori stick (EX2). Is the EX2 still worth getting? I have SF4 in mind...

soundwave · Post by **soundwave** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:52 pm

I've got an EX2 & it's ok but hardly ideal I really struggle hitting moves on Battle Fantasia with it.

For the 360 Shooters I find it's perfectly acceptable but for fighters it leaves a lot to be desired.

Mine also has the odd moment when it refuses to recognise a button press, which I've heard is a common fault & can be a real PITA mid game & has led to many cheap deaths in Raiden Fighters Aces & Otomedius

I've just invested in a set of Sanwa buttons & new 8 way GT-Y restrictor for mine so hopefully these installed will sort any problems out ready for SFIV.

Neil

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:28 pm

Wait for the SFIV pads.

Sonic R · Post by **Sonic R** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:27 pm

Elixir wrote:Wait for the SFIV pads.

AND the SFIV stick too.
I'll be getting both

I have the DOA4 stick, and its a serviceable stick but I don't find it the greatest… but ANYTHING is better than the shit 360 dpad.

NOTE: I am the last guy to offer opinions on a stick

*I am a didicated user of control pads - but the dpad on the 360 controller is THAT bad…

nash87 · Post by **nash87** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:20 pm

360 Dpads are the worst. there's just no percision with them at all. Playing a FPS with them is fine, but a shmup or a fighting game, they just can't perform. I'm glad a managed to get one of those SFIV tournament edition sticks. It's still bothering me that they're limited to only 3,000. Capcom knows damn well the demand for anything street fighter (even soap) and could have easily sold/made more.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:59 pm

they are making alot more than 3000 of them. markman mentioned on SRK that they sold many times more than that in pre-orders alone, so they are going to make enough to at least cover the pre-orders. if madcatz was smart they would just drop the "limited numbers" idea altogether and keep on making these. unless they don't like money.

On Topic: skip the ex2. wait for the standard edition street fighter 4 stick and put some pro parts in it.

KindGrind · Post by **KindGrind** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:47 pm

Very good. Really concerned about playing the game properly, the d-pad being the worst ever and all.

Alec · Post by **Alec** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:47 am

I think custom would be the way to go with this system.

I just finished hacking a Madcatz gamestop paddle. Way easier than I had anticipated (my 1st pad mod). Heres a link to the case I put it in, I've still yet to paint it:

http://www.norrisarcadesticks.com/

If you want one though, you'll have to wait for the restock and then buy it fast. They all sold out within 5 minutes or so.

Figure the total cost for something like this though:
75 shipped for the box
25 for the madcatz pad
25 for the seimitsu LS-32-01
~$10 for paint
and roughly $2.50 per button

and that HRAP price starts to seem more reasonable (though it'll still need sanwa buttons). Overall I like this stick much better than the HRAP 1 (only one I've played).

Another option is the Madcatz TE FightStick that just came out. Since its a madcatz product though, I'll question the quality of the housing until I'm actually holding on in my hands.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:23 am

My EX2 had the button most people would use for medium kick while playing SF go out about one month after I bought it.

I don't have a very high opinion of the series.

ChurchOfSolipsism · Post by **ChurchOfSolipsism** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:33 pm

I was going to make a similar thread. Right now Im in Tokyo and I wanna get a stick for the xbox 360 too. Ive got different options:

- new HORI fighting stick EX 2 (7380yen) (or was it used? dont remember)
- new Street fighter 4 fighting stick (6800 yen)

- used dead or alive 4 stick (5780yen)
- used virtua fighter 5 live arena stick (5980yen)
- used ascii stick fighting type 2 Capcom VS SNK special package (4580 yen) this ones for the PS2. Id like a good stick for my PS2 as well

Sorry for asking so much, but unfortunately I dont know shit about sticks, so Id be grateful if somebody could tell me which one to get. I will use it exclusively for shooters. Thanks a bunch.

oxoid · Post by **oxoid** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:12 am

The Hori EX stick range(includes the VF hori stick) has a very bad rep on SRK, both the buttons and pcb can die.

Get the SF4 stick(presume it's the standard edition) and get a LS-32-01 in there(iirc it's common ground).

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:49 pm

I had thought of DIY, but...
(1) the analog stick usually couldn't be connected to a on/off switch. Only the D-Pad could be mapped to the joystick. This might create problem in some game.
(2) Besides the XBox360 gamepad is not cheap, Any failed attempt in soldering would cost me $50.. I used to broke 1 PCB for every 1 Joysitck I made.
(There are total 11 buttons, and a D-Pad, 15 x2 = 30 Wires x2 = 60 Soldering points.)
(3) The PS2 HRAP is not cheap either. ( I do have a $75 Tekken 5 HRAP, which could be used for the project, but I think I better save it for the original plan, a second Virtual On Twin Sticks.. )

So it looks like it would still be better to pay for the extra cash.

OR

Wait until the XBox360 HRAP price drop. Yes, when most of the people willing to pay $250 have bought the stick, the price would be lower, and eventually, it would go down to $75 to $125 plus postage.

If a PS2 one could sell for $75, why couldn't the XBox360 one? Is a XBox360 game controller PCB really that costly? I don't think so..

bigbadboaz · Post by **bigbadboaz** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:01 pm

I'd also recommend the standard SFIV FightStick with your choice of parts swapped in. I've got one here now and am very satisfied. You get the best button layout, a reasonably-sized case, and it's quite hefty and solid. If you don't get a defective unit the stock parts are also quite serviceable and you could test it out stock before spending more money for new parts.

Alec · Post by **Alec** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:53 pm

SAM wrote:I had thought of DIY, but...
(1) the analog stick usually couldn't be connected to a on/off switch. Only the D-Pad could be mapped to the joystick. This might create problem in some game.
(2) Besides the XBox360 gamepad is not cheap, Any failed attempt in soldering would cost me $50.. I used to broke 1 PCB for every 1 Joysitck I made.
(There are total 11 buttons, and a D-Pad, 15 x2 = 30 Wires x2 = 60 Soldering points.)
(3) The PS2 HRAP is not cheap either. ( I do have a $75 Tekken 5 HRAP, which could be used for the project, but I think I better save it for the original plan, a second Virtual On Twin Sticks.. )

So it looks like it would still be better to pay for the extra cash.

you can always search out a madcatz pad. they cost $25 brand new and they have a universal ground, meaning half the solder points. Also, afaik, none of the commercial joysticks are connected to the analogue thumb pads, so lacking those shouldn't be a problem.

OR

Wait until the XBox360 HRAP price drop. Yes, when most of the people willing to pay $250 have bought the stick, the price would be lower, and eventually, it would go down to $75 to $125 plus postage.

If a PS2 one could sell for $75, why couldn't the XBox360 one? Is a XBox360 game controller PCB really that costly? I don't think so..

amazon.com sells the xbox 360 hrap for $130 with free domestic shipping. I've seen them listed on ebay for ~$250, but never actually seen them sell.