Bangai-O, DC, Last Boss....WTF?!

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:35 pm

I just recently got this game, and have been putting some time into it. I got to the end, and...uh, this is the cheapest boss I have ever faced. I mean, you die so easily...it's crazy unfair.

Anyway, I don't know if I can beat this guy, although I had him down to about less than one fourth his energy. However, going through the whole stage to get to him is what's keeping me from giving it my all. I've probably gone through the stage 25 times or so.

Well, anyone here had luck with this son of a bitch?

s/m

junkeR · Post by **junkeR** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:22 pm

The last boss is a bastard. I've beaten both the N64 and DC versions, and I think he was even harder on the N64.

It generally takes a good twenty tries to get him down.

Koa Zo · Post by **Koa Zo** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:20 pm

mainly you want to double-tap dash around the perimeter of the screen, and then when the boss unleashes his huge onslaught on missiles, use the small platform (that the boss was standing on at the beginning of the fight) to block the attack. This doesn't make it easy, but it does make it possible.

It took me well over a year to beat Bangai-O, and at one point I almost started to hate the game because of that last boss ~ definitely imbalanced from he rest of the game. None-the-less Bangai-O is one of my favorite games of all time. Too bad they changed the formula so much with Bangai-O Spirits.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:40 pm

i'll have to pull this out again but i dont remember it being all that difficult. when he releases his big crazy attack wait til you are about to get hit then unleash your crazy bomb attack. he'll counter by doing the same thing again and you just keep canceling each others counter-bombs until he misses a beat and gets hit (or you get hit and get to see that awesome continue screen).

of course i could be totally wrong. last time i played this game was probably 2002 or so.

neist · Post by **neist** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:03 pm

I kicked my butt for around a month trying to kill him. I eventually gave up and used the cheat code just so I could see the ending.

Most annoying boss ever.

Arcatech · Post by **Arcatech** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:14 pm

My experience with it is about the same as Broken_Halos. Just go in there with guns blazing.

Eventually you'll get lucky and one of your bombs will nail him. Run like hell when he has his shield up though.

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:29 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVoWLpPS_as

Do it like this.

MrMonkeyMan · Post by **MrMonkeyMan** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:03 am

My run through the Dreamcast final stage would be a better help, I imagine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si8s5FV4-kc

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:44 am

lol- nice one

I missed that one somehow. You have some brilliant runs on a few of these kinds of games- I've used some of your stuff as great learning tools

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:55 pm

MMM nailed it. pretty easy boss, just like i remembered.

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:41 pm

Koa Zo wrote:mainly you want to double-tap dash around the perimeter of the screen, and then when the boss unleashes his huge onslaught on missiles, use the small platform (that the boss was standing on at the beginning of the fight) to block the attack. This doesn't make it easy, but it does make it possible.

It took me well over a year to beat Bangai-O, and at one point I almost started to hate the game because of that last boss ~ definitely imbalanced from he rest of the game. None-the-less Bangai-O is one of my favorite games of all time. Too bad they changed the formula so much with Bangai-O Spirits.

You know, Bangai-O took me a while to warm up to, but now I think it's really cool. I am like that with a lot of Treasure games for some reason. I love them, but it takes me a while to get the hang of their software.

Anyway, you know what really bothers me about Spirits the most is? The graphics. I never hear anyone say anything about this. I understand that they had to have simpler graphics for the large amounts of things going on in the game, but if the sacrifice had to be that great, maybe they shoulda just kept it on the drawing board. I mean, the game looks almost like a beta to me. Astro Boy and Gunstar Super Heroes look 3X better. I understand the limitations they had, but Spirits looks like ass.

Pretty fun though. But I like the DC version better(in gameplay too).

s/m

Post by **undamned** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:30 pm

MrMonkeyMan wrote:My run through the Dreamcast final stage would be a better help, I imagine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si8s5FV4-kc

Destroyed.
-ud

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:40 am

That last boss made me give up on Bangai-O. Such a bastard, plus you have to replay the last level over and over and over and over again.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:35 am

evil_ash_xero wrote:I love them, but it takes me a while to get the hang of their software.

i know what you mean. i've got sin and punishment sitting on my wii but it's got such an odd control scheme that i couldn't get into it. i'll have to go back to that at some point. silhouette mirage took a while for me to get into, but once it all clicked it was brilliant.

junkeR · Post by **junkeR** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:00 pm

brokenhalo wrote:
evil_ash_xero wrote:I love them, but it takes me a while to get the hang of their software.
i know what you mean. i've got sin and punishment sitting on my wii but it's got such an odd control scheme that i couldn't get into it. i'll have to go back to that at some point. silhouette mirage took a while for me to get into, but once it all clicked it was brilliant.

I couldn't seem to get Silhouette Mirage down and I've been through two phases and working with the game. I eventually just gave up on it.

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:12 pm

brokenhalo wrote:
evil_ash_xero wrote:I love them, but it takes me a while to get the hang of their software.
i know what you mean. i've got sin and punishment sitting on my wii but it's got such an odd control scheme that i couldn't get into it. i'll have to go back to that at some point. silhouette mirage took a while for me to get into, but once it all clicked it was brilliant.

Now those two...hmmm...SM I honestly never put much time into. I got it as a freebie when I ordered some imports. It was in Japanese, so I just sorta didn't "get it" at the time.

Sin and Punishment I have on VC, but I kind of can't get into it, because of it's weird ass control scheme.

I'm still gonna have to go with Panzer Dragoon Orta as the ultimate rail shooter.

s/m

boagman · Post by **boagman** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:39 pm

evil_ash_xero wrote:I'm still gonna have to go with Panzer Dragoon Orta as the ultimate rail shooter.

s/m

Now, I'm not being critical here, because I haven't played PDO, but have you played Planet Harriers? Because *man*...that's rail-shooting bliss, right there.

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:36 am

boagman wrote:
evil_ash_xero wrote:I'm still gonna have to go with Panzer Dragoon Orta as the ultimate rail shooter.

s/m
Now, I'm not being critical here, because I haven't played PDO, but have you played Planet Harriers? Because *man*...that's rail-shooting bliss, right there.

No I haven't, but I went to it's Wiki. I see it's an Arcade only game, so I doubt i'll ever get to play it. Is it over 9000?

Ah, but you gotta play PDO. It's a beautiful thing indeed. It's like the older ones, but they added more elements like having to speed up and slow down when fighting bosses(sounds simple, but it actually can make you fly behind them and dodge attacks, or get to their weak spots) and warping on will into three different types of dragons that are good for the situation. It's just a great and beautiful game.

s/m

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:26 am

I wish they'd release this game as an xbox live game.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:34 pm

landshark wrote:I wish they'd release this game as an xbox live game.

PDO is backwards compatible. just a shame it looks like crap on my hdtv. it's a fun game though.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:35 pm

brokenhalo wrote:
landshark wrote:I wish they'd release this game as an xbox live game.
PDO is backwards compatible. just a shame it looks like crap on my hdtv. it's a fun game though.

Dude, he's likely talking about:

topic title wrote:Bangai-O, DC, Last Boss.... WTF?!

Not for shame as even the topic starter got this thread off-topic in the first place. Wouldn't you wonder why someone would want an Xbox game on XBLA though? Doesn't make much sense at all.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:17 pm

Limbrooke wrote:
brokenhalo wrote:
landshark wrote:I wish they'd release this game as an xbox live game.
PDO is backwards compatible. just a shame it looks like crap on my hdtv. it's a fun game though.
Dude, he's likely talking about:
topic title wrote:Bangai-O, DC, Last Boss.... WTF?!
Not for shame as even the topic starter got this thread off-topic in the first place. Wouldn't you wonder why someone would want an Xbox game on XBLA though? Doesn't make much sense at all.

hahaha. sorry, just following the flow of the thread. i don't think they would bother porting this to xbla arcade. if the sales figures from ikaruga scared treasure off from porting RSG there is no way they'd try a lesser known title like bangai-o. i'd probably buy it again if they did though.

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:20 pm

brokenhalo wrote:
Limbrooke wrote:
brokenhalo wrote: PDO is backwards compatible. just a shame it looks like crap on my hdtv. it's a fun game though.
Dude, he's likely talking about:
topic title wrote:Bangai-O, DC, Last Boss.... WTF?!
Not for shame as even the topic starter got this thread off-topic in the first place. Wouldn't you wonder why someone would want an Xbox game on XBLA though? Doesn't make much sense at all.
hahaha. sorry, just following the flow of the thread. i don't think they would bother porting this to xbla arcade. if the sales figures from ikaruga scared treasure off from porting RSG there is no way they'd try a lesser known title like bangai-o. i'd probably buy it again if they did though.

Were the sales for Ikaruga on XBLA bad? God, that's depressing if so. I mean, it just sort makes you realize that even on a platform where games like Sonic 2 and BC rearmed(2D games), that there is still no place for the shmup. It was cheap too. People just don't like them, I suppose. Depressing.

Yeah, Bangai-O on XBLA would be great.

s/m

John845 · Post by **John845** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:59 pm

Bangai-O was my main reason for getting a Dreamcast. Amazing game, the chaos that occurs is mind blowingly awesome. As for the last boss, I saw Mrmonkeymans videos on youtube for tips and after attempting the boss 15 times or so I was able to kill him. Its all about timing really, wait till the last second to launch your missile barrage. I wish someone could make this game as a doujin shooter on the PC (up the missile count to 10,000?

) or even as a xbla release.

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:33 am

Limbrooke wrote: Not for shame as even the topic starter got this thread off-topic in the first place. Wouldn't you wonder why someone would want an Xbox game on XBLA though? Doesn't make much sense at all.

Because it's alot easier to select games from the menu rather than get up and swap the CD =) Plus the size of the game is small and doesn't necessarily warrant a CD/DVD.