Is it possible to skip a console generation?

[FatCobra]

I was curious to see if anyone is actually even remotely interested in the next-gen consoles. The Nintendo Revolution has caught my interest, but if I'd wanted to play old Nintendo games, I'd go download some ROMS or hook up my older systems. Plus, there's still the rumors of some sort of virtual reality/gyroscope/toaster device in the machine. Sounds like another Virtual Boy if you ask me.

Then there's Xbox 360, which M$ is attempting to push out the door too quickly....geez I just got my PS2 a couple months ago and the next gen's already here! MS is pulling off a Sega here...Dreamcast got stomped by PS2 in the States. But M$ has one thing Sega doesn't have: lots of money. The games on it look almost the same as Xbox's. M$ may be shooting themselves in the feet here due to the competition releasing their consoles later and have more powerful specs (not that I give a rat's rear about how well a system can render a football player's ass).

PS3....I don't know anything about besides the Ikaruga ripoff controller and the ability to use two TVs at once.

The next-gen really either doesn't really interest me, or some of the new stuff is just plain weird to risk dumping money into. Ever since aquiring my Saturn, the thought had crossed my mind: Is it possible to skip a generation of videogames? Being born after a generation has passed doesn't count. The Ataris and Intellvisions were before my time, so it does not count. Is defying the metaility of keeping up with the Joneses a testament to gamers who are fed up with hype and bullshit? I for one, am.

So I'm going to resist the urge to blow $300 on a shiny new system, and try to skip an entire generation of machines. I'd figure I will have plenty of games across all my older systems that I probably won't be missing much, until there's a killer app for a next-gen that I must absolutey have.

Who cares if the football players' rear ends are so well rendered that they are just as fat and hairy as their real counterparts? I'll be over there blowing up random 2-D spacecraft.

P.S: I know it seems I have a fixtation on rear ends, I'm just trying to make a point of how people rave over graphics and the yearly Madden update with a $50 sticker price. I'm not gay, I promise.

[uwfan]

anythings possible.

[jp]

If I get a new console, it will be the Xbox 360, and I will purchase it only so that friends and stuff will have something to play on the nice panel screen I'll be getting in August.



Other than that... no. I sold my Xbox and Gamecube awhile back, and I really don't feel I'm missing anything without them.

[FatCobra]

Other than that... no. I sold my Xbox and Gamecube awhile back, and I really don't feel I'm missing anything without them.

Yeah, I sold my Cube a few months back too....I'm not really going to miss it much, but I will miss out on the new Zelda. Oh well, gotta make scarifices I guess.

[jp]

Other than that... no. I sold my Xbox and Gamecube awhile back, and I really don't feel I'm missing anything without them.

Yeah, I sold my Cube a few months back too....I'm not really going to miss it much, but I will miss out on the new Zelda. Oh well, gotta make scarifices I guess.

After the travesty that was "Searching for Triforce pieces in the fucking ocean", Nintendo would have to include mini-shmup levels that are on par with Radiant Silvergun to make me come back to that franchise.

[sethsez]

I just got my PS2 a couple months ago and the next gen's already here!

I just bought a black and white TV and now they expect me to upgrade to color?!

The PS2 has been available for years. Just because you're a late adopter doesn't mean it's new.

In any case, we know next to nothing about the systems, so what is there to talk about? Why don't we wait until we actually see some release dates, some announced games, or anything at all from Sony and Nintendo before we start judging whether they're going to be worth buying or not? And as for the 360, we've also seen precious little from it too.

Besides, these machines are hardware. That's all. What matters is the games that are released on them, and on that front we've seen squat because developers haven't even had the time to finish a single game yet.

[FatCobra]

After the travesty that was "Searching for Triforce pieces in the fucking ocean", Nintendo would have to include mini-shmup levels that are on par with Radiant Silvergun to make me come back to that franchise.

True dat, Wind Waker I thought was pretty mediorce at best. I hated the sailing, couldn't they have given Link a speedboat?

Looks like the new gimmik in this Zelda game is the horseback riding....wasn't that already done in the N64 game? At least the badass mature Link is back instead of the Powerpuff wannabe.

The 2-D Zelda's were better anyway.

[janrodricks]

This coming year I'm gonna find out if it's possible. Ha

[sethsez]

I preferred the "Powerpuff" Link. The idea of Zelda as mature still seems somewhat backwards to me and the style of Wind Waker was amazing, even if the game wasn't.

And the best games in the Zelda series are the original and Link's Awakening.

[jp]

I like A Link to the Past and Minish Cap the best personally.

[FatCobra]

I like A Link to the Past and Minish Cap the best personally.

I wanted to play Link to the Past so badly that I didn't want to go to some stupid Boy Scouts Jamboree. I think that there should be a law that it is required that a gamer must cancel all activites and chores when they acquire a new game, and said new game must be played for at least six hours straight. If the gamer is a kid and the parent bought the game for them, but doesn't let them play it right away, then they must be punished by being lashed a thousand times while being raped by horny hounds.

Unless it is a birthday or Christmas present of course.

[The n00b]

I was going to post a hilarious penny-arcade cartoon making fun of people who spell MS "M$" but alas penny-arcade has removed it from their archives.

Instead let's all be amused by the "x-sux," "pos2,""GamePube," and $ony and this cartoon:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?d ... 4-24&res=l

[iatneH]

I don't think I've ever completely skipped a generation, but even if I do I'll probably come back to it later.

The closest I probably came was with the N64-PS1-Saturn generation, I bought a N64 a few months after launch (I was sooooooo hyped up for it) and was horribly disappointed, I only got two games for it that appealed to me, and all that left me too poor for a while and too bitter to want to play any more games for a while. I didn't buy a PS1 until the PSOne launched (don't remember if it was before or after PS2 launch) but by that time I had already stopped playing N64 for years. I didn't buy my 3rd N64 game (Star Soldier) until after I played Ikaruga.

After that, I went back to fill in my console gaps in past generations, with Saturn, Virtual Boy, Genesis, SegaCD, 32X, and PC-Engine, all for the sake of shooters. However, even with all these gaps, I don't consider the 8 and 16 bit generations skipped since I actively played NES and SNES for nearly their whole lifespans.

Oh yeah, I guess that turned into a rant of how I think Nintendo began to suck harder and harder starting with the N64. I'm still disappointed with my GameCube and DS (in fact the second game I ever sold in my whole life was for DS just last week). There had better be something amazing with the Revolution.

[FatCobra]

Speaking of Penny Arcade, I've always wondered what the hell that talking console of theirs is supposed to be. Is he a Saturn or a Dreamcast?

The first-generation 3D consoles will always leave a bad taste in my mouth. The N64 made me lose faith in Nintendo. The Saturn is cool though.

[Neon]

If I get a new console, it will be the Xbox 360, and I will purchase it only so that friends and stuff will have something to play on the nice panel screen I'll be getting in August.

You have paid attention to the hardware section, right? Saturn will look like ass on that thing.

[Rob]

There's a reason dave4shmups stopped making topics like this.

[sethsez]

To give FatCobra a chance to shine?

[PaCrappa]

At least the badass mature Link is back

Quoted for absurdity. Back? He was mature once? But not recently? What do you mean by mature? When, previously, was he mature? Was it in the NES ones? How about in Link to the Past? Was he mature in Ocarina of Time? Or was it Majora's Mask? I haven't played those CD-i games so maybe it's them. Because last time I checked, Link ain't never been nothing but a geeky little green hat wearin' fruitcake of a nancyboy. And it looks like he's wearing the same hat in this next game.

LOL, "mature". What does he do now that he's back, kill prostitutes and steal cars?

Pa

[99pence]

LOL, "mature". What does he do now that he's back, kill prostitutes and steal cars?

Pa

And now he's got nice big muscles and his green skirt rucks up a little bit when he walks.

Cos err thats what people wanted. Errr...

[jp]

If I get a new console, it will be the Xbox 360, and I will purchase it only so that friends and stuff will have something to play on the nice panel screen I'll be getting in August.

You have paid attention to the hardware section, right? Saturn will look like ass on that thing.

Thats why teh Satty and PC-Engine Duo (and the respective collections) will be in MY ROOM on MY 20'' S-Video flat screen monitor. I'm buying the panel screen for our living room since I recently got an apartment and don't have to worry about "Strangers" (read: random roomates) fucking my shit up. The Xbox 360 will be more for him and any other friends than me, since I'll be hoarding 400-500 games back in my room for myself.


But yeah, like hell I'm going to try playing Radiant Silvergun on a 50'' screen... I can't even play worth a crap on a 25''!!!

[jp]

I like A Link to the Past and Minish Cap the best personally.

I wanted to play Link to the Past so badly that I didn't want to go to some stupid Boy Scouts Jamboree. I think that there should be a law that it is required that a gamer must cancel all activites and chores when they acquire a new game, and said new game must be played for at least six hours straight. If the gamer is a kid and the parent bought the game for them, but doesn't let them play it right away, then they must be punished by being lashed a thousand times while being raped by horny hounds.

Thats a bit hardcore, but I somewhat agree. When I was in 2nd grade I got signed up for Tee Ball by my parents... and one day I bought Kickle Cubickle (spelling?) but had to go to practice. *sigh*

[iatneH]

Dude. That lashed and raped by horny hounds sounds like an anime I watched. It was good. Even though I would never wish that upon anyone I know who I think is hot. Maybe to someone I hate, especially since most of the people I hate are men.

Going along with this "mature" Zelda thing... most of us played the old Zelda games when we were but wee little ones. Now that we've grown up, why should Nintendo make Link more "mature" to appease us old farts (only ones who actually care in the first place)? What would the young ones of today play? By keeping things the same, sure it might alienate some self-conscious veteran gamers, but at least their market will keep turning over with fresh blood.

[Diabollokus]

Does not owning a gamecube ps2 or xbox count as skipping a generation?, i do own a DC though and badass PC.

[black mariah]

Speaking of Penny Arcade, I've always wondered what the hell that talking console of theirs is supposed to be. Is he a Saturn or a Dreamcast?

Neither. Nor is it a console. It's a Divx player.

Of course the games look almost the same. LOOK AT EARLY GENESIS GAMES AND COMPARE THEM TO LATE MASTER SYSTEM/NES GAMES. There isn't a massive leap in technology. There are more colors, but that's about it. The first round of titles on new system ALWAYS look pretty much like the last titles of the previous generation consoles because that's what the developers know how to do. They don't know how to push the new consoles the way they do the old ones.

Is defying the metaility of keeping up with the Joneses a testament to gamers who are fed up with hype and bullshit?

And how many posts does this make from people pissing and moaning about new consoles? Maybe that 'keeping up with the Joneses' mentality is simply a desire to not spend eternity in 1993 pumping quarters into Hot Dog Storm.

Who cares if the football players' rear ends are so well rendered that they are just as fat and hairy as their real counterparts?

People that aren't fucking Luddites content to play the same shit over and over for twenty goddamned years.

I'm just trying to make a point of how people rave over graphics and the yearly Madden update with a $50 sticker price.

Nobody that plays shooters has any business whatsoever bagging on other types of games for doing the same shit over and over. Try to make a counter-argument and I'll gladly point you towards Seibu and Psikyo.

EVERYONE SAY IT WITH ME! "I am a shooter fan. I don't matter to console manufacturers. My lack of interest in the new consoles is entirely irrelevant." There. Good. Now BELIEVE it and move on with your life. I'm gonna go play some Ikaruga.

[FatCobra]

Geez, I have stirred up a hornets' nest here. I guess I need to stop bitching and go back to playing Midnight Club 3 on my PS2, and then follow up with a round of Strikers 1945 on my Saturn. There can be balance in my life.

I guess I'm complaining because I can't keep buying every new game and system that comes off the assembly line. I do enjoy the smell of a sealed game, but all the plastic in the world can't save a game if it is a pile of crap, which is something I wouldn't be too happy about if I forked over 50 bones for it.

I need to stop with next-gen moaning and just move on. I can't stop the technology, and I may eventually buy one of those next-gen machines (probably when the next-next-gen comes out ). I'll stop with the complaining.

I guess when it boils down to it, it's all about the money and how you spend it. Videogames are an expensive hobby, importing or not. I'm just not ready to risk investing my money into any of these new machines yet.

[PaCrappa]

It's not a big deal. I seem to be less and less excited by each new generation of consoles and each generation seems to produce fewer games that I want but it's okay. I have no intention of buying into the next wave of consoles. But I say that today and the arrival of these consoles and playable software is a long way off. Who knows? Maybe I'll see something I like and buy one. Perhaps a certain piece of software will get me motivated. Perhaps not and I'll spend my money on one of the couple hundred previously released games that I still want to check out.

And this isn't meant to be rude or anything but it is absolutely pointless to ponder the motivations of others. The only person's motivations you can successfully explore are your own and that can be done without internet message boards. Don't take this paragraph the wrong way, please.

Pa

[The n00b]

I'm glad the new consoles are coming out. I'm a big fan of racing games but the genre really didn't take off until the playstation era. The GT series and wipeout series was great and for a time things were looking up. It was great until the GT series went into stagnation mode once its creators figured out they could rehash the GT games, wrap it in hype, and still make the cash.

The Dreamcast and the xbox pushed the racing genre forward though and now even Sony realizes they need to get off their ass and do something. So I'm really excited for the xbox 360 and PS3. I really want to see a next gen Forza 2, GT5, or TOCA.

[raiden]

I guess when it boils down to it, it's all about the money and how you spend it. Videogames are an expensive hobby, importing or not. I'm just not ready to risk investing my money into any of these new machines yet.

it´s not even a risk or an "investment", but a proven fact that buying consoles when they are brand new causes them to lose a lot of value over time. I just started looking at N64 games. They are roughly 1-2% (!) of their original retail price now. N64 cartridges can be had for cheaper than music CDs or Genesis cartridges.
So the more discipline you can throw into the scales, the less you will get ripped off.

[FatCobra]

it´s not even a risk or an "investment", but a proven fact that buying consoles when they are brand new causes them to lose a lot of value over time. I just started looking at N64 games. They are roughly 1-2% (!) of their original retail price now. N64 cartridges can be had for cheaper than music CDs or Genesis cartridges.
So the more discipline you can throw into the scales, the less you will get ripped off.

Well, a new console *can* be an investment. If you don't like it, sell it on eBay. Hopefully you'll get most of your money back.

As for the N64/PS1 era, I'm so glad that we are past that now. I think that will be an era that won't be looked back on too fondly.

Does it really hurt to stay behind and wait for systems to become osbolite? You reap the benefits of price slashes because stores want to get rid of the old stuff to make way for the next gen.

Which reminds me: what do stores do with the games nobody wants?

[Diabollokus]

Yeah I'm looking forward to the next gen consoles myself, pretty sure I'll buy an xbox 360 if panzer dragoon orta will run on it!

the xbox 360 in white with a nice controller looks good don't now about that tower though.