Death Smiles: Countdown to North America Invasion

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:45 am

moozooh wrote:Mmmh, Casper is one horny slut, isn't she.

Why don't you have a seat over there ..

ChurchOfSolipsism · Post by **ChurchOfSolipsism** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:54 pm

Udderdude wrote:
moozooh wrote:Mmmh, Casper is one horny slut, isn't she.
Why don't you have a seat over there ..

Somebody shop Casper's head in there...

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:45 pm

Next up on "How to catch an Otaku"

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:24 pm

I'm glad I didn't preorder the LE, because I prefer the original box art. But I still don't have anywhere to preorder that from though.

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:34 pm

She's 3D.

Jockel wrote:I dunno - i wasn't as as impressed as you are.
It's fun and all, but in my humble opinion not on par with Futari or Muchi Muchi.
Liked the setting and the music of the game, but it didn't feel as satisfying as the other 2 i mentioned.

The presentation is top notch and the art direction is awesome, do you just feel let down by the difficulty and lack of achievement from that? Because Mega Black Label is freaking hard, I never saw anyone come close to defeating both extra stages and the powered up Tyrannosatan, and this is without using the new difficulty level and while using Sakura (who is cheaper than Rosa and pretty much made for suicide bullet cancelling).

This is what happens when you tell Cave their game is too easy.

Post by **undamned** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:53 pm

dmauro wrote:
Frederik wrote:Do you think they re-drew the art or did they draw it in high-res first and then scaled it down and cleaned it up? I suppose the latter but then again I have no idea how these things work. Looks really neat! (In the case of the rendered enemies like the ogre they certainly just re-rendered it in hi-res, right?)
I think they usually render them from 3d models.

Cave has been doing this at least since ESP Ra.De. (read in an interview @ gamengai).

RackGaki wrote:I remember reading an interview with one of the people in Vanillaware (Princess Crown, Odin Sphere) and he lamented how difficult it was to find artists who could draw 2D sprites - well.

I don't see why. Think of all the cartoon animators out there.

Kiken wrote:Also, the 360 can't output 240p

Wrong. X360 "SCART" video mode is indeed 240p RGBs (hardware selected, not in menu's).

hirounder wrote:

What a horrible cover. I can't imagine anyone who is not a pedophile thinking that "normal." Not to mention, you still have absolutely no idea what the game is about (my guess would be some horror themed hentai dating sim).
-ud

RackGaki · Post by **RackGaki** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:55 pm

The limited edition cover is ridiculously embarrassing. The preliminary cover art for the regular edition, while not embarrassing, isn't great, either.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:36 pm

moozooh wrote:Mmmh, Casper is one horny slut, isn't she.

The short, blond goth girl
Enjoys molesting her in
The little white dress.

thamasha69 · Post by **thamasha69** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:18 am

Wrong. X360 "SCART" video mode is indeed 240p RGBs (hardware selected, not in menu's).

So if I got a SCART cable for my 360, it would automatically output 240p?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:30 am

Wrong. X360 "SCART" video mode is indeed 240p RGBs (hardware selected, not in menu's).

Are you sure? Do any games actually output 240p?

Post by **undamned** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:37 am

thamasha69 wrote:
Wrong. X360 "SCART" video mode is indeed 240p RGBs (hardware selected, not in menu's).
So if I got a SCART cable for my 360, it would automatically output 240p?

Yeah, but that's only good for your SCART TV. If you want to run the thing on some other RGB monitor, you can hack a SCART cable. Or if you want to make your own cable from scratch, Page 7 of this doc shows how to activate different video modes: http://dwl.xbox-scene.com/tutorial/Xbox ... C-V1_4.pdf
-ud

dmauro · Post by **dmauro** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:16 pm

Whoa, this 240p on the 360 business is new to me. What are the odds that the new Cave releases will take advantage of it?

antron · Post by **antron** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:26 pm

can anyone list one game that does? I think the hardware selection would just select RGB that an SD TV can handle. Then it's up to the game, like the PS2.

dmauro · Post by **dmauro** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:37 pm

antron wrote:...then it's up to the game, like the PS2.

Which of course then makes one wonder if the games can be forced into 240p by hacking the ISO and reburning to DVD as you can do on the PS2 with Mushi and Ibara.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:58 pm

Icarus wrote:
moozooh wrote:Mmmh, Casper is one horny slut, isn't she.
The short, blond goth girl
Enjoys molesting her in
The little white dress.

Great haiku xD

antron · Post by **antron** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:59 pm

dmauro wrote:
antron wrote:...then it's up to the game, like the PS2.
Which of course then makes one wonder if the games can be forced into 240p by hacking the ISO and reburning to DVD as you can do on the PS2 with Mushi and Ibara.

you cannot alter the image or the 360 will reject it.

dmauro · Post by **dmauro** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:17 pm

antron wrote:
dmauro wrote:
antron wrote:...then it's up to the game, like the PS2.
Which of course then makes one wonder if the games can be forced into 240p by hacking the ISO and reburning to DVD as you can do on the PS2 with Mushi and Ibara.
you cannot alter the image or the 360 will reject it.

360 hacking is not coming along quickly enough. Still no region bypass, and xfps is the only way to use a PS2 controller. Well, maybe down the road.

At any rate, it would be pretty awesome to see a list of 240p 360 games if this is indeed true.

antares · Post by **antares** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:53 pm

dmauro wrote: 360 hacking is not coming along quickly enough. Still no region bypass, and xfps is the only way to use a PS2 controller. Well, maybe down the road.

I have tried the XFPS and it suffers from input lag. It's crap.

dmauro · Post by **dmauro** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:39 pm

antares wrote:
dmauro wrote: 360 hacking is not coming along quickly enough. Still no region bypass, and xfps is the only way to use a PS2 controller. Well, maybe down the road.
I have tried the XFPS and it suffers from input lag. It's crap.

Not to get off topic, but I read on SRK that the 3.0 or maybe the 3.0 plus or some form of the newer xfps adapters work without lag.

Fudoh · Post by **Fudoh** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:47 pm

Yeah, but that's only good for your SCART TV. If you want to run the thing on some other RGB monitor, you can hack a SCART cable. Or if you want to make your own cable from scratch, Page 7 of this doc shows how to activate different video modes: http://dwl.xbox-scene.com/tutorial/Xbox ... C-V1_4.pdf

Scart RGB mode is 480i, not 240p. The 360 cannot do 240p.

Post by **undamned** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:06 am

Well, Fudoh, with all do respect:

This is Lego Starwars running with a hacked SCART cable on my friend's XBOX 360 to my Amiga 1080 (RGBs to the DB-9 connector).

Unless I'm mistaken about the capabilities of 1080 series monitors and they can run 480i via the RGB input, this is an XBOX 360 running 240p.
-ud

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:50 am

That looks pretty damn low-res. But is it low-res ENOUGH? :O

I'm not satisfied until I see the 360 running at 120p. Yeah, you heard me.

Post by **undamned** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:15 am

Udderdude wrote:I'm not satisfied until I see the 360 running at 120p.

I'm not satisfied until I see Ketsui running on my GB Color.
-ud

antron · Post by **antron** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:38 am

undamned wrote: Unless I'm mistaken about the capabilities of 1080 series monitors and they can run 480i via the RGB input, this is an XBOX 360 running 240p.
-ud

I think the scanlines would be more visible.

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:49 am

As long as you scale the image with nearest it doesn't freaking matter.

Kron · Post by **Kron** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:30 am

The Europe standard for a scart connection IS 480i. Progressive scan is not possible. At all times it will only be interlaced.

If your 360 is set to output via scart then its definately 480i.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:39 pm

undamned wrote:What a horrible cover. I can't imagine anyone who is not a pedophile thinking that "normal." Not to mention, you still have absolutely no idea what the game is about (my guess would be some horror themed hentai dating sim).
-ud

Well, it's basically about 4 gothic lolis in a casket.

So.. when is this released again?

antron · Post by **antron** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:13 pm

Kron wrote:The Europe standard for a scart connection IS 480i. Progressive scan is not possible. At all times it will only be interlaced.

If your 360 is set to output via scart then its definately 480i.

480p is not possible. 240p is. otherwise you would not be able to play PS1 or some PS2 games with scart on those TVs. or saturn, or etc..

Post by **undamned** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:46 pm

people wrote:conflicting "facts" about video standards

Haha.

Kron wrote:The Europe standard for a scart connection IS 480i.

SCART is just the connector. It can take various forms of analog video other than RGB including composite video. In the case of composite video, you are correct about it being 480i.
-ud

antron · Post by **antron** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:14 pm

undamned wrote: In the case of composite video, you are correct about it being 480i.
-ud

wrong, see NES. the scanlines just aren't as distinct as with RGB

do you think the 360 dashboard is also coming out in 240p when you connect a scart cable? no way. or that lego game. developers almost always use at least 480i these days. more resolution and looks better from far away. only arcade ports look better in 240p with your face to the screen. less flicker.

but I have hope the 360 can do it, if the game chooses to.

added:
but the fact that the original xbox could not do it gives me doubt