Ketsui Death Label

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:55 am

I just read through the entire thread and noticed that, sorry

Well, this definitely cramps my hand and does bad things to my eyes, much prefer the real deal, but since they are done with the initial development investment for it, it's likely easy for them to switch art assets and just focus on design / balancing and kick out other shooter themed games on DS... and profit (sounds like it is selling) since less time would be required as all the game systems are now built.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:32 am

What's the deal with some panels being covered again with a sepia-tone panel and the next being darkened out? (in Evac Report)

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:41 am

They require further conditions to be met in order to be unlocked.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:28 pm

MX7 wrote:They require further conditions to be met in order to be unlocked.

Thanks, brah.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:28 pm

i would hope they make more ds death labels. ketsui ds is probably the only ds game i've put any significant time into in quite a while.

which game do you guys think should be next in line?

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:06 pm

A Death Smiles conversion would be great, especially considering the hori orientation. The game is pretty popular and new, and even by its setting alone (little gothic girls) it would sell even more than Ketsui DL. Stage action would be a lot easier here, too, as I found Extra mode really unpleasant to play with all these enemies in crammed hori.

And yeah, seeing that Arika won´t do any Cave console ports anytime soon they might as well do some more of these handheld games.

kemical wrote:(sounds like it is selling)

EOJ at Cave-STG wrote:This game sold another 1900 copies last week, bring its total as of Nov 8th to 10,209 (according to vgchartz.com). That's double the amount Raiden IV or RFA have sold. Looks like there's more money in DS boss rush games than full arcade ports to home consoles, as far as shmups go these days.
(...)The last CAVE port (Ibara PS2) only sold about 4000 copies.

They would be daft to not make more of these games, even from a business standpoint. And I agree - music and art assets are already there. I mean, Mihara did this game completely on his own, right? That sounds like a great manpower to profit ratio to me! And who knows, Cave shmups coming to the DS might even get more people to get interested in the arcade games.
(It might, however, still be possible that Ketsui DL only sold so well because of that DVD, but I can´t really believe that... I think it has more to do with japanese people loving portable games.)

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:37 pm

10,000 copies sold? wow, thats pretty good. i'd like to see the packaging stay the same for future releases (oversized box, pack-in superplay dvd). it's definitely worth $60 to me, and i assume arika makes a decent profit off such a package.

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:43 pm

Watch the next DS game be Progear ..

:: facepalm ::

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:00 pm

I guess if Cave decides it's a profitable thing to release the DS versions of their games, they'll likely outsource them to Arika, anyway.

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:24 pm

Udderdude wrote:Watch the next DS game be Progear ..

:: facepalm ::

I'd fucking want that. No question about it.

John845 · Post by **John845** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:32 pm

Cave needs to do a "collection" release of all their shmups that have been made so far for the ps2/360/ps3 in retail box form.

One can dream.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:49 pm

I want a all-star boss rush with all bosses AND ships from Caves history (a bit like in Batrider).

-Bridget- · Post by **-Bridget-** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:21 am

SFKhoa wrote:
Udderdude wrote:Watch the next DS game be Progear ..

:: facepalm ::
I'd fucking want that. No question about it.

Agreed, that'd be awesome.

As it is, this one is very good indeed.

Currently Im stuck on Very Hard mode, the boss right before Doom is the one that gets me.... dont have all that much trouble with the bosses up to that point, but then I get to that looney thing and I just sorta go splat.... really hate that thing.

Excellent game though. I'd say this was more than worth the wait. Makes me wanna play the full Ketsui even more, too.....

Furoshiki · Post by **Furoshiki** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:00 am

DS Progear should be a no-brainer considering how well-loved that game is (and the art style has pretty broad appeal, more than Ketsui, surely). 2 and a half times as many copies as Ibara already? Do it, Cave.

That, and Muchi Muchi Pork.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:14 pm

MMP would be sweet since it has very intense bosses (with very menacing design, sort of a Batrider/Garegga meets Ketsui), complex scoring (I really don´t mind the bomb exploiting/suiciding) and best of all very big, easy to see bullets. From the looks of it it seems to be the most easy accessible "Cavezing" game so far, and I would kill for a DS port, even though it somehow seems rather unlikely to me.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:19 pm

MMP has way too much slowdown, it won't end up on the DS. If it did, it would be watered down, much like Ketsui DS is, and untrue to itself.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:27 pm

Ketsui DL is also "untrue" to the original game, yet it´s a very fine game by itself. I don´t expect a DS port to keep everything intact. The basic idea is to take the arcade game in question and translate it into a good portable game. Otherwise you could simply keep playing emulated Cave games on the PSP (Progear for instance). I bought Ketsui DL because it was the first handheld Cave game (if you don´t count the mobile games, which I do), not because it was a downgraded port of a unported and unemulated game.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:16 pm

Here´s the replay of the Ketsui DL scoring contest Death Label winner:

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm5757903

3,834,808,230

Thanks to adverse for posting this on Cave-STG.
http://www.cave-stg.com/forum/index.php?topic=450.0

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:04 pm

Frederik wrote:Here´s the replay of the Ketsui DL scoring contest Death Label winner:

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm5757903

3,834,808,230

Thanks to adverse for posting this on Cave-STG.
http://www.cave-stg.com/forum/index.php?topic=450.0

unreal. i bet he was pissed at all those doom deaths. after he whipped evacaneer i thought for sure he was going to no-miss it.

edit: congrats to MMM, the real winner of the extra mode contest.

CStarFlare · Post by **CStarFlare** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:34 am

Yeah, Doom fucking raped his multiplier. Maybe he would have scored better if he had cashed in a bit on Evacaneer instead of using a slightly higher multiplier on Doom 1 and losing 70%ish by the time he cashes in on Doom 3?

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:29 am

While the run was really impressive, he could indeed have improved on it very easily - the dropped the multiplier quite a few times due to not killing parts with the shot.

Any yeah, congrats MMM, it´s a shame Mihara is too bone-headed to accept your score. Pretty arrogant if you ask me. Actually makes me wish I would have pirated the game, he doesn´t care for westeners but he sure took our money.

nash87 · Post by **nash87** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:05 am

another congrats to MMM for being the real victor in Extra. Too bad mihara hates us "round eyes" people

mjclark · Post by **mjclark** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:07 pm

Just as a sidenote...I ran the DS audio for Ketsui DL through my son's gaming chair and,coming through half-decent speakers the soundtrack's fantastic!
There's all sorts of things going on aurally thast you just can't hear through those tiny DS speakers, but put it through an external amp and prepare to be amazed

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:48 pm

Or headphones.

I almost always play DS or PSP games with headphones.

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:02 pm

If he only opened the scores to those in Japan it could have just been an effort to keep it more manageable. If MMM had submitted it in Japan, said 'I'm from Canada', then still not have it submitted, it could have given us a clearer picture.

Or maybe Mihara is just a pea brained dickhead.

Congrats to MMM anyway

MSZ · Post by **MSZ** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:39 pm

I've uploaded my latest run in Extra, check it out guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyELKlFiEQs

robthebanks · Post by **robthebanks** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:58 pm

Man this game is fun.... Still can't beat the Doom and Label modes yet though...

If cave does another shooter on the DS they should use the screens book-style (flipped on its side) and have an additional attachment for more buttons like with the DS version of Guitar Hero.

Never going to happen though...

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:29 pm

MSZ wrote:I've uploaded my latest run in Extra, check it out guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyELKlFiEQs

good run dude. you survived about 3 minutes longer than i can

scrilla4rella · Post by **scrilla4rella** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:47 am

Is this game any good? I just saw the limited edition on sale for 4000yen...

Actually, I think I already made up my mind judging from the posts.

nash87 · Post by **nash87** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:00 pm

scrilla4rella wrote:Is this game any good? I just saw the limited edition on sale for 4000yen...

Actually, I think I already made up my mind judging from the posts.

there is no limited edition. It's the best DS game out there so get it