what great 2d shooters am i missing?

Xonatron · Post by **Xonatron** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:01 pm

i've learned a lot from these boards over the past few months, and one thing i've learned is there's a lot of shooters out there i have never played, some seem like fan favorites.

here's a list of my favorite 2d shooters, let me know what games most stand out that i'm missing:

- gaiares (genesis)
- thunder force 2/3/4 (genesis)
- thunder force 5 (ps1)
- raiden I and II (arcade)
- task force harrier (arcade)
- r-type I/II/III (arcade, snes)
- super r-type (snes)
- r-type delta (ps1)
- gradius I/II (NES)
- lifeforce (NSE)
- gradius III (SNES)
EDIT:
- ikaruga (xbox, gamecube)
- einhander (ps1)
- duality: zf

games i want to play:

- raiden dx (arcade)
- raiden fighers jet series (arcade)
- some bullet hell shooter to see what they are all about

Matsunaga · Post by **Matsunaga** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:19 pm

Dodonpachi.

nimitz · Post by **nimitz** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:42 pm

Matsunaga wrote:Dodonpachi.

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:06 pm

ESPGaluda (Arcade / NTSC-J PS2) http://www.world-of-arcades.net/Cave/Es ... galuda.htm
Twin Cobra (Arcade) http://www.mameworld.net/maws/romset/twincobr
Dragon Blaze (Arcade / PS2) http://www.mameworld.net/maws/romset/dragnblz

Emph

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:10 pm

nimitz wrote:
Matsunaga wrote:Dodonpachi.

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:23 pm

I'd expand on the OBVIOUS Dodonpachi to "all cave games"

dnbiola · Post by **dnbiola** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:31 pm

emphatic wrote: Twin Cobra (Arcade) http://www.mameworld.net/maws/romset/twincobra

Emph

Is the Genesis Twin Cobra any good?

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:47 pm

Well, my friend, you have come to the right place for recommendations. We love to do that here.

In terms of Bullet Hell games, you want to go with Cave. Recommended games would be:

DoDonPachi- MAME and Japanese PS1(also on Japanese Saturn, but it's a bad version)
ESP Ra.De.- MAME
Guwange- MAME

Non bullet hell games:

Gradius V- PS2
Radiant Silvergun- Japanese Saturn(obscenely expensive, but still good stuff)
Galactic Attack- Saturn(also known as Gun Lock on MAME)
G Darius- PS1
Gradius Gaiden- Japanese PS1, PSP
Battle Garegga- MAME, Japanese Saturn
Soukyugurentai- Japanese Saturn
R-Type Delta- PS1

There's plenty more, but those are my favorites.

ESP Galuda for the Japanese PS2 is a good choice too. However, you can really play a lot of great games for free on MAME. Give it a look.

s/m

Xonatron · Post by **Xonatron** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:50 pm

SFKhoa wrote:
nimitz wrote:
Matsunaga wrote:Dodonpachi.

Sounds like it's the first one I should check out. I have youtubed it before. Best way to play, MAME?

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:52 pm

Yeah. The PS1 version is great, but it's like 80 to 100 bucks.

s/m

Observer · Post by **Observer** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:04 am

THUNDER DRAGON II. (how can we forget of this one? =P)

That or Darius Gaiden. Saturn version is amazing and probably one of the cheapest you can find (plus it has a special autofire function that will make your life easier compared to the arcade version you can play with MAME). Same deal with Ray Force/Layer Section/Gunlock. Oh, and the discs contain redbook audio so you are pretty much getting 2 discs in 1.

orange · Post by **orange** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:04 am

garegga is the only game you need

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:32 am

Cyvern
Gigawing
Strikers 1999
Dragon Blaze
Exed Exes / Savage Bees

TLB · Post by **TLB** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:44 am

SFKhoa wrote:
nimitz wrote:
Matsunaga wrote:Dodonpachi.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:50 am

m3tall1ca wrote:
SFKhoa wrote:
nimitz wrote:

Also, Battle Garegga, Strikers 1945 II, Galactic Attack (aka Rayforce aka Layer Section aka Gunlock was it?), Soukyugurentai, Game Tengoku, Batsugun, Mars Matrix, Ikaruga, Cotton 2, any Parodius game, Twinkle Star Sprites, ESPgaluda.

Actually... Where's the voting thread for the top 25 shooters of all time? I could just copy/paste my list =P

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:42 am

dnbiola wrote:
emphatic wrote: Twin Cobra (Arcade) http://www.mameworld.net/maws/romset/twincobra

Emph
Is the Genesis Twin Cobra any good?

Yes.

Is it the arcade? Not quite, but unless you're a Nick Rox "OMG THE SHADOWS AREN'T BLUE!"-type anal gamer, you'll enjoy playing it. It's a good game, and has a different feel from the arcade version.

As for more recommendations...

-Genesis-

Steel Empire
Whip Rush
Gley Lancer
Eliminate Down
Verytex
Hellfire
M.U.S.H.A.
Bio-Hazard Battle
Elemental Master
Fire Shark
Wings of Wor
Granada
Phelios
Sol-Deace
Sub Terrania
Super Fantasy Zone
Twin Hawk
Zero Wing
Viewpoint
Sagaia

-Saturn-

Hyper Duel
Kyukyoku Tiger II Plus
Darius II
Capcom Generation 1
Blast Wind
Radiant Silvergun
Strikers 1945
Thunder Force V (it looks better than the PS1 version... yes, seriously)
DoDonPachi
Battle Garegga
Thunder Force Gold Pack 1
Thunder Force Gold Pack 2
Soukyugurentai
Arcade Gears: Image Fight & X-Multiply

-Dreamcast-

Mars Matrix
Giga Wing
Giga Wing 2
Gunbird 2
Under Defeat
Ikaruga
Border Down
Last Hope

-GBA-

Gradius Galaxies
Steel Empire
Iridion II

-PS2-

Raiden III
Silpheed: The Lost Planet
R-Type Final
Gradius V
Gradius III & IV
Capcom Classics Collection
Capcom Classics Collection 2
Taito Legends
Taito Legends 2
Sega Ages vol. 33: Fantasy Zone Complete Collection

-Neo-Geo-

Pulstar
Blazing Star
Last Resort
Andro Dunos (shut up, I liked it

)

-PC Engine-

Rayxanber II
Rayxanber III
Super Darius
Super Darius II
Gate of Thunder
Spriggan
Spriggan Mark 2 (turn off the in-stage cinema stuff)

-Sega CD-

Silpheed
Sol-Feace
Android Assault
Robo Aleste

-SNES-

R-Type: The Third Lightning
Axelay
Super R-Type (lots of slowdown though)

-Master System-

Sagaia
Power Strike
Power Strike II
R-Type

-PS1-

Raiden DX
The Raiden Project
R-Types
X2 (Japanese version)
Gradius Gaiden

-Arcade-

Darius

gundamalpha · Post by **gundamalpha** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:02 am

orange wrote:garegga is the only game you need

Danbo · Post by **Danbo** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:55 am

Go play mars matrix.

ForceDevice · Post by **ForceDevice** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:26 am

Arvandor wrote:
m3tall1ca wrote:
SFKhoa wrote:

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:01 am

ForceDevice wrote:
Arvandor wrote:
m3tall1ca wrote:

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:14 am

Cave are awesome and all, but games like Strikers 1999 and Armed Police Batrider are undeniably 'bullet hell', just in a different, equally awesome way. Try them, you might love them

spineshark · Post by **spineshark** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:44 am

Danbo Daxter wrote:Go play mars matrix.

!!

Giga Wing is also a lot of fun.

Armed Police Batrider

This game Ass Kicks. Together!

indstr · Post by **indstr** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:05 pm

Under Defeat!

Also, DODONPACHI (should be required playing for every american citizen, gamer or not)

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:35 pm

Ignore these Cave fanboys and go play Raiden Fighters Jet as soon as you possibly can.

Chi_Ryu · Post by **Chi_Ryu** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:53 pm

What, no lovin' for Capcom's Area 88/U.N. Squadron (released on the CPS, and later consoles/home computers)? I remember first playing it on the Amstrad CPC464...

Also, 飛翔鮫/Flying Shark/Sky Shark. Classic oldskool Toaplan goodness!

(Both are on MAME fwiw).

Xonatron · Post by **Xonatron** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:01 pm

MathU wrote:Ignore these Cave fanboys and go play Raiden Fighters Jet as soon as you possibly can.

Buying it THE DAY it's released on Xbox LIVE, whenever that is. All I have access to is a teaser video on there so far.

Post by **spadgy** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:03 pm

MathU wrote:go play Raiden Fighters Jet as soon as you possibly can.

Do just that.

I'll add Psyvariar 2 to the list - not too hard, but not too easy... And Progear if you please...

Other than that, much of what I love has been added already.

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:46 pm

Has anyone mentioned DoDonPachi yet?

I assume this is research for your game in the Development board. Shoot the Bullet isn't amazing in itself, but is condensed awesome as far as bullet patterns go.

dmzach · Post by **dmzach** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:25 pm

you should play battle garegga, the best game.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:46 pm

MX7 wrote:Cave are awesome and all, but games like Strikers 1999 and Armed Police Batrider are undeniably 'bullet hell', just in a different, equally awesome way. Try them, you might love them

Both Psikyo and Raizing/8ing's flavors of danmaku with Strikers 1999 (aka Strikers 1945 III in the USA) and Armed Police Batrider are nothing to sneeze at. Well worth giving them both a spin indeed. APB does include many numerous ways/options to play it, giving the player some fun and unique ways to play for score, chaining or just plain casual mindless shooting. Not to mention the cool ending stories for the myriad of characters to choose from. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~