Gunstar Super Heroes -- on GBA, screens inside!

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:31 am

UnscathedFlyingObject wrote:^ I think a lot of people's opinion about Axelay (that it's a 1/10 game) is totally wrong. I can't tell them they are outright wrong if they don't like it.

Good point. I'll just ignore posts I disagree with and try not to get into an argument. Still, I do try to post in a way not to offend anyone and a comment still got taken the wrong way. However, I'm offended by the suggestion that I'm baised towards the GBA or that I like it too much. Also, I was not purposely trying to put opinions down. I was only trying to show people that they were wrong (but not forcing the issue if they disagree with my points or trying to force someone to like something they dislike. I say some things over becuase I'm not only talking to one person and becuase some posts imply that some of what I said has been ignored or misinterperted.) and only for stuff I thought was wrong no matter what. The reason I want the mods to do something is becuase this happens all the time. I don't care if people agree or disagree, I just want those pissy comments, rude comebacks, and etc. to stop. Well anyway, I'm excited that a new Gunstar is coming to the GBA. I hope it turns out well.

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:11 am

We don't need mods to tell people who have opinions to not state them. I'm surprised this thread isn't already closed. it IS a discussion board. we're supposed to argue about this stuff.

and just like you were trying to prove to me that the GBA is better than i think, i was trying to prove to you that it's not that great. It's fair both ways. Neither of us are gonna change each other's mind, so we should drop it.

the music in zero mission still sounds like butt. and astro boy has too much slowdown. i'd rather play genesis games.

i hope gunstar super heroes comes out being really great

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:15 am

BUHA wrote:We don't need mods to tell people who have opinions to not state them. I'm surprised this thread isn't already closed. it IS a discussion board. we're supposed to argue about this stuff.

Again, this is what I'm taking about. I don't want the mods to tell people not to state opinions. I want arguments that stem from people making rude comments to stop. You took my comment the wrong way yet again! I just want people to stop being pissy and state their opinions without putting others down like you just did to me. I want this taking posts the wrong way and misunderstandings to stop. Nobody else would have found that comment I made about the headphones offensive and I'm pissed that nobody else seems to find your reply to it rude. Instead, I get accused of not respecting other's opinions when it's not just my opinion being put down. BTW, it's not just in topics about GBA where the rude and pissy comments occur, it's when people state their love for just about any system. The recent Saturn topic is a good example.

Also, I'm not trying to prove to you that the GBA is better than you think. I'm trying to clear up misconceptions and false info so people won't get mislead. BUHA, you are the only one who said that Metroid Zero Mission on GBA sounds like complete crap. IMO, it has one of the best and most atmospheric sountracks on GBA. I didn't find the sound in it very crackly and I think it's definatly of better quality than the sound in Gradius Galaxies. Not liking the soundtrack is one thing, but considering the quality of the soundtrack is that game, saying that it's complete crap (which implies that it's an amauter soundtrack) is way off base.

Now lets get back to the posts. BUHA, if you want me to shut up, you should keep quiet it too. If you replied to my comments about the headphones politely and didn't come back with more rude comments after I replied, I would have shut up a long time ago.

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:43 am

i dont want you to shut up. i LIKE these posts. they're fun! this is what message boards are all about. if everyone gets along it's no fun at all.

you didnt have to get all butthurt though. im just some nerdy kid from california that doesn't like the GBA. get over it.

and yes, i'm still mad about the "did you choose stereo?" and IF it was mono, it wouldnt sound any worse, just the same thing coming out of both channels. i dont see how that'd keep it from sounding crackly. it'd just have the same amount of crackly coming atcha from both directions!

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Tue May 10, 2005 1:47 pm

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3140199&did=1

They have videos now. If you go to the Downloads section there is another.

Stormowl · Post by **Stormowl** » Tue May 10, 2005 3:28 pm

upon viewing this my words have become incoherent babble...

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Tue May 10, 2005 4:10 pm

HOLY CRAP DID YOU SEE THOSE VIDEOS!? THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME!

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Tue May 10, 2005 8:15 pm

ahhhhhh! consider me frothing.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Tue May 10, 2005 9:22 pm

I see "must-have" written all over this.

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Wed May 11, 2005 12:09 am

I really wasn't going to keep my hopes up too much with this, but after seeng the videos it's impossible not to! it really looks like they're going to do this one right. The game looks really fast paced and action packed.

I recognized a lot of the music from the original, and while it doesn't sound the same, at least the nostalgia will be there and the orignal BGM is awesome, so i guess that's better than having new lame music.

Also, it looks like there are a lot more platforms and maybe better level design in this new one. some people complain about the lack of creativity in the first one, with some of the levels just being flat and a bunch of bad guys coming at you, which is understandable. maybe they'll fix that problem in the sequel.

either way, i can't wait!

Vexorg · Post by **Vexorg** » Wed May 11, 2005 12:23 am

captain ahar wrote: ahhhhhh! consider me frothing.

Careful, someone will see that and stick it on the box.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Wed May 11, 2005 12:43 am

My frothing demand for this game has gone through the roof!

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Wed May 11, 2005 1:56 am

Too bad I don't got a GBA.

People who love Treasure games, BUY IT WHEN IT COMES OUT!!

Post by **Ghegs** » Wed May 11, 2005 5:33 am

Sweet video. Big bonus points for having a huge nod towards Flicky, which I happen to adore.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Wed May 11, 2005 4:20 pm

Hmm.. it seems my GBA will be gettng some action soon.... at last!

Andi · Post by **Andi** » Wed May 11, 2005 6:21 pm

I've never been more impressed with how a game looks. Let's hope it delivers in terms of design.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Thu May 12, 2005 1:04 am

Finally, I've found something to nitpick about this game. The last boss in that video has a woman controlling it, but the woman doesn't move at all! It bothers me quite a bit. Let's hope Treasure fix that for the final version.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Thu May 12, 2005 1:11 am

Vexorg wrote:
captain ahar wrote: ahhhhhh! consider me frothing.
Careful, someone will see that and stick it on the box.

if they do... i better get payed.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Thu May 12, 2005 1:17 am

captain ahar wrote:
Vexorg wrote:
captain ahar wrote: ahhhhhh! consider me frothing.
Careful, someone will see that and stick it on the box.
if they do... i better get payed.

Cap'n, I'm sorry to tell you TWITCH has the copyright for "frothing next to a game case".

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Thu May 12, 2005 1:30 am

^excuse me UFO, but there is a big difference between frothing and drooling.

i was going to post pictures of rapid and drooling dogs, but realized how tasteless that would be... also, i couldn't find any.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Thu May 12, 2005 2:25 am

^ fixed

.

I meant frothing but for some reason I typed drooling.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Thu May 12, 2005 7:22 pm

well shit, i just can't have my own identity these days.

hey, at least no one else is man enough to be a pirate kitten with average shmups skills, right?

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Thu May 26, 2005 7:11 pm

Sqoon/Alex Vo fron TNL and Got Next has some excellent impressions of the first level play on Gunstar Super Heroes at E3:

http://got-next.com/features_read.php?id=149

He says despite the large sprites and not as many enemies, it is every bit as intense as the original and he fought a big orange boss which took up half the screen with exploitable arms and...no slowdown. Whoo.

Thanks to Frogacuda for finding this 7 minute video on 1up.com:

http://www.1up.com/do/download?cId=3139811

Excellent new pictures on Sega's new Jap official site for the game:

http://sega.jp/gba/gunstar/home.html

Time to get a GB player for my GC.

EDIT:

Sam Kennedy from 1up.com has comments on gameplay in a multi page feature. Also interesting comments from Maegawa, he said he wanted to wait until the entire original team was available again and not working on separate games before they attempted a proper sequel. Maegawa also gets extra points for saying he never wanted to simply port the first game.

First page:

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3140199&did=1

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:23 pm

I'm looking forward to Gunstar Super Heroes. Most of the E3 impressions I read of it were extremely positive. I can't wait to play it!

Ataru · Post by **Ataru** » Thu May 26, 2005 10:43 pm

At least here in the USA, Astro Boy's slowdown was not awful. It happened from time to time but it never got in the way of my enjoyment of the game (unlike, for example, R-Type Final, which I stopped playing thanks to it's slowdown problems).

The GBA is a stronger system, graphically, than the Genesis. It's absolutely absurd to cite the Sonic Advance games vs the original Sonic The Hedgehog, as they look better and hit speeds far greater than anything I encountered in the original games. The original games have better design, but Sonic Advance 2 is unbelievably fast moving and the graphics are extremely crisp.

As for Gunstar Super Heroes, I think the video at 1up.com speaks for itself. This is going to rule.

aesthetik · Post by **aesthetik** » Fri May 27, 2005 11:24 pm

I went to E3 this year and got to play the demo, and I can tell you for sure that there was NO slowdown whatsoever. Overall the game has the same flow / feeling as the original, and the only thing that might need some tightening up is the controls -- I felt they were a little too loose, with the character moving slightly after I stopped pressing left or right. Perhaps it was just me getting used to the SP control pad again (been using my DS to play GBA games)though....or the greasy GBA = ewww. Graphically, it was freakin' awesome with a lot of detail. I couldn't hear the sound, too much noise going on. And I thought it was an absolute blast, but extremely difficult. The demo started a short distance from a (mini?)boss, and it proceeded to kick my ass a great number of times before I got the hang of it. Anyways, this is definitely on my list for must-haves.

Oh, and Castlevania DS is drop-dead gorgeous!

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Fri May 27, 2005 11:46 pm

aesthetik wrote:I went to E3 this year and got to play the demo, and I can tell you for sure that there was NO slowdown whatsoever. Overall the game has the same flow / feeling as the original, and the only thing that might need some tightening up is the controls -- I felt they were a little too loose, with the character moving slightly after I stopped pressing left or right. Perhaps it was just me getting used to the SP control pad again (been using my DS to play GBA games)though....or the greasy GBA = ewww. Graphically, it was freakin' awesome with a lot of detail. I couldn't hear the sound, too much noise going on. And I thought it was an absolute blast, but extremely difficult. The demo started a short distance from a (mini?)boss, and it proceeded to kick my ass a great number of times before I got the hang of it. Anyways, this is definitely on my list for must-haves.

Oh, and Castlevania DS is drop-dead gorgeous!

Thanks for the excellent impressions, aesthetik. Did you also get a chance to play New SMB? That's another 2D game I am heavily anticipating. I went to E3 3 years ago, had a blast. Wish I coulda gone this year.

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Sat May 28, 2005 4:36 pm

yeah, judging by the videos i'd say that I'm not worried about the slowdown anymore. I can't wait!

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Sat May 28, 2005 7:18 pm

i had a dream the other night where i got to play this. i was really disappointed because it turned out Treasure had created these trailers as a mock up of what they "wanted" to do, and the final ended up much worse. slowdown, uglier than the pretty Gunstar Heroes, and a yawning bore to play.

the only reason i mention is, i checked the topic and couldn't remember for a minute if my memory was a dream. clear logic doesn't always win outright.

aesthetik · Post by **aesthetik** » Sun May 29, 2005 9:44 am

Thanks for the excellent impressions, aesthetik. Did you also get a chance to play New SMB? That's another 2D game I am heavily anticipating. I went to E3 3 years ago, had a blast. Wish I coulda gone this year.

Actually, I didn't see it there, but I kinda avoided a section that was absolutely crowded so I'm assuming it was there next to that Pokemon game.

I do, however, want to say that in addition to Castlevania, both Nanostray + Another Code (or Trace Memory, whatever they are calling it now) are very very cool. Another Code plays out like an updated King's Quest, with all controls and menus using the stylus. It's got a unique art style and I can tell it's defnitely gonna test my brain. I hope people support this one, even though I know a lot will be turned off by its pacing. And, as for Nanostray, it looked damn good and, like Gunstar, is pretty tough. Anyways, looks like my DS will finally be getting some good use in the upcoming months