That One

Minzoku · Post by **Minzoku** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:40 pm

http://www.thatone08.com/

Momijitsuki · Post by **Momijitsuki** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:55 pm

Someone actually made a website over that?

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:55 pm

More to the point: Somebody actually said that?

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:58 pm

Someone actually made a website over that?

Haha that's awesome, are you kidding?

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:00 pm

Other favorite moment is when he called bin Laden a freedom fighter.

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:03 pm

Obama said it's time to stop hanging on to bullshit like "lipstick on a pig" and stop worrying about rhetoric. Fuck the "that one" thing. We're above that.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:19 pm

LOL! You I have no morals so I will put just about anything on a tee shirt

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:23 am

The handshake was better.

It's probably not racism, but everything he does makes it clear McCain just hates Obama so much. It's like Mr. Wilson and Dennis the Menace.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:39 am

szycag wrote:We're above that.

We are, but one of the candidates isn't; hence the relevance. ;)

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:52 am

Mortificator wrote:The handshake was better.

It's probably not racism, but everything he does makes it clear McCain just hates Obama so much. It's like Mr. Wilson and Dennis the Menace.

Glad I'm not the only one to notice this. There are times when McCain displays this, "I served my country! Who the hell does he think he is moving in on what I've earned?" attitude and mannerisms towards Obama.

Daedalus · Post by **Daedalus** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:44 am

The Coop wrote:Glad I'm not the only one to notice this. There are times when McCain displays this, "I served my country! Who the hell does he think he is moving in on what I've earned?" attitude and mannerisms towards Obama.

Early in the election, Wesley Clark (a former general) commented that while McCain's military service was admirable, he didn't serve in a leadership position and thus is no better prepared for the presidency than Obama.

Both Obama and McCain jumped on him for the way he said it. But I think he would have been a good resource for the Obama campaign to use...

And damn, that site went up fast.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:30 am

THAT ONE'S FRIEND TRIED TO KILL MY FAMILY

(whups fixed. bonus link on McCain inadvertently turning the U.S. into a West German-style police state to please anti-abortion activists)

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:37 am

I wouldn't vote for french fries.

And i wouldn't vote for a racist.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:49 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:THAT ONE'S FRIEND TRIED TO KILL MY FAMILY

(whups fixed. bonus link on McCain inadvertently turning the U.S. into a West German-style police state to please anti-abortion activists)

That never happened in Germany, and especially not in West Germany in the 1980s.

Linda Hirshman wrote:In the 1980s, when abortion was severely limited in then-West Germany, border guards sometimes required German women returning from foreign trips to undergo vaginal examinations to make sure that they hadn't illegally terminated a pregnancy while they were abroad. According to news stories and other accounts, the guards would stop young women and ask them about drugs, then look for evidence of abortion, such as sanitary pads or nightgowns, in their cars, and eventually force them to undergo a medical examination -- as West German law empowered them to do.

I can't believe that paper as reputable as the Wahington Post printed this. That hack seriously needs to get fired for this article. This is slander, plain and simple.

Wait, am I even allowed to say so? After all, Hirschman is Jewish, so if I criticize her then I'm an anti-semite, right? Damn!

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:48 pm

Yeah actually I was getting pretty confused about why it didn't say EAST Germany.

But anyway I think the U.S. is almost crazy enough to do that if RvW was overturned.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:59 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:Yeah actually I was getting pretty confused about why it didn't say EAST Germany.

Didn't happen there either. How I know this: East German people weren't allowed to go on foreign trips. One of the many blessings of socialism.

BryanM · Post by **BryanM** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:23 pm

I think all people have a right to privacy of their vagina.

Ceph wrote:One of the many blessings of socialism.

Yeah, like a country no one gets mugged in.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:35 am

Ceph wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:Yeah actually I was getting pretty confused about why it didn't say EAST Germany.
Didn't happen there either. How I know this: East German people weren't allowed to go on foreign trips. One of the many blessings of socialism.

Of course; I meant that usually people will automatically go to East Germany as OMG COMPLETELY HORRIBLE (it sort of was but that's besides the point). I find myself interested in finding out if this allegation is carried anywhere else.

honorless · Post by **honorless** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:26 am

Having missed the debates, seeing the videos on that site were...something. I didn't care about "that one" much, but the handshake thing was spectacularly rude. Wow.

BryanM wrote:I think all people have a right to privacy of their vagina

I like the way you think sir, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Daedalus · Post by **Daedalus** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:23 am

Ceph wrote: That never happened in Germany, and especially not in West Germany in the 1980s.
Linda Hirshman wrote:...
I can't believe that paper as reputable as the Wahington Post printed this. That hack seriously needs to get fired for this article. This is slander, plain and simple.

Wait, am I even allowed to say so? After all, Hirschman is Jewish, so if I criticize her then I'm an anti-semite, right? Damn!

Ceph, I always liked you, so I'm going to assume that you're just unaware of the facts and not trying to covertly push a pro-life agenda.

We tend to think of West Germany as the more progressive state, but this was not always the case. One particular exception was abortion, where laws banning the procedure were more prevalent and endured later than anti-abortion laws in the socialist East Germany.

Due to the heavy restrictions on abortion, many women traveled en masse to the Netherlands to get an abortion. However, the fact that it was performed out of state did not excuse the "crime" in the eyes of the West German government. And being well aware of this "tourism" to the Netherlands, border guards were instructed to interrogate young women returning to the country.

Again, I'm disappointed that such a brutal violation of women's human rights would be not only overlooked, but outright derided by someone as normally well-spoken as Ceph.

If you wish to know more, here is the abstract for one source: http://www.popline.org/docs/0920/067069.html. If you really require it, I'm sure Planned Parenthood can provide you with more.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:44 am

No, I have no "pro-life" (what a nice euphemism) agenda.

The procedure was for an official to stop a young person and query about drugs; later the woman would admit to an abortion, and be forced into a medical examination.

As the bolded part shows, women were only examined after admitting to an abortion, which was a criminal offense at the time.

Of course it was an invasion of privacy, which is why it was stopped and the law was changed, but you'll have to admit, that sounds quit different from

Linda Hirshman wrote:border guards sometimes required German women returning from foreign trips to undergo vaginal examinations to make sure that they hadn't illegally terminated a pregnancy

Octopod · Post by **Octopod** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:16 pm

honorless wrote:Having missed the debates, seeing the videos on that site were...something. I didn't care about "that one" much, but the handshake thing was spectacularly rude. Wow.

BryanM wrote:I think all people have a right to privacy of their vagina
I like the way you think sir, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Agreed.

Daedalus · Post by **Daedalus** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:01 am

the guards would stop young women and ask them about drugs, then look for evidence of abortion, such as sanitary pads or nightgowns, in their cars, and eventually force them to undergo a medical examination

The procedure was for an official to stop a young person and query about drugs; later the woman would admit to an abortion, and be forced into a medical examination.

Sounds pretty similar to me. Either way, taking a single sentence from an abstract and saying it doesn't match up with Hirshman's doesn't mean she was wrong - both are only brief summaries of what west german women suffered.

Lets go over this again. Border guards were trained to look out for young women, search them, interrogate them, and make them "confess" to abortion (without any legal representation). The events she stated did happen, and the omission of the forced confessions does not really cast West Germany in a worse light. Nor does it affect her argument, as the story is unrelated.

So I think it's going a bit... far, to take it and say:

Ceph wrote: That never happened in Germany, and especially not in West Germany in the 1980s.

I can't believe that paper as reputable as the Wahington Post printed this. That hack seriously needs to get fired for this article. This is slander, plain and simple.

Michaelm · Post by **Michaelm** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:24 am

Ceph wrote:One of the many blessings of socialism.

Come on Ceph.
You're much smarter then that !
It's one of the many blessings of a dictatorship.
It has nothing to do with socialism whatsoever and you know it.
This could easily be applied to stinking capitalist countries.
Like the US for instance where they have something very equal just the other way around.
And last time I checked the US wasn't considered a dictatorship.

Stinking capitalist pigs should simply be eradicated from this otherwise lovely place.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:30 pm

No no no no no no NO you're wrong. Authority always comes from a bureaucrat and never from a businessmen. Didn't you read Atlas Shrugged and 1984 in high school?

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:23 pm

Authority comes from stinky grown-ups.

Daedalus · Post by **Daedalus** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:52 pm

Michaelm wrote:Like the US for instance where they have something very equal just the other way around.
And last time I checked the US wasn't considered a dictatorship.

What are you talking about? If people in the US don't frequently travel to other countries, it probably has something to do with us being bordered by only two other countries or the US being 220 times the size of the Netherlands. Unlike that town you call a "country" we can't just take the train to a neighboring country.

Seriously though Michaelm, we love our country and our "evil capitalist" system. If you like socialism, that' fine, but your baseless anti-US attacks are getting old.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:54 pm

Not baseless (lol?), but pointless and usually off-topic. Michael likes patrolling the off topic forum for slights against socialism. I doubt he even likes shmups besides Tyrian or some shit. Maybe one day soon he'll find a way to make use of his convictions through a more productive form of activism. I hope.

BryanM · Post by **BryanM** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:45 am

~Omega 6 raises the homicide rate~

I also think some studies in rats say it increases the rate of homosexuality in offspring.

Wait.

Did Skeletor stub That One on a handshake? Youtube link pliz.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:48 am

BryanM wrote:~Omega 6 raises the homicide rate~

I also think some studies in rats say it increases the rate of homosexuality in offspring.

Wait.

Did Skeletor stub That One on a handshake? Youtube link pliz.

http://www.thatone08.com/

"Cold As Ice" flash video further down the page.