LittleBigPlanet delayed due to words from the Qur'an......

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:32 pm

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/921/921009p1.html

Interesting. Ya' know, out of all of the games out there, LBP would be the last game I would think would have anything from the Qur'an in it. I would expect that in Assassin's Creed or a war game set the Middle East.

Still, I think they made the right decision, and agree with the poster who said that the developers should've done their research about the song first.

CStarFlare · Post by **CStarFlare** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:42 pm

Eight days before launch huh

What a cocktease

I'm kind of curious as to what exactly the song contained. "one of the background music tracks licensed from a record label for use in the game contains two expressions that can be found in the Qur'an" is vague as fuck.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:48 pm

CStarFlare wrote:Eight days before launch huh

there must be a few thousand copies just waiting for the skip

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:18 am

Well, on the one hand, I think they're being smart-the last thing a game that should sell very well needs is controversy.

But, overall, I think they are being way too pc about this-I doubt anyone would have noticed those verses. As people on IGN pointed out, GTAIV has plenty of offensive content, but that was never taken out, nor was the release date pushed back because of it.

And it's not as if these verses are in an M rated game with a bunch of sex and violence.

I do wonder, however, what verses they are?

grovsnus · Post by **grovsnus** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:47 am

I think it was "fight the unbelievers until they are subdued" and that thing about the trees telling them where the jews are hiding.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:58 am

right so its more offensive to jews then?

sorry being a middle class white english man I know little of religion other than church on sundays and Christmas is awesome for the presents

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:29 am

dave4shmups wrote:I do wonder, however, what verses they are?

The words are:

1- In the 18th second: "كل نفس ذائقة الموت" ("kollo nafsin tha'iqatol mawt", literally: 'Every soul shall have the taste of death').

2- Almost immediately after, in the 27th second: "كل من عليها فان" ("kollo man alaiha fan", literally: 'All that is on earth will perish').

I have way too many questions regarding this. Why were they there in the first place? Was it intentional, or just put in to be "stylish" with the developers being unaware of the lyrics? It's quite a dark thing to have in such a game. It would be almost the same as having subliminal messages in Bomberman.

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:35 am

What world at they at? I was lucky enough to get a pre-release copy (game is effing amazing btw...) and I want to see what all the fuss is about.

honorless · Post by **honorless** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:07 am

Elixir wrote:Why were they there in the first place?

I'm guessing that Mm assumed no one would find the lyrics offensive. The dude who wrote the song is Muslim, according to the internets.

There are a number of Muslims who have spoken negatively about the change, saying that they didn't mind the lyrics or viewed the exposure to the Qu'ran as a plus.

Honestly, I'd like to read some support for this move outside of the one forum who sent the mail....because right now it's seeming like a tiny minority got their panties in a twist and decided to speak for all Muslims.

Stormwatch · Post by **Stormwatch** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:59 am

Smart move. Removing the Qur'an from anything and anywhere is a good thing.

Hey, if they find a way to remove the damn thing from this planet, I swear I'll buy a PlayStation 3!

mufunyo · Post by **mufunyo** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:12 am

They've got my vote to ban any sort of religious texts or religious messages from all games because atheists might be offended

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:17 am

Remove crosses from all DRACURA tombstones.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:01 am

Looks like more time w/ Wipeout & Valkyria.

Octopod · Post by **Octopod** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:25 am

Stormwatch wrote:Smart move. Removing the Qur'an from anything and anywhere is a good thing.

Hey, if they find a way to remove the damn thing from this planet, I swear I'll buy a PlayStation 3!

Indeed. And sent the fucking bible and hebrew scriptures off with it. Abrahmic religion=a plague.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:39 am

neo-paganismmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:27 am

That means Spadgy and Rupert H now have some uber rare original versions of the game!

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:13 pm

What a bunch of shit. What the fuck is wrong with us that two phrases from the Qur'an is reason enough to delay the release of the game? Bunch of hypersensitive douchebags.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:23 pm

Skykid wrote:That means Spadgy and Rupert H now have some uber rare original versions of the game!

Trust you to mention that. So iI wanna know when its going to SKY ROCKET

lets watch . . .

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LittleBigPlanet-G ... 286.c0.m14

Stormwatch · Post by **Stormwatch** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:52 pm

Acid King wrote:What the fuck is wrong with us that two phrases from the Qur'an is reason enough to cause riots and destruction?

Fixed. Remember those danish cartoons?

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:11 pm

Lordstar wrote:
Skykid wrote:That means Spadgy and Rupert H now have some uber rare original versions of the game!

Trust you to mention that.

What's that supposed to mean?!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LittleBigPlanet-G ... 286.c0.m14

Ooh, shit - breaking release date on Ebay. Bad. I'll warrant that's NOT a journo, but some guy who's been lucky enough to blag a copy from someone.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:11 pm

I don't get what everyone's pissed about. Are PS3 owners that bored that they're annoyed about this delay because it might seem trivial to them? This game appeals to all ages and shouldn't have stuff like that in it in the first place. If I was in charge of somewhere like ESRB - which needs certification for a game to be released in the US - I would recall the game as well. But this should have been done sooner, so I'm glad I'm not in that position otherwise I'd be currently labeled as a slacker.

Seriously, by adding this, what were they thinking?

Motorherp · Post by **Motorherp** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:23 pm

I completely agree, and while they're at it they should rename the game to just "Planet" incase any dwarfs or giants get offended.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:50 pm

Acid King wrote:What a bunch of shit. What the fuck is wrong with us that two phrases from the Qur'an is reason enough to delay the release of the game? Bunch of hypersensitive douchebags.

Yeah, but those are pretty dark phrases from the Qur'an that are totally out of line with the whole theme of the game, anyway, as Elixir noted. The central theme of LBP isn't death and the end of the world.

And let's face it, the PS3 needs more must-own titles, and the last thing they need is controversy over such titles.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:18 pm

Motorherp wrote:I completely agree, and while they're at it they should rename the game to just "Planet" incase any dwarfs or giants get offended.

Dwarfs don't like to be called midgets...in today's politically correct world, they are referred to as "height challenged people". Having come across a few at my work at one time or another, I treat them with respect just like anyone else. ^_~

I can recall when Nintendo of America delayed it's NES release of Super Mario Bros. 3 game...originally it was supposed to come out in March of 1990. American retailers got word from NOA that the release had been delayed because of "so-called" production shortages. I paid upfront, my $5 bucks pre-order for SMB3 to ensure that I got a copy on day one of release back in March of 1990.

When SMB3 finally went on sale in April of 1990, it turned out that NOA had artifically halted the release of SMB3 to create more anticipated demand for it. There was no "production shortage" at all...NOA had plently of warehouse storage space and SMB3 carts ready for retail sale back in March of 1990. Smart move on NOA's part for pulling that "little" dirty stunt off successfully. Some former NOA employees have been known to retire wealthy (in the seven figure range) working for NOA back in the day...no shit. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:08 pm

http://www.true-gaming.net/boards/showt ... hp?t=16068

Hey Stormfront I think that might be one of your quotes at the top of the page.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:34 pm

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:
Motorherp wrote:I completely agree, and while they're at it they should rename the game to just "Planet" incase any dwarfs or giants get offended.
Dwarfs don't like to be called midgets...in today's politically correct world, they are referred to as "height challenged people". Having come across a few at my work at one time or another, I treat them with respect just like anyone else. ^_~

I can recall when Nintendo of America delayed it's NES release of Super Mario Bros. 3 game...originally it was supposed to come out in March of 1990. American retailers got word from NOA that the release had been delayed because of "so-called" production shortages. I paid upfront, my $5 bucks pre-order for SMB3 to ensure that I got a copy on day one of release back in March of 1990.

When SMB3 finally went on sale in April of 1990, it turned out that NOA had artifically halted the release of SMB3 to create more anticipated demand for it. There was no "production shortage" at all...NOA had plently of warehouse storage space and SMB3 carts ready for retail sale back in March of 1990. Smart move on NOA's part for pulling that "little" dirty stunt off successfully. Some former NOA employees have been known to retire wealthy (in the seven figure range) working for NOA back in the day...no shit. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Ha ha, Nintendo are STILL pulling that stunt! The fabriciation of shortages is one of their number one tactics, and nobody does it better.

Can't find a Wii Fit for love nor money? There you go.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:08 am

Skykid wrote:
PC Engine Fan X! wrote:
Motorherp wrote:I completely agree, and while they're at it they should rename the game to just "Planet" incase any dwarfs or giants get offended.
Dwarfs don't like to be called midgets...in today's politically correct world, they are referred to as "height challenged people". Having come across a few at my work at one time or another, I treat them with respect just like anyone else. ^_~

I can recall when Nintendo of America delayed it's NES release of Super Mario Bros. 3 game...originally it was supposed to come out in March of 1990. American retailers got word from NOA that the release had been delayed because of "so-called" production shortages. I paid upfront, my $5 bucks pre-order for SMB3 to ensure that I got a copy on day one of release back in March of 1990.

When SMB3 finally went on sale in April of 1990, it turned out that NOA had artifically halted the release of SMB3 to create more anticipated demand for it. There was no "production shortage" at all...NOA had plently of warehouse storage space and SMB3 carts ready for retail sale back in March of 1990. Smart move on NOA's part for pulling that "little" dirty stunt off successfully. Some former NOA employees have been known to retire wealthy (in the seven figure range) working for NOA back in the day...no shit. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Ha ha, Nintendo are STILL pulling that stunt! The fabriciation of shortages is one of their number one tactics, and nobody does it better.

Can't find a Wii Fit for love nor money? There you go.

You could call up a store and ask when the next shipment of the Wii Fit will be in. Then make the trip to the store when they finally arrive. That little insider tip works wonders for me. ^_~

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:15 am

I think they should've just required a patch that disabled the tracks in question.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:17 am

GaijinPunch wrote:I think they should've just required a patch that disabled the tracks in question.

it would still be there though. it being on the disc would pervert the minds of our children.

Hot coffee anyone?

kernow · Post by **kernow** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:28 am

There will be a patch on day one, unfortunately they've recalled the discs for 'people without an internet connection' (who are retarded enough to have bought a PS3 and a heavily online-centric game)

excellent.