Any sludge metal

tommyb · Post by **tommyb** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:32 pm

Fans on this board? There has to be at least one of you.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:27 pm

i dunno, maybe just a little.
insuiciety rocks. but it's a pretty boring and repeatative genre by nature.

gabe · Post by **gabe** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:17 pm

I dabble in sludge, but wouldn't consider myself anywhere near being a true fan of the genre. I will occasionally spin some Isis, Boris, Mastodon, Crowbar, etc. That's really about it though. True sludge fans may not consider those examples sludgy enough. Not sure.

RedDeathRunning · Post by **RedDeathRunning** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:32 pm

me! Just saw Javelina, 6 dead horses (ex- railsplitter/dragbody guys), and House of Lightening (ex dove, floor, cavity, etc...) last night!

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:29 pm

Javelina is cool. Personally, I dig Buzzov*en, Eyehategod, Thou, Leechmilk, Mugwart, Fistula, 16, etc etc... I could go on for awhile. Doom/sludge is my favorite genre.

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:33 pm

Only a very tiny bit, I generally like the music but i'm not keen on sludge vocals.

tommyb · Post by **tommyb** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:27 pm

gabe wrote:I dabble in sludge, but wouldn't consider myself anywhere near being a true fan of the genre. I will occasionally spin some Isis, Boris, Mastodon, Crowbar, etc. That's really about it though. True sludge fans may not consider those examples sludgy enough. Not sure.

Boris is one of my favorite bands, next to Envy and Thursday.

Crowbar's really old shit is really good, and same with Mastodon. Wasn't the biggest fan of Blood Mountain, though. Anything after Oceanic from Isis sucks, in my opinion.

Any fans of Electric Wizard?

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:38 am

tommyb wrote: Any fans of Electric Wizard?

I've been rocking Witchcult Today in my car lately, though Dopethrone is my personal favorite. The chorus in "Wizard in Black" is one of my top moments in music.

Octopod · Post by **Octopod** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:08 am

Dystopia, Buzzov*en, Eyehategod, Thou

Electric Wizard is more Doom/Stoner metal is it not?

I mean i guess sludge and doom are close but one comes from the punk scene and the other from the metal scene. *shrug*

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:13 am

I'd like to get more into sludge, but I don;t know where to start really. I'm still getting to grips with crust punk

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:47 am

Octopod wrote:Dystopia, Buzzov*en, Eyehategod, Thou

Electric Wizard is more Doom/Stoner metal is it not?

I mean i guess sludge and doom are close but one comes from the punk scene and the other from the metal scene. *shrug*

I think there's a lot of overlap, but they're pretty distinct. I wouldn't call Electric Wizard a sludge band. Sludge bands are usually more intense, more violent, more confrontational.

I'd like to get more into sludge, but I don;t know where to start really.

Eyehategod, specifically the first album.

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:46 am

not to sound like a noob or a retard, but WTF is sludge metal? is it like death metal, where the guys scream in a deep voice and crazy-ass guitar solos?

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:56 am

FatCobra wrote:not to sound like a noob or a retard, but WTF is sludge metal? is it like death metal, where the guys scream in a deep voice and crazy-ass guitar solos?

Not really.

http://www.myspace.com/eyehategod
http://www.myspace.com/fistula666
http://www.myspace.com/buzzovenofficial
http://www.myspace.com/thouband

tommyb · Post by **tommyb** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:23 am

Yeahh, Dopethrone rules. And yeah, definately more stoner/doom, but I figured you guys would be into them.

Surprisingly enough, Premonitions of War's older stuff, especially their split with Benumb (who is great), was pretty decent sludge, really abrasive. And Nights Like These, who started off as a shitty scene-metal band on Victory Records with their first release, "The Faithless", released their latest CD, "Sunlight At Secondhand" and some of the stuff on it reminds me of Eyehategod the Sequel. Check out the song Bay of Pigs.

Oh, and has anyone heard Trap Them's new album? God damn, I swear to god that band can do no wrong.

RedDeathRunning · Post by **RedDeathRunning** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:11 pm

trap them...the hardcore band?

tommyb · Post by **tommyb** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:57 pm

Hardcore/Crust/Grind/Sludge band, yes.

They are the next Converge.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:06 pm

tommyb wrote:Hardcore/Crust/Grind/Sludge band, yes.

They are the next Converge.

good comparison. both bands are amazing. converge hasn't wowed me since jane doe though. i don't know if they have another masterpiece in them.

heavymetalme · Post by **heavymetalme** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:16 pm

I'M A HUGE SLUDGE FAN. I LOVE Eyehategod, Bongzilla, Grief, Cavity, etc. Shit man, I'm happy they're are more. I've got a sludge band of my own called the Old Ones. http://www.myspace.com/thegreatoldones.

tommyb · Post by **tommyb** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:19 pm

brokenhalo wrote:
good comparison. both bands are amazing. converge hasn't wowed me since jane doe though. i don't know if they have another masterpiece in them.

I liked No Heroes, but it just didn't have the "WOW" factor that Jane Doe, or even Caring & Killing had. I saw Trap Them with Disfear at some bar in Lansing back in May I think, it was fucking incredible.

Matsunaga · Post by **Matsunaga** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:00 pm

I'm not into the slow, grinding shit. I saw Crowbar back in the day and wanted to kill myself.. I prefer some speed in my metal.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:39 am

It's not all slow. Goatsblood have some of the most savage sounding blastbeats I've ever heard.

Alec · Post by **Alec** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:42 am

Metal Sludge X

tommyb · Post by **tommyb** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:10 am

Ahhh the "slow grindy" shit is the best, though.

Bongzilla and Weedeater ftw!

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:38 pm

Eyehategod (I personally like Dopesick the best)
Soilent Green

Edit: I would recommend the latest Torche LP for those who are curious about sludge but still wary of the whole "heavy music" thing. A definite gateway album.

tommyb · Post by **tommyb** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:08 pm

Meanderthal rules!

heavymetalme · Post by **heavymetalme** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:54 pm

tommyb wrote:Meanderthal rules!

Meanderthal? Seriously? Shits weak. Torche will never be as awesome as Floor. Steve needs to get his head on straight. Their ST was better.

gabe · Post by **gabe** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:16 pm

Alright, I'm looking for some fairly specific sludge/doom recommendations. I'm hoping someone here can help me out.

I'm not terribly familiar with the genre(s) as I've just recently started exploring them. From my limited experience, I'm a big fan of Weedeater - God Luck and Good Speed. I love the slow powerful (but not quite droney) riffs, and the murkey (but not shitty) production. I also appreciate the fact that the vocals are discernible but still abrasive, as opposed to grumbles which basically turn the vocal track into another instrument. I've come to love Dystopia's self titled release for a lot of the same reasons.

Can anyone point me in the direction of anything similar?

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:20 pm

gabe wrote:Alright, I'm looking for some fairly specific sludge/doom recommendations. I'm hoping someone here can help me out.

I'm not terribly familiar with the genre(s) as I've just recently started exploring them. From my limited experience, I'm a big fan of Weedeater - God Luck and Good Speed. I love the slow powerful (but not quite droney) riffs, and the murkey (but not shitty) production. I also appreciate the fact that the vocals are discernible but still abrasive, as opposed to grumbles which basically turn the vocal track into another instrument. I've come to love Dystopia's self titled release for a lot of the same reasons.

Can anyone point me in the direction of anything similar?

You should check out I Am God Songs by Black Sheep Wall. In my mind, the best metal release of 2008 and unbelievably heavy and sludgy, but with amazing production and dynamics.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:32 pm

gabe wrote:Alright, I'm looking for some fairly specific sludge/doom recommendations. I'm hoping someone here can help me out.

I'm not terribly familiar with the genre(s) as I've just recently started exploring them. From my limited experience, I'm a big fan of Weedeater - God Luck and Good Speed. I love the slow powerful (but not quite droney) riffs, and the murkey (but not shitty) production. I also appreciate the fact that the vocals are discernible but still abrasive, as opposed to grumbles which basically turn the vocal track into another instrument. I've come to love Dystopia's self titled release for a lot of the same reasons.

Can anyone point me in the direction of anything similar?

I'd say Fistula and Ultralord. Just watch what Fistula stuff you buy cause they released a few albums of Sunn0))) style drone stuff. For a Better Tomorrow is fucking great, and the Ultralord CD "We Hate You and Hope You Die" is total class. They do the slow dirges and throw in some faster more straight up metal stuff too.