shmups on a modded xbox (the old one)

quälgeist · Post by **quälgeist** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:35 pm

Scince my Sega Saturn died last year the only console I still own is an old modded Xbox I mainly used for watching movies.

There aren't many shmups for that system so I tried Mameox and Garegga seems to run perfectly.

I would like to know what other shmups are emulated well enough to play for score on the Xbox, most of the Cave games and old Psikyo stuff seems to run pretty good but I can't compare them to the original PCBs.

Sorry for my crappy english

cools · Post by **cools** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:29 pm

Stick Final Burn Alpha XXX on there and you've got all the CPS1/CPS2/MVS stuff, along with a whole pile of Cave/Raizing/Psikyo etc

Much the same as MAME but importantly they run REALLY well in comparison.

You've also got the opportunity to use the various 8/16-bit console emulators too and the shmups on those.

quälgeist · Post by **quälgeist** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:53 pm

Thanks for the quick reply

I already recognised that the cps2 games are running really bad in Mameox so I will give it a try and check out Gunbird 2 in FBA tomorrow.

I heard it does have some kind of control lag so are the Raizing, non cps-Psikyo and Cave games really better playable in FBA?

Most important to me are Batrider and Bakraid

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:59 pm

some things you need to know,first off mameox is really old and there is a new mame for xbox just released a week ago called coinops gold.
list of shmups you can play.
battle garrega
battle bakraid
batsugun
all cps1,2,neogeo
vasara1and2
strikers 1945 1,2 and 1999
storm blade
gunbird 1and2(all psykio shmups.)
and loads more.......
fbaxxx dosent emulate gunbird2 or any of the games that play on the psykio sh2 hardware.
but sh1 games run fine like gunbird,strikers 1945........
also try out pcsxbox it plays rtype delta,raiden project,raiden dx,souky/terra driver,gradius gaiden,einhander........perfectly.
the newest version of pcsxbox is version 19.
also mameox 128 plus runs raiden fighters 2(2000) damn fine as well.

quälgeist · Post by **quälgeist** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:08 pm

list of shmups you can play.
battle garrega
battle bakraid
batsugun
all cps1,2,neogeo
vasara1and2
strikers 1945 1,2 and 1999
storm blade
gunbird 1and2(all psykio shmups.)
and loads more.......

And all these games are really working fine?? That would be totally awesome

What about batrider though?

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:52 pm

espbatrider works fine on coinops gold and fbaxxx.

thamasha69 · Post by **thamasha69** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:41 am

I used to run fbaxxx, and I did notice some controller input lag.

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:26 pm

in the old versions of fbaxxx you used to get some input lag on the controller but that has been fixed in the newer versions.

moms dude · Post by **moms dude** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:26 pm

Coinops gold looks great. But I am missing the options menu to rotate 90 degrees to play in tate. Can you tell me how to find it? At least in mamedox this was possible in the options menu.
BTW I have two coinops versions. One is called CoinopsGold Final (2008-11-11) with a size of 80,9 MB and one is simply called coinops gold and it has a size of 184,4 MB

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:51 pm

moms dude wrote:Coinops gold looks great. But I am missing the options menu to rotate 90 degrees to play in tate. Can you tell me how to find it? At least in mamedox this was possible in the options menu.
BTW I have two coinops versions. One is called CoinopsGold Final (2008-11-11) with a size of 80,9 MB and one is simply called coinops gold and it has a size of 184,4 MB

they are the both the same emus.coinops gold has the screen rotation taken out and why i dont know.
you will have to use the last version of this emu if you want screen rotation its called coinops+.
coinops gold has these new features that coinops+ dosent.
lightgun support
fixeight (bootleg) now emulated properly
megatech driver added(megadrive games).
there will be a new version of coinops coming soon with these new games added.
streetfighter1(playable on xbox mame for first time.
raiden fighters2
the crystal of kings
if you want to use tate then use coinops+,it has a seperate gamesave so you can run gold as well.
and some more drivers being added.

quälgeist · Post by **quälgeist** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:29 pm

coinops+ is very nice!

Tried some Cave and Raizing titles aswell as a few Neo Geo and CPS2 games and all seem to run really well, I just couldn't get the sound to work in some of the newer Psikyo games like Strikers 1945 2, Strikers 1999 or Dragon Blaze.

I don't care about light gun support or other features I wouldn't even have noticed if I can't play in TATE so the + version works for me.

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:02 pm

the reason there isnt any sound in dragon blaze,strikers1945 2,3....
is because if sound is enabled then you tend to get some frame skipping when things get busy.so the author of the emu turned off sound on the games that run like that.
if you want to play those games with sound then use mameox 128plus.
you will get frame jump when things get busy but you will also have sound.
also you can take screenshots in-game and they will display on the rom-list when you exit a game.check the in-game controls by pushing the white or black button on the rom menu.
be sure to try out progear it plays really well.
glad you like coinops+.

moms dude · Post by **moms dude** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:19 pm

Thank you very much fumanchu,

great to have such guys in the community like you. I will try the +-version immediately – tate is extremely important for me. I tried coinops in yoko and Cyvern seems to run much better than on mamedox. So I´m curious if it feels the same in tate. BTW is there any chance to get Sengeki Striker and Brave Blade running on coinops?

Thanks again fumanchu. It´s really appreciated!

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:13 pm

moms dude wrote:Thank you very much fumanchu,

great to have such guys in the community like you. I will try the +-version immediately – tate is extremely important for me. I tried coinops in yoko and Cyvern seems to run much better than on mamedox. So I´m curious if it feels the same in tate. BTW is there any chance to get Sengeki Striker and Brave Blade running on coinops?

Thanks again fumanchu. It´s really appreciated!

sengeki striker runs way to slow on coinops and mameox128 seeing as it is based on stv hardware.brave blade is really slow as well as that is based on ps1 arcade hardware.
if you want to run sengeki striker then play it on pcsxbox19 as it plays perfectly.
cyvern in tate mode along with other shmups plays fine.

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:12 pm

i forgot to mention that in coinops on games like forgotten worlds,ikari warriors......any game that uses a 360 degree swivel joystick.you can now rotate them round 360degrees by using the left trigger or right trigger,you could not do this before on mame or fba for xbox.

OdiousTrident · Post by **OdiousTrident** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:23 pm

Dimahoo and Progear run excellently as well.

agustusx · Post by **agustusx** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:48 pm

good thread, gonna need to load this on the good old xbox. I gave up on mameox months ago since games like Dragonblaze ran like poo. Good to hear there is something better.

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:14 pm

just a quick update on a new release for coinops.
tate mode is going to be added for vertical shooters.
new games added.
raiden fighters2(2000) has been added.
crystal of kings added.
streetfighter1 added
hyper streetfighter2 anniversary added.
also looking at adding raiden fighters jet.the game does load up and works in attract mode but the driver needs some work done to it,so hopefully the author can get it up and running.

quälgeist · Post by **quälgeist** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:42 pm

sounds really nice..

when will the new version be released?

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:45 pm

it should be released possibly in the next couple of weeks if all goes to plan.
has anyone tried the sharpx68000 emu on the xbox(x68000x),cho-ren sha is just awsome,i am actually surprised at the amount of shooters on this system.

agustusx · Post by **agustusx** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:22 pm

coinops+ did fine and Dangun and Dodonpachi, however it suffered from frame skipping in Dragon Blaze and early on the first stage it crashed the xbox. Then the xbox would not turn on again for about 15 minutes. guess ill stay in the puter room.

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:28 pm

[quote="agustusx"]coinops+ did fine and Dangun and Dodonpachi, however it suffered from frame skipping in Dragon Blaze and early on the first stage it crashed the xbox. Then the xbox would not turn on again for about 15 minutes. guess ill stay in the puter room.[/quote
ive never heard of that happening before,i have played through a few levels of the game and never had any problems.

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:04 pm

New version of coinops called coinops ignite with some new features.
screen rotation has been put back in.
rotate controls when screen is rotated.
semi autofire and full auto-fire added.
can assign autofire to any button.
720p hd mode added(first time in xbox mame.)
turn vmm on or off.
original apect ratio in screen rotate mode.
turn sound on or off,isnt locked anymore.
aspect video options added.
all these options can be turned on or off as you wish.

author is going to be working on in next release filters,looking at adding new games.

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:49 pm

fumanchu wrote:rotate controls when screen is rotated.

Great. You can play Progear as a vertical shmup this way.
Emph

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:48 pm

emphatic wrote:
fumanchu wrote:rotate controls when screen is rotated.
Great. You can play Progear as a vertical shmup this way.
Emph

Great,you havent a clue!only the vertical screen games are rotated.
and in your own words,Emph!!!!

TodayIsForgotten · Post by **TodayIsForgotten** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:12 pm

There's also Kawa-x. I havent used it myself, but it also plays the cps games.

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:07 am

yeah kawax is a good cps1,2 and neogeo emu but ts been bettered by fbaxxx for a long time now.kawax is about 5 years old if i remember.

TodayIsForgotten · Post by **TodayIsForgotten** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:34 am

Good to know. Ironically, i had a friend over the other day. I was really into beating metal slug 3 on 1cc over XBLA, which i did finally do a couple weeks ago. Wanted to show my friend emulation on a modded xbox and the metal slug series wouldnt work. Did some research and found kawa-x (i like kawaks for the pc) forgot FBA was ported to the box as well. Good info. Thanks.

fumanchu · Post by **fumanchu** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:59 pm

what i would say about kawax is that it gives you a better quality image on the screen.

quälgeist · Post by **quälgeist** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:56 pm

Raiden Fighters 2 seems to run very well except some sound problems.