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GaijinPunch wrote: I swapped that out for lunges this week and now my ass is killing me.
Haha, I know that feeling :wink: I always neglected my legs a bit since I hated doing squats so much. Lunges feel MUCH more comfortable to me, the movement seems more natural and it indeed seems to stimulate more muscles. I also always got a bad feeling in my joints from doing squats, but none at all from lunges. Right now it´s my absolute favourite excercise :)
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I've been weight training since the year dot, but I can never train my legs properly due to a dislocated knee with fracture on a rugby pitch age 14. Now the knee swells up when I train it hard or ski or whatever :? .

Was in very good shape from 1997-2001. A bunch of us arcade guys used to train together every week back then.

Now I only use a bench at home and an EZ bar.

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Joe was the only one on roids, not surprisingly from that pic :wink:

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Might I also suggest rock climbing? Fun as hell, and makes you crazy strong.
^I bet it does. All those fast bouldering moves must be like curling your whole bodyweight :shock: . Crazy stuff, I would get vertigo though....I think. I wouldn't like to freeze up in fear halfway up a sheer rockface.
Got a lot of respect for rock climbers.
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I just hit the gym after the bar and it was not very productive. I'm fucking tired though PEACE.
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Ex-Cyber wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:
But isn't jumping rope also bad for your joints?
Running supposedly is too, but I know people that do it every day. Your body just has to get used to it.
As far as I know, that philosophy doesn't really apply to joints, and runners are pretty-much a self-selected group of people who happen to have good joints (i.e. people with bad joints give up running pretty fast). I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though.
I did some research, and it seems that jumping rope doesn't hurt your joints if you do it properly. Wear good shoes, don't do it in rock hard surfaces, jump low and keep your knees slightly bent - all that should keep your knees safe.

I'm really considering starting this, as I need to improve my cardio badly and I just hate running. It looks awesome too.
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GaijinPunch wrote:
pullups
Last work out I did closed grip, palms facing in (concentration on lat). Now I'm doing semi wide grip (about shoulder width) palms facing out. I've found that I generally have to do these immediately after my workout or I fail around the last rep or two of each set. I know that's bad, but hey, pull ups are rough. IMHO, the benchmark of strength.
Don't "count" them. Just do each set to failure. Some days you'll crank out 30 in a set, some days you'll only do 20. Just make sure you are doing them to failure and you'll get the best results. Well, that's how it was for me.

Something else that works lats and stomach while doing pullups: Do a pullup and hold yourself up there. Now bring your knees up towards your chest and rock slightly backwards (not completely upside down, just enough to relieve the stress off your lower back) - now hold as long as you can.
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I'm really considering starting this,
You should note that jumping rope is not for the faint hearted. I find it similar to running, except now your arms hurt like fuck too.
Don't "count" them. Just do each set to failure. Some days you'll crank out 30 in a set, some days you'll only do 20. Just make sure you are doing them to failure and you'll get the best results. Well, that's how it was for me.
So instead of 3 sets of x, just do 1 set until failure? Or 3 sets until failure?
Something else that works lats and stomach while doing pullups: Do a pullup and hold yourself up there. Now bring your knees up towards your chest and rock slightly backwards
Yeah, I did these for a while. They're good. The pullup machine I'm using now has all kinds of grips (and a back to it -- it's also a cable machine) so not sure if I can pull this off. Might give it a shot.
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Do at least 3 sets to failure. Or 3 sets til you don't think you can pull yourself up again. Then after that, keep yourself pulled up and hold it for as long as you can, releasing if you lower down past 90 degrees.

After a day of climbing at the gym we used do about 5-15 sets of those. Your lats will scream a few days after you do this, the first few times you do this.
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landshark wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:
pullups
Last work out I did closed grip, palms facing in (concentration on lat). Now I'm doing semi wide grip (about shoulder width) palms facing out. I've found that I generally have to do these immediately after my workout or I fail around the last rep or two of each set. I know that's bad, but hey, pull ups are rough. IMHO, the benchmark of strength.
Don't "count" them. Just do each set to failure. Some days you'll crank out 30 in a set, some days you'll only do 20. Just make sure you are doing them to failure and you'll get the best results. Well, that's how it was for me.

Something else that works lats and stomach while doing pullups: Do a pullup and hold yourself up there. Now bring your knees up towards your chest and rock slightly backwards (not completely upside down, just enough to relieve the stress off your lower back) - now hold as long as you can.
:shock: You can do 20-30?? 30 is pretty amazing (to me). I can do like 10... 12 on a good day.
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100 pull-ups a day (4 sets of 25 or 5 sets of 20), and swim or use a stationary bike for 30 mins a day. Obviously the swimming is not at home, so I guess that doesn't count.
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I play DDR three times a week. Yes, yuk it up if you like, but if you're good at the game - meaning you can play on heavy - it's really quite the workout. From late 2005 to mid 2006 I lost about 45 lbs playing it. Really.

It's also been the only form of exercise that's been able to hold my interest, which is why it works well. Gotta stick with it to get results. :)
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I started out using the weight room at work. I'd lift weights for about a half hour (and I'd try to switch up my workout routine... One day I'd focus on upper body, then the next time I worked out I'd do lower, etc), then I'd ride the exercise bike for about a half hour at about as high a rate as I could stand.

Then my parent's got a rowing machine. For a while, I had been going down to their place, and rowing for about a half hour a day (about 8k according to the machine). But weight training fell to the wayside. I'd just do random pushups/situps at home from time to time.

Now I've been playing with fetch/keepaway with my sister's dog in the backyard before rowing (lots of jogging/sprinting), and can only manage to row for 15 minutes or so after that before getting totally exhausted. Oh, also, when I row, I try to row at a decent jogging pace for 2 minutes, then sprint my ass off for a minute, then repeat.

I recently picked up a set of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0GgRelhJto so I could get back into weight training. I'll have to look up some exercises though. I only know a half dozen exercises with them, and don't even know what some of those are called =P

One last question. If one is too wussy/overweight to do a pullup, how would you go about working your way up to being able to do one? I can do ONE chinup (palms in, shoulder-width apart), but I can't get anywhere at all on a pullup.[/url]
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i sometimes take a quick jog to the park, and go to the kids side and use the monkey bars for some free pull up sessions lol. none of my doorways can hold a pull up bar, i wish it can tho
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Just re-stressing how not-crappy Starting Strength is..
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Heart defect.

A surprisingly high number of young folks die from random organ failure; it seems like cause of death #10 at MyDeathSpace.

The older guy, so they say, died from pushing too hard and then going into a cold stop.
Also: BryanM, what's your opinion on not being fat in the ass? I do squats, but I'm fucking tall and lanky. Getting the 90 degree angle is pretty hard. I tried stiff legged dead lift, but I just don't "feel it". I swapped that out for lunges this week and now my ass is killing me.
Being slightly bent at the waist at the top of the squat is important; the bar is supposed to be on the top half of your shoulderblades, not the top of the shoulder or the spine. Balance will be way better; necessary to get below 90 degrees. I'm somewhat lanky myself, and I bend a little bit more than people in most example pics.

(Here is a sad story about the squat from my foolish youth. On a smith machine (the Devil, and a pointless invention), I would actually spend (waste) time squatting a little over half a ton. Since this was to a 90 degree bend and no lower, the only thing I was really accomplishing was maybe making my femurs denser. The sadistic thing was; I was doing 12-16 reps a set. Since I now train in sets of 4 to 6, that means the shitty routine I had actually should have called for more weight. More than half a ton. Don't try stuff anything like what I did, any newbies reading this. Read all of the FAQ I linked to before. :(

Don't be ashamed of using what you might think is "low" weight; the huge manhulks you see in there will actually respect you more if they see you spending your time wisely.)

Anyway, leg presses are the only thing you can realistically do to build ass muscle. So, The Squat, lunges or leg press machine are your only true options.

There are squeezing and spread machines that are supposed to work the gluteus medius and sartorius, and you can do goofy crap with cables... but they're a waste of time.

I'd encourage you to give the squat a serious chance though; use an empty bar to find the right form, then put some load on and go as low as you can go.

Someone doing sets of the squat correctly, with untrained legs, will end up wanting to crawl around on the floor with their arms for the first week. I've read the pain from training comes from the muscle pushing against blood vessels and nerves; thankfully (or not, since growth starts to taper off) that diminishes a lot after that first week.
One last question. If one is too wussy/overweight to do a pullup, how would you go about working your way up to being able to do one?
If you're overweight, losing weight would help the most.

There are cable pull down machines that simulate the motion. You could do 3 sets of 5 (with a weight you can handle 5 of, pulling the bar down to touch your chest) every other day, adding 5 pounds when you can do 13-14 reps correctly.

As counter intuitive as it seems, I should suggest bench pressing. The pullup is almost nothing else but your upper back, with a little bit of biceps thrown in.

It's just a very effective upper body exercise.
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Cheers for the heads up. Yeah, my "form" isn't so bad on squats (I've lifted my whole life on and off, and was an offensive tackle in high school) but I'm just finding my legs/joints ain't what they used to be.
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Ah sorry. Getting old sucks :/

I hate it when people cliche buzz words too.

The paradigm might shift one of these days, though..
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Heh, after reading up on that Starting Bodyweight thing, I feel kind of annoyed that I invested in the nice dumbells rather than a barbell, weights, powercage, etc. Wonder if I can make due with the dumbells, even though squats and deadlifts will be out of the question.
BrianM wrote:If you're overweight, losing weight would help the most.
I've been working on it slowly but surely. On the routine I mentioned above (and some very minor diet changes), I've lost about 42 pounds over the past year, and I'm still losing 2-4 lbs a month. Given my current lack of muscle mass, I could probably stand to drop all the way to 170 or so, despite my height (6' 2"). I last weighed in at 204lbs (I only weigh myself twice a month).
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and use the monkey bars for some free pull up sessions lol
The ass cocks that deal w/ city shit over here rooted up my monkey bars about a 9 months ago. That's where I did pull ups. Basically I got a gym membership after that. It's worked out better though.
100 pull-ups a day (4 sets of 25 or 5 sets of 20)
That's crazy. I went to failure today and could only do 12,10, then 9. So do the co-eds just pull their pants down and line up outside your office?
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themachinist wrote: :shock: You can do 20-30?? 30 is pretty amazing (to me). I can do like 10... 12 on a good day.
20-30 after 3 hours of climbing =) I never tried doing pullups (when I was in peak condition) while fresh to see how many I could really do. I doubt it'd be much more than 30. Maybe 40?

I've been recovering from a shoulder injury for a year now - so I haven't climbed in over a year, nor worked out for gains. But I can still do ~15 I think. Injuries are a bitch.
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