Raiden Fans (Need Help)

seiatsu · Post by **seiatsu** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:06 am

OK, I need to make a choice. I like raiden up through DX. I Also like most cave games as well as raizing, etc. Having said that, which of the two raiden games on the 360 would you consider to be the better choice (taken the above into consideration)

I didn't play much raiden 3 as it just made me want to play other/better (imo) shooters. Maybe I didn't give it enough chance. And...for whatever reason, I never really did try the Fighters series (no particular reason) but I did like the demo on 360 but don't really know because it was very short / limited

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:08 am

I would recommend RFA since it's extremely well done and overflowing with options. If you're going to get a JP 360 you're going to get both anyway.

seiatsu · Post by **seiatsu** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:12 am

Why am I going to get both?

(I was thinking RFA too because of the options and the 3 in 1...although I'm sure one of the three will stand out as superior and that will be the one i end up playing most likely)

OmniGLH · Post by **OmniGLH** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:17 am

I would go with Raiden Fighters Aces.

You get 3 games in the package, plenty to keep you busy.

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:25 am

Just be aware that the Raiden Fighters series isn't really a whole lot like Raiden at all. If you're looking for the more classic Raiden feel, Raiden IV would be closer.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:45 am

Raiden Fighters Jet combines the best of Battle Gregga and Raiden DX plus some extremely ingenious scoring mechanics for one of the fastest, one of the most intense, and one of the most rewarding shooters ever. If you have a J360 it is a must buy. The included Superplay DVD is awesome.

OmniGLH · Post by **OmniGLH** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:52 am

Raiden Fighters Aces also allows you to map a button for instant restarts.

I have it mapped to the LB button on my arcade stick. I can easily reach it with my middle finger after a slight fuck up whilst playing RFJ.

When going for those 50million and 100million achievements that quick restart button will see alot of use!

MOSQUITO FIGHTER · Post by **MOSQUITO FIGHTER** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:57 am

I remember when they had Raiden Fighters Jet at the freaking Walmart here a few years ago. It was a sad day when they replaced it with that lame hunting game.

Raiden IV might be a better choice, since Raiden Fighters Jet is playable in Mame.

Diebythesword · Post by **Diebythesword** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:25 am

I haven't played IV yet

. But RFA is a good series, just get both

seiatsu · Post by **seiatsu** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:36 am

..oh, almost forgot. Which has better bosses

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:59 pm

I was also in the same boat trying to decide which Raiden title to get for the 360. I will get both eventually but I think I will opt for RFA first simply because its been out a bit longer and I would hate for it to go out of print.

MOSQUITO FIGHTER wrote:I remember when they had Raiden Fighters Jet at the freaking Walmart here a few years ago. It was a sad day when they replaced it with that lame hunting game.

Come on man, its friggin Walmart for chris sakes! That poor RFJ cab probably never saw any love.

daf911 · Post by **daf911** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:03 pm

Well i have both now, and i have to say i play RFA alot more then Raiden IV.
You have alot of options: screen settings, gamemodes, planes, etc.

lilmanjs · Post by **lilmanjs** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:51 am

the raiden fighters series is a must buy. I really like the second in the series a ton. never played raiden 3 and 4. are they worth getting?

MOSQUITO FIGHTER · Post by **MOSQUITO FIGHTER** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:40 am

Jon wrote:
MOSQUITO FIGHTER wrote:I remember when they had Raiden Fighters Jet at the freaking Walmart here a few years ago. It was a sad day when they replaced it with that lame hunting game.

Come on man, its friggin Walmart for chris sakes! That poor RFJ cab probably never saw any love.

So true, I was only person who played it. It’s such a good game too.

lilmanjs wrote:the raiden fighters series is a must buy. I really like the second in the series a ton. never played raiden 3 and 4. are they worth getting?

Raiden 3 is old style shooter. If you like the old Raiden games it might be interesting. Ship moves a bit too slow for me though. It's nothing like the Raiden Fighters games. I don't like it nearly as much as Raiden DX either.

Wanted to mention that I just downloaded the Raiden I soundtrack and it is full of awesome. Galbadia is a very cool website.

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:06 am

From reading the topic I thought you were gonna talk about the mental instability of Raiden fans

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:34 am

lilmanjs wrote:(...) never played raiden 3 and 4. are they worth getting?

Haven't played IV yet but III's worth getting for its Double Mode; "slow" ships aren't an issue in that mode and the ships have modern, small hitboxes... You don't have dozens of ships to choose from; you take two, and that's all you need...

Post by **spadgy** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:14 pm

j^aws wrote:
lilmanjs wrote:(...) never played raiden 3 and 4. are they worth getting?
Haven't played IV yet but III's worth getting for its Double Mode; "slow" ships aren't an issue in that mode and the ships have modern, small hitboxes... You don't have dozens of ships to choose from; you take two, and that's all you need...

Honestly - the second you try Raiden III Double Play you realise that's what the game is all about. I think since I started Double Play, I've tried one credit of Solo, and while I liked it a lot before, after Double Play it just feels redundant...

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:45 pm

^^ Good to hear you enjoying that mode...

Maybe Moss could've made that mode the default and released it with Solo Mode hidden; attached some Border Down type story, but with *two* remote controlled, pilot-less planes being simultaneously navigated from some hidden base, by an uber-loli-mecha-droid; then perhaps Double Mode would've got more attention... Of course only 3 people would still play it, but everyone else would know what the game was about! :/

Post by **spadgy** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:22 pm

Honestly J^aws, I really thought I'd be terrible, as I'm a mediocre-to-average shmup player, but I can't get enough.

I'm having a week off for STGT08, but I'll be back...

It's feels so awesome playing it in a public arcade too, even when you do badly...

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:07 pm

haha just tried double mode with the ps2 pad, man its hard, how emense would it be with a double joystick thingy like the virtua on sticks!?! someone needs to make me those for the ps2 to use with that, lots of money to first person who makes it!!!!!

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:25 pm

^^ You could try SRK and ask someone to build you a custom stick like that?

I personally got used to the dual analogue sticks from the DS2...

You'll hear people praise non-impact switching optical sticks, like Happ P360s, Sanwa Flashes and clones; or praising Suzo Inductives (induction) over microswitched sticks like Seimitsu LS-32s; but at the end of the day, analogue sticks have fast switching like the aforementioned non-impact types, but you lose tactile feedback (may or may not be important to you)...

Diebythesword · Post by **Diebythesword** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:46 pm

szycag wrote:From reading the topic I thought you were gonna talk about the mental instability of Raiden fans